Europe's strange fascination with the US
Aug 13th 2003, 7:01 pm
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Following up to Hatunen
>>nobody is saying anybody is forcing anybody. Resentment of US culture
>>still happens though. You have taken reporting of attitudes to be my
>>opinions.
>Resentment certainly happens, but the point is that the attitude
>is misdirected.
Maybe yes, maybe no[2]. We (in UK) should not look at Hollywood and
say they are foisting c*** movies on us, we should be a bit more like
the French and remove control of the distribution chains from the US
companies so home grown culture (and film is "culture" in UK, like say
Woody allen in US) can get a look in. Resentment[1] should be directed
towards multinationals, often but not always US owned. Own own big
business brewers have waged war against our traditional beers in
favour of easy to keep lagers for many years.
It is very difficult to maintain cultural values in the face of big
advertising budgets aimed at naive impressionable youth. I take my hat
off to those who seem to be able to do it, thier cultures are stronger
than in UK where many seem happy to just roll over and follow what US
does instead of taking thier own direction. UK used to be big in pop
(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
are 10% of what they were.
2] To what extent are US people resented, US big business resented or
US government resented? I think the latter two.
1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
We seemed to have moved from fascination to resentment pretty quick in
this thread!
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>>nobody is saying anybody is forcing anybody. Resentment of US culture
>>still happens though. You have taken reporting of attitudes to be my
>>opinions.
>Resentment certainly happens, but the point is that the attitude
>is misdirected.
Maybe yes, maybe no[2]. We (in UK) should not look at Hollywood and
say they are foisting c*** movies on us, we should be a bit more like
the French and remove control of the distribution chains from the US
companies so home grown culture (and film is "culture" in UK, like say
Woody allen in US) can get a look in. Resentment[1] should be directed
towards multinationals, often but not always US owned. Own own big
business brewers have waged war against our traditional beers in
favour of easy to keep lagers for many years.
It is very difficult to maintain cultural values in the face of big
advertising budgets aimed at naive impressionable youth. I take my hat
off to those who seem to be able to do it, thier cultures are stronger
than in UK where many seem happy to just roll over and follow what US
does instead of taking thier own direction. UK used to be big in pop
(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
are 10% of what they were.
2] To what extent are US people resented, US big business resented or
US government resented? I think the latter two.
1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
We seemed to have moved from fascination to resentment pretty quick in
this thread!
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Aug 13th 2003, 11:50 pm
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Aug 14th 2003, 2:11 am
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:01:57 +0100, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
You seem to be saying that if the people of Fredonia like to
watch American movies and think Fredonian movies stink the answer
is to impose a restriction on the importation of American movies.
>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
Not at all.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
You seem to be saying that if the people of Fredonia like to
watch American movies and think Fredonian movies stink the answer
is to impose a restriction on the importation of American movies.
>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
Not at all.
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Aug 14th 2003, 2:01 pm
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>Little Chef is a crap copy of US style food, I hope it fails
>everywhere.
Finally, we agree
K
>Little Chef is a crap copy of US style food, I hope it fails
>everywhere.
Finally, we agree
K
Aug 14th 2003, 2:40 pm
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>Maybe yes, maybe no[2]. We (in UK) should not look at Hollywood and
>say they are foisting c*** movies on us, we should be a bit more like
>the French and remove control of the distribution chains from the US
>companies so home grown culture (and film is "culture" in UK, like say
>Woody allen in US) can get a look in.
I think I understand what you are saying, and I agree that the great
majority of American culture (movies, music, fast food franchises)
that europeans consume ( I don't buy the "foisted" bit) are crap. But
as a great man once said, "the masses are asses". But it sounds like
your suggesting governmental control of media. That's just not how
democracies work.
And just for the record, when I visit Europe, I wish I never, ever had
to see a Starbuck's or Burger King, or Nike T-shirt, etc.
>It is very difficult to maintain cultural values in the face of big
>advertising budgets aimed at naive impressionable youth. I take my hat
>off to those who seem to be able to do it, thier cultures are stronger
>than in UK where many seem happy to just roll over and follow what US
>does instead of taking thier own direction.
Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
threat to our culture? Is American culture at risk if our kids start
asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
don't think so.
