EU ranks among the poorest of U.S. States
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:06 am
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Re: EU ranks among the poorest of U.S. States
Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
> ... hardly know better.
>What's poteen ?
One of Ireland's secret pleasures. Alcohol distilled from fermented
potatoes.
--
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>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
> ... hardly know better.
>What's poteen ?
One of Ireland's secret pleasures. Alcohol distilled from fermented
potatoes.
--
PB
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Jul 23rd 2004, 2:29 am
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Re: EU ranks among the poorest of U.S. States
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:06:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
... ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... >
... > ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
... > ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
... > ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
... > ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
... > ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
... > ... hardly know better.
... >
... >What's poteen ?
...
... One of Ireland's secret pleasures. Alcohol distilled from fermented
... potatoes.
Thank you, Tim and PB. It's going to my list. ;-)
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
... ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... >
... > ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
... > ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
... > ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
... > ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
... > ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
... > ... hardly know better.
... >
... >What's poteen ?
...
... One of Ireland's secret pleasures. Alcohol distilled from fermented
... potatoes.
Thank you, Tim and PB. It's going to my list. ;-)
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:41 am
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Magda extrapolated from data available...
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
> like this :
>
>
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels
> in the ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about
> drunkenly under the ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the
> day's ration of ancient, ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean
> microwaves instead of the ancestral ... kettle or the coals of the
> turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would ... hardly know
> better.
>
> What's poteen ?
>
>
Irish moonshine, my dear. The clear alky run from less than legal stills.
I seem to recall that at least one distiller actually markets clear "first
run" spirits to a customer base who favor the harsh oiliness of unaged
spirit.
There are some French eau d'vies which come close to it, including a marc
they used to make down along the Rhone (which could also be used to remove
road tar from cars and large warts from small children).
TMO
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
> like this :
>
>
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels
> in the ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about
> drunkenly under the ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the
> day's ration of ancient, ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean
> microwaves instead of the ancestral ... kettle or the coals of the
> turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would ... hardly know
> better.
>
> What's poteen ?
>
>
Irish moonshine, my dear. The clear alky run from less than legal stills.
I seem to recall that at least one distiller actually markets clear "first
run" spirits to a customer base who favor the harsh oiliness of unaged
spirit.
There are some French eau d'vies which come close to it, including a marc
they used to make down along the Rhone (which could also be used to remove
road tar from cars and large warts from small children).
TMO
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:45 am
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Re: EU ranks among the poorest of U.S. States
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:09:59 +0100, The Reids wrote:
> Following up to Mxsmanic
>
>>> have you tried cooking a meal from its ingredients in a
>>> microwave?
>>Some meals, yes. There's nothing particularly unusual about a microwave
>>as compared to other methods of cooking.
>
> Except it does not cook the outside more than the inside like
> other cooking methods
In some situations that can be a plus though.
Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
steaming. No juices lost.
> Following up to Mxsmanic
>
>>> have you tried cooking a meal from its ingredients in a
>>> microwave?
>>Some meals, yes. There's nothing particularly unusual about a microwave
>>as compared to other methods of cooking.
>
> Except it does not cook the outside more than the inside like
> other cooking methods
In some situations that can be a plus though.
Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
steaming. No juices lost.
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:58 am
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> Six European countries, 5 of them ahead of the USA, are in the top 10:
ok... so you're comparing a small subset of the EU (5 States) to all 50
US States...
why?
is it because you're unwilling to make a fair comparison?
ok... so you're comparing a small subset of the EU (5 States) to all 50
US States...
why?
is it because you're unwilling to make a fair comparison?
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:59 am
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The Reids extrapolated from data available...
> Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>
>> (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
>>so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
>>throughly - no runny yolks,
>
> I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
> runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
Evelyn is possessed of a sense of domestic paranoia concerning food
supplies, black helicopters and the ebil debbil gubmint collecting her most
intmate sekrits (or long ago affirs with sekrit agents).
I can assure you, that the state of foodstuffs here as in the France make
rare beef, runny eggs and raw oysters still highly popular. I hate to tell
Evelyn, but by most reports, the odds of salmonella are just as high in
eggs from chi-chi boutique organic eggerys, and most folks' healthy
constitutions will wade right through most encounters with only minor
discomfort or a few hours of the Aztec Quickstep/Green Plum Scours.
I will pass, however, on the newly filmed poultry processors' technique for
"Pummeled Pullet". I do on the other hand find much to applaud in a plate
of chicken livers lightly sauteed in butter, laden with chopped fresh
parsley and served over garlicky croutons, served with a modest Sancerre.
I've never met a microwave that could saute livers or toast croutons.
