The Euro versus the $
Apr 21st 2003, 7:04 am
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Re: The Euro versus the Thai baht
"Fustanella" schreef in bericht
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> > Lennart, I think you just had your leg pulled.
> Ayup.
> Somewhat related: did that issue a while back with the 2-euro coin being
> metallurgically similar enough to a Thai baht ever get resolved?
> Last I heard, European vending machines were being retrofitted as it
> appears the Thai currency made it into the global registry of coin
> attributes first. The Euro being more widely used at the time folks were
> giving themselves discounts didn't seem to sway the parties involved.
I brought a couple of 10 baht coins from Thailand in February 2002 (just
after the euro had been introduced), tried them in at least 5 different
vending machines in Amsterdam, and found out that all machines spat the Thai
baht out again.
Sjoerd
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> > Lennart, I think you just had your leg pulled.
> Ayup.
> Somewhat related: did that issue a while back with the 2-euro coin being
> metallurgically similar enough to a Thai baht ever get resolved?
> Last I heard, European vending machines were being retrofitted as it
> appears the Thai currency made it into the global registry of coin
> attributes first. The Euro being more widely used at the time folks were
> giving themselves discounts didn't seem to sway the parties involved.
I brought a couple of 10 baht coins from Thailand in February 2002 (just
after the euro had been introduced), tried them in at least 5 different
vending machines in Amsterdam, and found out that all machines spat the Thai
baht out again.
Sjoerd
Apr 21st 2003, 7:44 pm
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Re: The Euro versus the $
sgwennodd "NLortscher" yn neges
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> Going to Ireland soon and need to
> figure if my expenses are going to more than I planned, i.e. if the Euro
is
> better than the dollar.
The Euro is much better than the US dollar. The notes are not all green, and
so its very easy to tell the different denominations apart. And there are
pretty stripes down them too.
hwyl!
geraint.
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> Going to Ireland soon and need to
> figure if my expenses are going to more than I planned, i.e. if the Euro
is
> better than the dollar.
The Euro is much better than the US dollar. The notes are not all green, and
so its very easy to tell the different denominations apart. And there are
pretty stripes down them too.
hwyl!
geraint.
Apr 21st 2003, 9:09 pm
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For a literal interpretation of the subject line above, see:
"There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
euro"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
"There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
euro"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
Apr 21st 2003, 9:14 pm
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Fustanella wrote in message news:...
> > Lennart, I think you just had your leg pulled.
>
> Ayup.
>
> Somewhat related: did that issue a while back with the 2-euro coin being
> metallurgically similar enough to a Thai baht ever get resolved?
>
> Last I heard, European vending machines were being retrofitted as it
> appears the Thai currency made it into the global registry of coin
> attributes first. The Euro being more widely used at the time folks were
> giving themselves discounts didn't seem to sway the parties involved.
Well, in fact these coins are metallurgically *very* different. The
2-euro coins contain nickel, for a start, and Thai 10-bath coins do
not. Since most vending machines do a simple magnetic test (you can
easily try it yourself), they will no easily confuse the two. It is
true that the two coins are quite similar is size (diameter and
thickness) and also reasonably close in weight. The magnetic test is
the most determining one though.
Erik Evrard
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> > Lennart, I think you just had your leg pulled.
>
> Ayup.
>
> Somewhat related: did that issue a while back with the 2-euro coin being
> metallurgically similar enough to a Thai baht ever get resolved?
>
> Last I heard, European vending machines were being retrofitted as it
> appears the Thai currency made it into the global registry of coin
> attributes first. The Euro being more widely used at the time folks were
> giving themselves discounts didn't seem to sway the parties involved.
Well, in fact these coins are metallurgically *very* different. The
2-euro coins contain nickel, for a start, and Thai 10-bath coins do
not. Since most vending machines do a simple magnetic test (you can
easily try it yourself), they will no easily confuse the two. It is
true that the two coins are quite similar is size (diameter and
thickness) and also reasonably close in weight. The magnetic test is
the most determining one though.
Erik Evrard
[email protected]
(replace the letters according to the aviation alphabet in the domain
name)
Apr 21st 2003, 11:14 pm
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> The Euro is much better than the US dollar. The notes are not all green, and
That's changing soon for larger-denomination US dollars - nice pastel
colours are on the way, which will somehow let the bills keep their
traditional shade as well. We'll see.
I found the varying sizes of euros and pound notes to be much more
intuitive, tho' I'm sure it gives higher-end vending-machine makers a
bit of a headache.