> UK used to be big in pop
>(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
>are 10% of what they were.
That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
charts. What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
Only one innovative rap band, The Streets, have yet to emerge from the
UK. Coldplay have done very well here. But ever since Pop Idol, the
British charts seem to be constipated with tone-deaf, teenage karaoke
acts. Can't blame us Yanks for that!
>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
Not that I know of. Examples?
K
>Maybe yes, maybe no[2]. We (in UK) should not look at Hollywood and
>say they are foisting c*** movies on us, we should be a bit more like
>the French and remove control of the distribution chains from the US
>companies so home grown culture (and film is "culture" in UK, like say
>Woody allen in US) can get a look in.
I think I understand what you are saying, and I agree that the great
majority of American culture (movies, music, fast food franchises)
that europeans consume ( I don't buy the "foisted" bit) are crap. But
as a great man once said, "the masses are asses". But it sounds like
your suggesting governmental control of media. That's just not how
democracies work.
And just for the record, when I visit Europe, I wish I never, ever had
to see a Starbuck's or Burger King, or Nike T-shirt, etc.
>It is very difficult to maintain cultural values in the face of big
>advertising budgets aimed at naive impressionable youth. I take my hat
>off to those who seem to be able to do it, thier cultures are stronger
>than in UK where many seem happy to just roll over and follow what US
>does instead of taking thier own direction.
Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
threat to our culture? Is American culture at risk if our kids start
asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
don't think so.
> UK used to be big in pop
>(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
>are 10% of what they were.
That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
charts. What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
Only one innovative rap band, The Streets, have yet to emerge from the
UK. Coldplay have done very well here. But ever since Pop Idol, the
British charts seem to be constipated with tone-deaf, teenage karaoke
acts. Can't blame us Yanks for that!
>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
Not that I know of. Examples?
K
Aug 14th 2003, 5:58 pm
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Keeger <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
> charts. What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
> Only one innovative rap band, The Streets, have yet to emerge from the
> UK.
The Streets is just the one kid Mike Skinner.
But in any case there's a fair bit of good rap out of the UK. It just
doesn't make play in the US. Just like in film, the US is a lot more
parochial in music than most other places are. Try listening to internet
radio from Europe or Australia for a much more diverse take.
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> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
> charts. What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
> Only one innovative rap band, The Streets, have yet to emerge from the
> UK.
The Streets is just the one kid Mike Skinner.
But in any case there's a fair bit of good rap out of the UK. It just
doesn't make play in the US. Just like in film, the US is a lot more
parochial in music than most other places are. Try listening to internet
radio from Europe or Australia for a much more diverse take.
miguel
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Aug 14th 2003, 6:18 pm
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> UK used to be big in pop
>>(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
>>are 10% of what they were.
I remember it big in the 1980s, it'll come back.
Keeger <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
> charts.
That's probably the American perspective which missed out on some things?
Rap is now 20 years old, and it was in the charts then. In between we've
had punk and new wave (mainly British), synthpop (European and British),
grunge (American), dance&techno (continental European). So only one major
music trend in the last 20 years was American. Currently we're seeing rap
in the charts. OK, that's an American thing, but it's just a warmed up and
repackaged one from 20 years back. The music industry doesn't seem to have
new ideas, so they tried to sell something old to the teenagers who weren't
born when it was really new ... I wouldn't call that a "revolution".
> What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
I't alive and well AFAICT. What's good about the Brits is not only that
their music is more sophisticated, but their buying audience is too. If you
compare charts lists over the years between countries, you'll see a trend
that the British charts are faster, and that they tend to reflect better
tastes.
>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>
> You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>
>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>
> Not that I know of. Examples?
Freedom fries?
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>> UK used to be big in pop
>>(think of the Stones/Beatles etc era) but IIRC exports in this area
>>are 10% of what they were.
I remember it big in the 1980s, it'll come back.
Keeger <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
> charts.
That's probably the American perspective which missed out on some things?
Rap is now 20 years old, and it was in the charts then. In between we've
had punk and new wave (mainly British), synthpop (European and British),
grunge (American), dance&techno (continental European). So only one major
music trend in the last 20 years was American. Currently we're seeing rap
in the charts. OK, that's an American thing, but it's just a warmed up and
repackaged one from 20 years back. The music industry doesn't seem to have
new ideas, so they tried to sell something old to the teenagers who weren't
born when it was really new ... I wouldn't call that a "revolution".
