Guess Oh

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:58:53 -0600, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:13:08 +0100, Marie Lewis
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    >><[email protected]> writes
    >>>>"Putting down" is not the aim: improving people's grammar is.
    >>>An attitude usually described as "supercilious".
    >>By you.
    >Well, of course. It certainly isn't up to you to decide.
    >I leave the definition from http://www.dictionary.com and leave
    >it for other readers to decide for tnemselves whether the term is
    >apt.

Of course it's apt. So is the rather less polite term "dipshit."
--
Nobody You Know

Hatunen

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:25:52 +0100, Marie Lewis
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    ><[email protected]> writes
    >>Polite people don't correct other's lapses. They may prefer to
    >>avoid that person in future, though.
    >I am very happy to be corrected on my grammar in either English or
    >French, provided that the correction is justified, of course..

You seem to be under the impression that lapses are a matter of
grammar only. There are more serious lapses in social
interactions.

************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Anonymouse

'cause ross perot financially supported the Greens siphoning off enough
of the left wing vote?

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

    >
    > Richard wrote:
    >
    >>I didn't vote for GW, and just for the record,not everyone in the US
    >>agrees with the idiot's policies.I read an article about a French and
    >>an American reporter attending a press conference,the French reporter
    >>turns to the American and asks"how did this guy get to be president?".
    >>I loved it...
    >
    >
    > There are quite a few Americans wondering the same thing!

--
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted,
and I won't be layed a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people,
and I require the same from them"
J.B. Books (John Wayne)

Anonymouse

and their bank accounts are safe in the channel islands, andorra, etc

Miguel Cruz wrote:

    > John Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"Mediteraneum Nostrum" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Can't this moron just accept a fact that it is not a dream of every
    >>>person in Europe to be a rich moron like Bush?
    >>Not because they have no chance to in socialist Europe?
    >
    >
    > No shortage of rich people in Europe.
    >
    > miguel

--
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted,
and I won't be layed a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people,
and I require the same from them"
J.B. Books (John Wayne)

Marie Lewis

In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
<[email protected]> writes
    >You seem to be under the impression that lapses are a matter of
    >grammar only. There are more serious lapses in social
    >interactions.

You may say that: I could not possibly comment.

--
Marie Lewis

Derek F

"Deep Flayed Mares" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
    > Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Deep Flayed Mares <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > After hearing some of the fruitcakes on Speakers Corner in Hyde Park,
I
    > > > believe that the UK must have the free-est speech in the world. You
can
    > > > say damn near anything there, and no-one cares. I can't imagine many
    > > > people get convicted for anything that they have said there.
    > >
    > > I wonder if there might be some sort of weird ancient legal exception
    > (like
    > > the ones for various guild members to graze their cattle in the Queen's
    > > bedroom or whatever).
    > The story I heard was that Speakers Corner used to be where they executed
    > people, and prior to their hanging they were allowed to speak their mind
    > (obviously without fear of further retribution) and thus could say
whatever
    > they like.
    > Sounds about right anyway...
    > ---
    > DFM
The mob used to hang on to every word ?
Derek.

Derek F

"Marie Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    > <[email protected]> writes
    > >You seem to be under the impression that lapses are a matter of
    > >grammar only. There are more serious lapses in social
    > >interactions.
    > You may say that: I could not possibly comment.
    > --
    > Marie Lewis
Does Marie have any original expressions of her own or are they all taken
from others. I would say that, Wouldn't I?
Derek.

Gregory Morrow

Derek F wrote:

    > "Marie Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    > > <[email protected]> writes
    > > >You seem to be under the impression that lapses are a matter of
    > > >grammar only. There are more serious lapses in social
    > > >interactions.
    > >
    > > You may say that: I could not possibly comment.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Marie Lewis
    > Does Marie have any original expressions of her own or are they all taken
    > from others. I would say that, Wouldn't I?


Not only *would* you say, but you'd have a sporting chance of being
absolutely *correct*. ;-)

--
Best
Greg

Hatunen

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:12:58 +0100, Marie Lewis
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    ><[email protected]> writes
    >>You seem to be under the impression that lapses are a matter of
    >>grammar only. There are more serious lapses in social
    >>interactions.
    >You may say that: I could not possibly comment.

How refreshing.