That's changing soon for larger-denomination US dollars - nice pastel
colours are on the way, which will somehow let the bills keep their
traditional shade as well. We'll see.
I found the varying sizes of euros and pound notes to be much more
intuitive, tho' I'm sure it gives higher-end vending-machine makers a
bit of a headache.
Apr 22nd 2003, 1:20 am
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Axqi Rqvst wrote in message
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> For a literal interpretation of the subject line above, see:
> "There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
> euro"
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
That's a very interesting article. Very left wing, but that's not surprising
considering the source.
Frankly, I can't see Britain going for the Euro for a while. Britain is
never in a hurry to change. Norway perhaps...
Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
Interesting times...
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DFM
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> For a literal interpretation of the subject line above, see:
> "There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
> euro"
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
That's a very interesting article. Very left wing, but that's not surprising
considering the source.
Frankly, I can't see Britain going for the Euro for a while. Britain is
never in a hurry to change. Norway perhaps...
Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
Interesting times...
---
DFM
Apr 22nd 2003, 2:33 am
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:00:46 +0100, "Deep Floyd Mars"
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>Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
>world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
>Interesting times...
"Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
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>Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
>world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
>Interesting times...
"Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 22nd 2003, 5:45 am
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Hey Arizona, California here...You have a nice state. I just came back from
getting drunk at Los Dos Molinos in Phoenix (saw it on the food network and
flew all the way out for the hottest Mexican food in the southern states).
At least in AZ Mexican food looks/smells/tastes like Mexican food. Here in
San Diego if it doesn't look like something Del "Disgusting" Taco sells then
it's not considered Mexican. bleh bleh bleh
Judy
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:00:46 +0100, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:
>Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
>world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
>Interesting times...
"Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
getting drunk at Los Dos Molinos in Phoenix (saw it on the food network and
flew all the way out for the hottest Mexican food in the southern states).
At least in AZ Mexican food looks/smells/tastes like Mexican food. Here in
San Diego if it doesn't look like something Del "Disgusting" Taco sells then
it's not considered Mexican. bleh bleh bleh
Judy
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:00:46 +0100, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:
>Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
>world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
>Interesting times...
"Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 22nd 2003, 5:59 am
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"Fustanella" wrote in message
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> > The Euro is much better than the US dollar. The notes are not all green,
and
After more thinking, I wonder why the euro was chosen to be close in value
to the US dollar.
In my lifetime the dollar has so slipped in buying power that the
smaller-value coins are essentially worthless. In my youth a dime (10
cents) was the normal city bus fare. Now it's well over a dollar. Other
examples are numberless.
If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland I think I would have set the
value of the euro such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
Perhaps a ratio of US$ 5 to one euro would have been appropriate as a
starting point.
... Maybe even US$ 10 to the euro.
All idle chatter since the die was cast years ago.
news:[email protected]...
> > The Euro is much better than the US dollar. The notes are not all green,
and
After more thinking, I wonder why the euro was chosen to be close in value
to the US dollar.
In my lifetime the dollar has so slipped in buying power that the
smaller-value coins are essentially worthless. In my youth a dime (10
cents) was the normal city bus fare. Now it's well over a dollar. Other
examples are numberless.
If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland I think I would have set the
value of the euro such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
Perhaps a ratio of US$ 5 to one euro would have been appropriate as a
starting point.
... Maybe even US$ 10 to the euro.
All idle chatter since the die was cast years ago.
Apr 22nd 2003, 9:59 am
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"geraint" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> The Euro is much better than the US dollar.
> The notes are not all green, and so its very
> easy to tell the different denominations apart.
In fact, the colors of the euro bills were deliberately chosen in
alternating hues, in order to facilitate recognition of the bills by color
alone for the visually impaired. The colors alternate between warm and
cool: the 5-euro note is simply gray, but then comes red (10), blue (20),
orange (50), green (100), yellow (200), and violet (500).
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> The Euro is much better than the US dollar.
> The notes are not all green, and so its very
> easy to tell the different denominations apart.
In fact, the colors of the euro bills were deliberately chosen in
alternating hues, in order to facilitate recognition of the bills by color
alone for the visually impaired. The colors alternate between warm and
cool: the 5-euro note is simply gray, but then comes red (10), blue (20),
orange (50), green (100), yellow (200), and violet (500).
Apr 22nd 2003, 10:02 am
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A very interesting and compelling hypothesis. It would be nice to have a
strong competitor for the dollar in the world. Two currencies that are
roughly balanced against each other would be much better than one. The euro
is the only real possiblity for a serious contender.
