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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 2:50 am
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Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And
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In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which is
quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the refectory
area mentioned.)

Anyway, in trawling the various 'open' wifi websites, I don't remember
reading about educational institutions (I've visited many such places
with wifi, but they've always been closed networks.) I'd be interested
to hear if anyone else has been using open wifi in such places?

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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 3:17 am
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Thomas
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    > In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
    > posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
    > teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which is
    > quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
    > students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
    > and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
    > University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
    > access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
    > have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the refectory
    > area mentioned.)
    > Anyway, in trawling the various 'open' wifi websites, I don't remember
    > reading about educational institutions (I've visited many such places
    > with wifi, but they've always been closed networks.) I'd be interested
    > to hear if anyone else has been using open wifi in such places?

Southampton University does. Not only that, but with th SOWN project, pretty
much a radius of over a mile from the Uni has reception.
http://www.sown.org.uk
 
Old Jun 2nd 2005, 3:20 am
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Nitram
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:17:09 +0100, "Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
    >> posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
    >> teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which is
    >> quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
    >> students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
    >> and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
    >> University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
    >> access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
    >> have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the refectory
    >> area mentioned.)
    >> Anyway, in trawling the various 'open' wifi websites, I don't remember
    >> reading about educational institutions (I've visited many such places
    >> with wifi, but they've always been closed networks.) I'd be interested
    >> to hear if anyone else has been using open wifi in such places?
    >Southampton University does. Not only that, but with th SOWN project, pretty
    >much a radius of over a mile from the Uni has reception.
    >http://www.sown.org.uk

and in the Leiden area
http://www.wirelessleiden.nl/english/
 
Old Jun 2nd 2005, 3:32 am
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Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
    > > posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
    > > teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which is
    > > quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
    > > students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
    > > and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
    > > University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
    > > access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
    > > have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the refectory
    > > area mentioned.)
    > >
    > > Anyway, in trawling the various 'open' wifi websites, I don't remember
    > > reading about educational institutions (I've visited many such places
    > > with wifi, but they've always been closed networks.) I'd be interested
    > > to hear if anyone else has been using open wifi in such places?
    >
    > Southampton University does. Not only that, but with th SOWN project, pretty
    > much a radius of over a mile from the Uni has reception.

Wow. I wonder what companies like BT think of that! :)

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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 3:49 am
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    >> > In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
    >> > posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
    >> > teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which
    >> > is
    >> > quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
    >> > students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
    >> > and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
    >> > University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
    >> > access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
    >> > have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the
    >> > refectory
    >> > area mentioned.)
    >> >
    >> > Anyway, in trawling the various 'open' wifi websites, I don't remember
    >> > reading about educational institutions (I've visited many such places
    >> > with wifi, but they've always been closed networks.) I'd be interested
    >> > to hear if anyone else has been using open wifi in such places?
    >> Southampton University does. Not only that, but with th SOWN project,
    >> pretty
    >> much a radius of over a mile from the Uni has reception.
    > Wow. I wonder what companies like BT think of that! :)
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Take a look at http://consume.net , these projects are starting everywhere.
 
Old Jun 2nd 2005, 5:46 am
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BTW, beware of Wifi phishing and only connect to Wifi networks you are
familiar with.
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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 6:01 am
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Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:

    > BTW, beware of Wifi phishing and only connect to Wifi networks you are
    > familiar with.

Is this something you'd have to worry about if you have the proper
security on your OS?

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Old Jun 2nd 2005, 6:09 am
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    >> BTW, beware of Wifi phishing and only connect to Wifi networks you are
    >> familiar with.
    > Is this something you'd have to worry about if you have the proper
    > security on your OS?

Do a google for 'wifi evil twin'

Basically somebody sits in an airport lounge or such, with a laptop a wifi
card and a GPRS card. If this is the stronger network, windows will connect
to this by default.
The start page is made to look like T-Mobile of such like, and hey presto,
you have all their personal information.
For this reason it is advisable to connect manually to a network.
 
Old Jun 2nd 2005, 6:18 am
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:50:55 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:

    >In recent threads on free wifi in Europe, it seems that many other
    >posters have better luck than I do finding any. The college where I
    >teach in Manchester now offers free wifi in the refectory area (which is
    >quite large), and makes it obvious this is aimed at visitors as well as
    >students and staff. I wonder if this is an increasing trend in the UK,
    >and perhaps Europe as well? I can pick up the wifi from Manchester
    >University in my teaching room but it's not free- I was only able to
    >access it once I got a username and password from someone there! :) (We
    >have internet access obviously, but no wifi, other than in the refectory
    >area mentioned.)

IIRC Enschede does to over the entire campus.

Cheers,

Jim.
 
Old Jun 2nd 2005, 8:42 am
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Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> BTW, beware of Wifi phishing and only connect to Wifi networks you are
    > >> familiar with.
    > >
    > > Is this something you'd have to worry about if you have the proper
    > > security on your OS?
    > >
    >
    > Do a google for 'wifi evil twin'
    >
    > Basically somebody sits in an airport lounge or such, with a laptop a wifi
    > card and a GPRS card. If this is the stronger network, windows will connect
    > to this by default.
    > The start page is made to look like T-Mobile of such like, and hey presto,
    > you have all their personal information.
    > For this reason it is advisable to connect manually to a network.

I have a Mac though, and Firefox specifically avoids that kind of
behaviour. (It didn't at one point though.)

Interesting, nevertheless!

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