************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Tom Bellhouse

"Yossarian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

(SNIP)
    > The French Quarter of New Orleans got very gentrified. So there aren't any
    > whorehouses in the vieux carre. Just a lot restaurants and bars. For that
    > you have to go to the westside of New Orleans where there are a lot of
Asian
    > women specialising in "massage or so I have been told.
    > Yossarian

New Orleans once had a legal red light district, roughly in the old Quarter,
but it was closed down by the Dep't of Navy during WWI. I knew an old
fellow who had frequented the "social clubs" of that time. His stories
were amazing. The places were like country clubs, men brought their wives
for fine dining and entertainment, and some places published their own
newspapers. Imagine: "Mr. Pierre Boudin and his lovely wife Porcine
attended the dance at Madame LaRoche's last Friday."

Things were different then.

Tom in GA

Ellie

Hatunen wrote:
    > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:04:58 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Magda <> wrote:
    >>>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>I'm sorry you don't feel able to accommodate the rather
    >>>>undemanding conventions of usenet society.
    >>>Sad society that gladly accepts bad grammar but becomes hysteric if the
    >>>line has 90 characters...
    >>Bad grammar habits are harder to fix than a setting in one's news reader
    >>preferences box.
    >
    >
    > Magda prefers being quixotic to being pleasant to her fellow
    > human beings.
    >
    > Polite people don't correct other's lapses. They may prefer to
    > avoid that person in future, though.

I wonder if this is simply another cultural difference. Here in the US
it is considered extremely rude to correct someone's grammar in public.
It's considered belittling and insulting. Perhaps it is more
acceptable in other cultures?


    >
    > ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
    > * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
    > * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:04:49 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Stop it, you'll make me cry.

Come on, Magda. We know you don't cry.

************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Magda

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:04:58 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda <> wrote:
... > The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
... >> I'm sorry you don't feel able to accommodate the rather
... >> undemanding conventions of usenet society.
... >
... > Sad society that gladly accepts bad grammar but becomes hysteric if the
... > line has 90 characters...
...
... Bad grammar habits are harder to fix than a setting in one's news reader
... preferences box.

Oh, how sad...

Magda

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:10:02 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (David Horne) arranged some electrons, so they
looked like this :

... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > So what ? Others can't be bothered into speaking good English !
...
... Yours isn't so fabulous either. But, that's not the point. Someone's
... lack of grammar and spelling doesn't force me to rewrap their posts when
... I follow-up. Indeed, unless the person posting has _very_ limited
... english, then only an idiot, or a jerk, couldn't figure out what most
... people are trying to say.
...
... > Let's wait and see what you will do when the next post with a
... > 140-character line appears... Pretend not to see it ?
...
... If I'm reading casually, and it's not a thread that interests me, I'll
... usually just skip it, actually. I don't usually follow up to someone
... _just_ to tell them about something like that. But, if I was following
... up to their post, I'd probably alert the poster to the problem-
... certainly with that kind of length. Most of the time, the poster will
... fix it, perhaps even thank you for helping them. IMO, only the most
... childish individual would insist that what they were doing was perfectly
... fine.

Stop it, you'll make me cry.

Keith Anderson

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:10:25 GMT, ellie
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hatunen wrote:
    >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:04:58 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Magda <> wrote:
    >>>>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>I'm sorry you don't feel able to accommodate the rather
    >>>>>undemanding conventions of usenet society.
    >>>>Sad society that gladly accepts bad grammar but becomes hysteric if the
    >>>>line has 90 characters...
    >>>Bad grammar habits are harder to fix than a setting in one's news reader
    >>>preferences box.
    >>
    >>
    >> Magda prefers being quixotic to being pleasant to her fellow
    >> human beings.
    >>
    >> Polite people don't correct other's lapses. They may prefer to
    >> avoid that person in future, though.
    >I wonder if this is simply another cultural difference. Here in the US
    >it is considered extremely rude to correct someone's grammar in public.
    > It's considered belittling and insulting. Perhaps it is more
    >acceptable in other cultures?
As far as I'm aware, correcting someone's grammar in public is not
acceptable in most countries I've been in - unless, of course, the
misuse of a word might land me in trouble or in an embarrassing
situation (this has happened!!!).

I correct people's grammar for a living, as I teach English to foreign
students in the UK. However, there always has to be a balance between
fluency and accuracy - and in some speaking exercises I won't
interrupt fluency to point out mistakes, although I'll point out those
which affect good communication after the exercise. Interrupting in
midstream tends to sap confidence. Sometimes I'll leave well alone,
particularly with relative beginners. If students are studying for
higher level exams, that's a different matter.

Basically, language is a tool for communication, and provided that
students can communicate well, can understand and be understood,
that's what's important.

I think it should be the same on newsgroups.

(Pains in the arse/ass, however, are fair game).