"Axqi Rqvst" a écrit dans le message de news:
BACAC541.700C%[email protected]...
> For a literal interpretation of the subject line above, see:
> "There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
> euro"
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
strong competitor for the dollar in the world. Two currencies that are
roughly balanced against each other would be much better than one. The euro
is the only real possiblity for a serious contender.
"Axqi Rqvst" a écrit dans le message de news:
BACAC541.700C%[email protected]...
> For a literal interpretation of the subject line above, see:
> "There is only one way to check American power and that is to support the
> euro"
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...940757,00.html
Apr 22nd 2003, 11:38 am
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The food you consider Mexican might not be at all. Different parts of
Mexico have different types of food, and in some cases it is very different
from "Tex-Mex" and its brethren.
"hotmail" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Hey Arizona, California here...You have a nice state. I just came back
from
> getting drunk at Los Dos Molinos in Phoenix (saw it on the food network
and
> flew all the way out for the hottest Mexican food in the southern states).
> At least in AZ Mexican food looks/smells/tastes like Mexican food. Here in
> San Diego if it doesn't look like something Del "Disgusting" Taco sells
then
> it's not considered Mexican. bleh bleh bleh
>
> Judy
> "Hatunen" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:00:46 +0100, "Deep Floyd Mars"
> wrote:
> >Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
> >world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
> >Interesting times...
> "Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Mexico have different types of food, and in some cases it is very different
from "Tex-Mex" and its brethren.
"hotmail" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> Hey Arizona, California here...You have a nice state. I just came back
from
> getting drunk at Los Dos Molinos in Phoenix (saw it on the food network
and
> flew all the way out for the hottest Mexican food in the southern states).
> At least in AZ Mexican food looks/smells/tastes like Mexican food. Here in
> San Diego if it doesn't look like something Del "Disgusting" Taco sells
then
> it's not considered Mexican. bleh bleh bleh
>
> Judy
> "Hatunen" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:00:46 +0100, "Deep Floyd Mars"
> wrote:
> >Either way, the collapse of the US dollar could be catastrophic for the
> >world economy, but it may ultimately be the only way to reign in the US.
> >Interesting times...
> "Reign"? Is that a Freudian slip?
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 22nd 2003, 11:40 am
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"R J Carpenter" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland
> I think I would have set the value of the euro
> such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
I agree. And people have been whining about the low value of the euro cent
since the currency first went into circulation, even though it is often
worth more than the lowest denominations of the national currencies it
replaced, and even though it is worth more than a U.S. cent (currently).
> All idle chatter since the die was cast years ago.
Yes. But you have to wonder why the currency would be divided into 100
parts if the individual parts didn't have enough value to ever be used by
themselves.
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> If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland
> I think I would have set the value of the euro
> such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
I agree. And people have been whining about the low value of the euro cent
since the currency first went into circulation, even though it is often
worth more than the lowest denominations of the national currencies it
replaced, and even though it is worth more than a U.S. cent (currently).
> All idle chatter since the die was cast years ago.
Yes. But you have to wonder why the currency would be divided into 100
parts if the individual parts didn't have enough value to ever be used by
themselves.
Apr 23rd 2003, 4:20 am
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:40:23 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
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>"R J Carpenter" a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland
>> I think I would have set the value of the euro
>> such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
>I agree. And people have been whining about the low value of the euro cent
>since the currency first went into circulation, even though it is often
>worth more than the lowest denominations of the national currencies it
>replaced, and even though it is worth more than a U.S. cent (currently).
The Finns, for one, don't even bother with one euro coins.
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"R J Carpenter" a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> If I were Beloved Dictator for Life of Euroland
>> I think I would have set the value of the euro
>> such that a 1 eurocent coin had appreciable value.
>I agree. And people have been whining about the low value of the euro cent
>since the currency first went into circulation, even though it is often
>worth more than the lowest denominations of the national currencies it
>replaced, and even though it is worth more than a U.S. cent (currently).
The Finns, for one, don't even bother with one euro coins.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 23rd 2003, 8:19 am
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:24:57 +0200, "Sjoerd"
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>> The Finns, for one, don't even bother with one euro coins.
>One euro *cent* coins. And two *cents* also, as far as I know.
Oops. Of course.
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wrote:
>"Hatunen" schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]...
>> The Finns, for one, don't even bother with one euro coins.
>One euro *cent* coins. And two *cents* also, as far as I know.
Oops. Of course.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