> What's happened to UK pop music is beyond my comprehension.
I't alive and well AFAICT. What's good about the Brits is not only that
their music is more sophisticated, but their buying audience is too. If you
compare charts lists over the years between countries, you'll see a trend
that the British charts are faster, and that they tend to reflect better
tastes.
>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>
> You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>
>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>
> Not that I know of. Examples?
Freedom fries?
Regards
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Aug 14th 2003, 11:25 pm
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Following up to Keeger
>>Little Chef is a crap copy of US style food, I hope it fails
>>everywhere.
>Finally, we agree
not a tough place to find common ground! :-)
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>>Little Chef is a crap copy of US style food, I hope it fails
>>everywhere.
>Finally, we agree
not a tough place to find common ground! :-)
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Aug 14th 2003, 11:25 pm
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Following up to Hatunen
>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>You seem to be saying that if the people of Fredonia like to
>watch American movies and think Fredonian movies stink the answer
>is to impose a restriction on the importation of American movies.
The cinema/distribution chains are tied up by US film distributors, we
cant get Euro films onto other than art house privatly owned cinemas,
most of the time. The answer could be to have a BBC[1] for film.
1] If anybody thinks BBC=government google "Kelly WMD Hutton BBC" or
similar and change your mind.
>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>Not at all.
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>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>You seem to be saying that if the people of Fredonia like to
>watch American movies and think Fredonian movies stink the answer
>is to impose a restriction on the importation of American movies.
The cinema/distribution chains are tied up by US film distributors, we
cant get Euro films onto other than art house privatly owned cinemas,
most of the time. The answer could be to have a BBC[1] for film.
1] If anybody thinks BBC=government google "Kelly WMD Hutton BBC" or
similar and change your mind.
>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>Not at all.
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Aug 14th 2003, 11:53 pm
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Following up to Keeger
>Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
>programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
>are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
>threat to our culture?
As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
> Is American culture at risk if our kids start
>asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
>don't think so.
No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
and films were 75% French?
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>Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
>programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
>are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
>threat to our culture?
As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
> Is American culture at risk if our kids start
>asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
>don't think so.
No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
and films were 75% French?
--
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Aug 15th 2003, 12:43 am
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to Keeger
> >
> >Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
> >programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
> >are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
> >threat to our culture?
> As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
> > Is American culture at risk if our kids start
> >asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
> >don't think so.
> No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
> and films were 75% French?
Bonjour monsieur Reid
Keith
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to Keeger
> >
> >Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
> >programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
> >are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
> >threat to our culture?
> As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
> > Is American culture at risk if our kids start
> >asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
> >don't think so.
> No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
> and films were 75% French?
Bonjour monsieur Reid
Keith
Aug 15th 2003, 3:01 am
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:53:17 +0100, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Keeger
>>Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
>>programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
>>are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
>>threat to our culture?
>As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
>> Is American culture at risk if our kids start
>>asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
>>don't think so.
>No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>and films were 75% French?
Because the TV and films were things we wanted to see instead of
American productions?
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Keeger
>>Well, most of American television is now knock-offs of popular British
>>programs. American remakes of The Office, Coupling, and Father Ted
>>are all in the works. Should Americans boycott these shows, as a
>>threat to our culture?
>As they are US remakes, reflecting US values, why should they?
>> Is American culture at risk if our kids start
>>asking for "chips" or saying they've got things "sorted"? I certainly
>>don't think so.
>No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>and films were 75% French?
Because the TV and films were things we wanted to see instead of
American productions?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Aug 15th 2003, 9:50 am
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Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
>> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
>> charts.
>That's probably the American perspective which missed out on some things?
>Rap is now 20 years old, and it was in the charts then. In between we've
>had punk and new wave (mainly British), synthpop (European and British),
>grunge (American), dance&techno (continental European). So only one major
>music trend in the last 20 years was American. Currently we're seeing rap
>in the charts. OK, that's an American thing, but it's just a warmed up and
>repackaged one from 20 years back. The music industry doesn't seem to have
>new ideas, so they tried to sell something old to the teenagers who weren't
>born when it was really new ... I wouldn't call that a "revolution".