TMO
TMO
> Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>
>> (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
>>so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
>>throughly - no runny yolks,
>
> I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
> runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
Evelyn is possessed of a sense of domestic paranoia concerning food
supplies, black helicopters and the ebil debbil gubmint collecting her most
intmate sekrits (or long ago affirs with sekrit agents).
I can assure you, that the state of foodstuffs here as in the France make
rare beef, runny eggs and raw oysters still highly popular. I hate to tell
Evelyn, but by most reports, the odds of salmonella are just as high in
eggs from chi-chi boutique organic eggerys, and most folks' healthy
constitutions will wade right through most encounters with only minor
discomfort or a few hours of the Aztec Quickstep/Green Plum Scours.
I will pass, however, on the newly filmed poultry processors' technique for
"Pummeled Pullet". I do on the other hand find much to applaud in a plate
of chicken livers lightly sauteed in butter, laden with chopped fresh
parsley and served over garlicky croutons, served with a modest Sancerre.
I've never met a microwave that could saute livers or toast croutons.
TMO
TMO
Jul 23rd 2004, 2:59 am
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devil wrote:
>
> In some situations that can be a plus though.
>
> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
> steaming. No juices lost.
I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
very few minutes in the MW.
Sheila
>
> In some situations that can be a plus though.
>
> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
> steaming. No juices lost.
I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
very few minutes in the MW.
Sheila
Jul 23rd 2004, 3:19 am
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to Miguel Cruz
>> In a nutshell: cars evil (textbook evil: in the name of selfish laziness,
>> putting lives of innocents at risk).
> they are indeed weapons :-)
Oh yeah? Gibber gibber! People who don't drive don't deserve their freedom!
A car is a tool, not a transportation device! Over 2.5 million trips aren't
even taken every year just because of the comfort and convenience of knowing
there's one in the driveway ready to go! Gibber! The pedestrian is a slave!
My apologies to anyone who's not reading some of the longer threads running
at the moment.
miguel
--
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> Following up to Miguel Cruz
>> In a nutshell: cars evil (textbook evil: in the name of selfish laziness,
>> putting lives of innocents at risk).
> they are indeed weapons :-)
Oh yeah? Gibber gibber! People who don't drive don't deserve their freedom!
A car is a tool, not a transportation device! Over 2.5 million trips aren't
even taken every year just because of the comfort and convenience of knowing
there's one in the driveway ready to go! Gibber! The pedestrian is a slave!
My apologies to anyone who's not reading some of the longer threads running
at the moment.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Jul 23rd 2004, 3:23 am
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to Miguel Cruz
>> I've only been here about 6 weeks (and I've eaten out twice a day; with
>> brilliant meals available for under US$1 twenty-four hours a day from
>> dozens of places within a 10-minute walk,
> sounds terrible, why did you go? :-)
Nobody warned me that every time the phone company would send someone over
to try to install my DSL, they'd knock out the phone line for two days.
Though really that's my only complaint. It's the best place I've ever lived
(except possibly New York, but there I was a pauper).
miguel
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Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
> Following up to Miguel Cruz
>> I've only been here about 6 weeks (and I've eaten out twice a day; with
>> brilliant meals available for under US$1 twenty-four hours a day from
>> dozens of places within a 10-minute walk,
> sounds terrible, why did you go? :-)
Nobody warned me that every time the phone company would send someone over
to try to install my DSL, they'd knock out the phone line for two days.
Though really that's my only complaint. It's the best place I've ever lived
(except possibly New York, but there I was a pauper).
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Jul 23rd 2004, 3:28 am
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:59:56 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:
> devil wrote:
>>
>> In some situations that can be a plus though.
>>
>> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
>> steaming. No juices lost.
> I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
> very few minutes in the MW.
I use olive oil, not butter. And I add a few drops of lemon juice.
Sometimes thyme and a bay leave.
> devil wrote:
>>
>> In some situations that can be a plus though.
>>
>> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
>> steaming. No juices lost.
> I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
> very few minutes in the MW.
I use olive oil, not butter. And I add a few drops of lemon juice.
Sometimes thyme and a bay leave.
Jul 23rd 2004, 4:38 am
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Magda wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:09:57 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reids
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
> ...
> ... > (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
> ... >so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
> ... >throughly - no runny yolks,
> ...
> ... I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
> ... runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
>
> Don't know but I hope your kids inherited it !
I hope they did since the same, "highly efficient", farming practices
that have resulted in the explosion of salmonella has also managed to
produce antibiotic resistant strains.
Until someone manages to market radiated eggs I've gone off several
favorite recipes.
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:09:57 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reids
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
> ...
> ... > (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
> ... >so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
> ... >throughly - no runny yolks,
> ...
> ... I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
> ... runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
>
> Don't know but I hope your kids inherited it !
I hope they did since the same, "highly efficient", farming practices
that have resulted in the explosion of salmonella has also managed to
produce antibiotic resistant strains.
Until someone manages to market radiated eggs I've gone off several
favorite recipes.
Jul 23rd 2004, 4:45 am
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Magda wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
>
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
> ... hardly know better.
>
> What's poteen ?
>
Very raw spirits.
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:38:23 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, Olivers
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
>
> ... As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> ... wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> ... curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> ... wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> ... kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and would
> ... hardly know better.
>
> What's poteen ?
>
Very raw spirits.
Jul 23rd 2004, 9:47 am
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devil wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:59:56 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > devil wrote:
> >>
> >> In some situations that can be a plus though.
> >>
> >> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
> >> steaming. No juices lost.
> >>
> > I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
> ? very few minutes in the MW.
>
> I use olive oil, not butter. And I add a few drops of lemon juice.
> Sometimes thyme and a bay leave.
That's good, too. I sometimes use a tiny bit of sherry.
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:59:56 -0400, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > devil wrote:
> >>
> >> In some situations that can be a plus though.
> >>
> >> Cooking certain types of fish comes to mind. Can be a good alternative to
> >> steaming. No juices lost.
> >>
> > I use it for flounder. A little butter, some freshly ground pepper, and a
> ? very few minutes in the MW.
>
> I use olive oil, not butter. And I add a few drops of lemon juice.
> Sometimes thyme and a bay leave.
That's good, too. I sometimes use a tiny bit of sherry.
Jul 23rd 2004, 10:41 am
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I make "white sauce" and meat gravy in the microwave frequently - unlike
>>using a pan on top of the range, it doesn't burn, nor does it produce
>>lumps so readily. (Of course, you do it in short segments of time,
>>stirring it between times.)
>
> Gravy? I suspect that it would not brown enough for my liking -- or
> have you a method for browning it?
>
I use the "pan juices" from meat I've conventionally cooked (oven or
range-top), usually pouring a little water in the pan and heating it to
get all the "good" stuff. I then transfer the liquid to a micro-safe
bowl, add flour, and get lump free gravy. (I'm otherwise a fairly good
cook, but gravy always defeated me, until I learned to make it in a
microwave.)
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I make "white sauce" and meat gravy in the microwave frequently - unlike
>>using a pan on top of the range, it doesn't burn, nor does it produce
>>lumps so readily. (Of course, you do it in short segments of time,
>>stirring it between times.)
>
> Gravy? I suspect that it would not brown enough for my liking -- or
> have you a method for browning it?
>
I use the "pan juices" from meat I've conventionally cooked (oven or
range-top), usually pouring a little water in the pan and heating it to
get all the "good" stuff. I then transfer the liquid to a micro-safe
bowl, add flour, and get lump free gravy. (I'm otherwise a fairly good
cook, but gravy always defeated me, until I learned to make it in a
microwave.)
Jul 23rd 2004, 10:52 am
#135
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to Tim Challenger
>
>
>>Well, I'd fry a Rösti, but there you go.
>>Some things are better cooked other ways, but scrambled eggs are great from
>>a MW. Ever tried it?
>
>
> But would it be worth buying a device just for that? Someone
> suggested I should get one to reheat cups of coffee, I just
> looked at them :-)
>
>
>>>Microwaves still is mainly for people with little time.
>>Which is a fair number of people. Do you have a job and kids?
>
>
> I'm sure that is the strength of the microwave, heating ready
> meals for the busy, but remember we are supposed to be talking
> about the poor unemployed (I think) :-)
Really! I didn't get into the discussion until it turned to food! ;-)
But speaking of reheating, I find cooking stews, pot-roasts and soups
(by normal methods) much more feasible when cooking for one, with a
fair-sized freezer and a microwave. (I make my OWN "frozen dinners",
which give me well-balanced meals all week long - the time-consuming
cooking is done on weekends, when I have the time.)
> Following up to Tim Challenger
>
>
>>Well, I'd fry a Rösti, but there you go.
>>Some things are better cooked other ways, but scrambled eggs are great from
>>a MW. Ever tried it?
>
>
> But would it be worth buying a device just for that? Someone
> suggested I should get one to reheat cups of coffee, I just
> looked at them :-)
>
>
>>>Microwaves still is mainly for people with little time.
>>Which is a fair number of people. Do you have a job and kids?
>
>
> I'm sure that is the strength of the microwave, heating ready
> meals for the busy, but remember we are supposed to be talking
> about the poor unemployed (I think) :-)
Really! I didn't get into the discussion until it turned to food! ;-)
But speaking of reheating, I find cooking stews, pot-roasts and soups
(by normal methods) much more feasible when cooking for one, with a
fair-sized freezer and a microwave. (I make my OWN "frozen dinners",
which give me well-balanced meals all week long - the time-consuming
cooking is done on weekends, when I have the time.)