I agree that punk was a British revolution in pop music, but it
ocurred before rap. The music industry only had marketing ideas.
It's the artists who have had few new ideas. New ideas typically
aren't profitable, so this music isn't promoted. And Rap is the most
popular form of popular music today, it's a multi-billion dollar,
industry, and has brought minority point of view and culture into
white middle-class homes. If that's not a revolution, please tell me
what is.
>I't alive and well AFAICT.
It is in the UK. In America, it's on life-support. But when I was in
the UK a few months ago, I was appaled at the state of the radio.
It seemed to be mostly rap, and techno remakes of old classics.
Just awful.
>What's good about the Brits is not only that
>their music is more sophisticated, but their buying audience is too.
Well, that's a generalization. There are plenty of sophisticated
artist on both sides of the Atlantic.
>compare charts lists over the years between countries, you'll see a trend
>that the British charts are faster, and that they tend to reflect better
>tastes.
Taste is subjective. There's no such thing as better taste.
>>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>>
>> You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>>
>>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>>
>> Not that I know of. Examples?
>Freedom fries?
That was a couple of idiots. Don't judge a nation by a few.
K
>> That's because the last revolution in pop music was rap (like it or
>> not), and it came from America and still dominates the pop music
>> charts.
>That's probably the American perspective which missed out on some things?
>Rap is now 20 years old, and it was in the charts then. In between we've
>had punk and new wave (mainly British), synthpop (European and British),
>grunge (American), dance&techno (continental European). So only one major
>music trend in the last 20 years was American. Currently we're seeing rap
>in the charts. OK, that's an American thing, but it's just a warmed up and
>repackaged one from 20 years back. The music industry doesn't seem to have
>new ideas, so they tried to sell something old to the teenagers who weren't
>born when it was really new ... I wouldn't call that a "revolution".
I agree that punk was a British revolution in pop music, but it
ocurred before rap. The music industry only had marketing ideas.
It's the artists who have had few new ideas. New ideas typically
aren't profitable, so this music isn't promoted. And Rap is the most
popular form of popular music today, it's a multi-billion dollar,
industry, and has brought minority point of view and culture into
white middle-class homes. If that's not a revolution, please tell me
what is.
>I't alive and well AFAICT.
It is in the UK. In America, it's on life-support. But when I was in
the UK a few months ago, I was appaled at the state of the radio.
It seemed to be mostly rap, and techno remakes of old classics.
Just awful.
>What's good about the Brits is not only that
>their music is more sophisticated, but their buying audience is too.
Well, that's a generalization. There are plenty of sophisticated
artist on both sides of the Atlantic.
>compare charts lists over the years between countries, you'll see a trend
>that the British charts are faster, and that they tend to reflect better
>tastes.
Taste is subjective. There's no such thing as better taste.
>>>1] Europe should replace resentment with action where our cultures are
>>>threatened and get US influence out of it, whatever the WTO says!
>>
>> You mean like the English threat to the Welsh language?
>>
>>>I'm sure thats what US would do in the same situation?
>>
>> Not that I know of. Examples?
>Freedom fries?
That was a couple of idiots. Don't judge a nation by a few.
K
Aug 15th 2003, 9:52 am
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Re: Europe's strange fascination with the US
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>and films were 75% French?
Well, I'd say "sweet!" Maybe on my next trip to Montreal I can speak
better French. But I'm a bad example. More than half of my DVD's are
in a foreign language.
K
>No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>and films were 75% French?
Well, I'd say "sweet!" Maybe on my next trip to Montreal I can speak
better French. But I'm a bad example. More than half of my DVD's are
in a foreign language.
K
Aug 15th 2003, 10:15 am
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Re: Europe's strange fascination with the US
Following up to Keith Willshaw
>> No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>> and films were 75% French?
>Bonjour monsieur Reid
I'm off to le cinema then.
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>> No, cross fertilisation is a good thing. What would you say if your TV
>> and films were 75% French?
>Bonjour monsieur Reid
I'm off to le cinema then.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
UK walking "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
(The reply-to address is a spam trap)
Spain,cuisines and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
