EU ranks among the poorest of U.S. States
Jul 22nd 2004, 4:01 pm
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Microwaves make a good way to steam many things. Personally I like
grilled asparagus though.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Except for vegetables - NOTHING does asparagus as well as my microwave!
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>> You can¹t do great cuisine with microwave.
grilled asparagus though.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Except for vegetables - NOTHING does asparagus as well as my microwave!
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>> You can¹t do great cuisine with microwave.
Jul 22nd 2004, 4:15 pm
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:24:47 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> BB wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:44:20 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>
>>>Microwaves do a better job, in part because the cooking is so even, and
>>>in part because no oil or other stuff is required. Scrambled eggs from
>>>a microwave are very fluffy and delicious.
>>
>> ..with the added bonus of getting to watch a couple of eggs temporarily
>> swell to the size of a grapefruit!
>
> ....before they explode! (That's why the instructions tell you to
> pierce the yolks, before consigning them to the microwave - potatos are
> pretty "explosive", too, if you try to roast them in a microwave without
> piercing the skins.)
We're talking scrambled here. Never had any explode; they just fell down
to their normal size when the cooking stops. We probably did it for
entertainment value as much as anything (that was back when microwaves
were new & different).
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> BB wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:44:20 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>
>>>Microwaves do a better job, in part because the cooking is so even, and
>>>in part because no oil or other stuff is required. Scrambled eggs from
>>>a microwave are very fluffy and delicious.
>>
>> ..with the added bonus of getting to watch a couple of eggs temporarily
>> swell to the size of a grapefruit!
>
> ....before they explode! (That's why the instructions tell you to
> pierce the yolks, before consigning them to the microwave - potatos are
> pretty "explosive", too, if you try to roast them in a microwave without
> piercing the skins.)
We're talking scrambled here. Never had any explode; they just fell down
to their normal size when the cooking stops. We probably did it for
entertainment value as much as anything (that was back when microwaves
were new & different).
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Jul 22nd 2004, 5:15 pm
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Tim Kroesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tim Kroesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> $5 for a 20# propane refill...?!?
>>> He must have been siphoning..
>> I don't know much about propane as this is my first encounter with the
>> stuff. The tank is about 2 feet high and one foot in diameter. You bring
>> it down to the shop in the lobby and he switches you for a full one.
> Are your cooking tanks LP (Liquefied Propane) or LNG (Liquefied Natural
> Gas)? In either case you're in for a BIG surprise next refill!
I looked a little more closely by light of day. It's a 12kg tank labeled for
propane.
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> "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tim Kroesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> $5 for a 20# propane refill...?!?
>>> He must have been siphoning..
>> I don't know much about propane as this is my first encounter with the
>> stuff. The tank is about 2 feet high and one foot in diameter. You bring
>> it down to the shop in the lobby and he switches you for a full one.
> Are your cooking tanks LP (Liquefied Propane) or LNG (Liquefied Natural
> Gas)? In either case you're in for a BIG surprise next refill!
I looked a little more closely by light of day. It's a 12kg tank labeled for
propane.
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Jul 22nd 2004, 6:24 pm
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"Olivers" <[email protected]> wrote
> As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and
would
> hardly know better.
You've been spying on me again, haven't you?
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> As for potatoes, I'm sure that there are dark, windowless hovels in the
> wilds of Antrim where wizened crones, stumbling about drunkenly under the
> curse of several jars of poteen, shovel the day's ration of ancient,
> wrinkled 'taties into their Korean microwaves instead of the ancestral
> kettle or the coals of the turf fire, but, My God, they are drunk and
would
> hardly know better.
You've been spying on me again, haven't you?
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> what about the other 99.999999% of "great cuisine"?
>There is no particular conflict between microwave ovens and great
>cuisine. A microwave oven is a heating device, just like many other
>heating devices, and it can have its place any kitchen, no matter what
>type of cuisine that kitchen produces.
There is. A conventional cooker "browns" the outer surfaces.
Compare a jacket potato from the two methods and you will see. Or
you could try flambee-ing something with a microwave!
A microwave oven may have a small role in a great kitchen, but so
small as to be discountable.
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>> what about the other 99.999999% of "great cuisine"?
>There is no particular conflict between microwave ovens and great
>cuisine. A microwave oven is a heating device, just like many other
>heating devices, and it can have its place any kitchen, no matter what
>type of cuisine that kitchen produces.
There is. A conventional cooker "browns" the outer surfaces.
Compare a jacket potato from the two methods and you will see. Or
you could try flambee-ing something with a microwave!
A microwave oven may have a small role in a great kitchen, but so
small as to be discountable.
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>> Or D., you've never eaten scrambled eggs made in a microwave.
>I suspect the latter! (And one dish instead of three seems an extra
>bonus - one microwave safe bowl, instead of A) a bowl in which to beat
>the eggs, B) a pan in which to cook them and C) a plate on which to
>serve them.)
I beat them and cook them in the same pan and I serve them on a
plate whatever method I cook by!
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>> Or D., you've never eaten scrambled eggs made in a microwave.
>I suspect the latter! (And one dish instead of three seems an extra
>bonus - one microwave safe bowl, instead of A) a bowl in which to beat
>the eggs, B) a pan in which to cook them and C) a plate on which to
>serve them.)
I beat them and cook them in the same pan and I serve them on a
plate whatever method I cook by!
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Thomas Stalder
>It's funny. I read the subject and started to read this thread.
>I just can guess how far away has the discussion gone from the OP theme.
good thing too.
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>It's funny. I read the subject and started to read this thread.
>I just can guess how far away has the discussion gone from the OP theme.
good thing too.
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Tim Challenger
>Well, I'd fry a Rösti, but there you go.
>Some things are better cooked other ways, but scrambled eggs are great from
>a MW. Ever tried it?
But would it be worth buying a device just for that? Someone
suggested I should get one to reheat cups of coffee, I just
looked at them :-)
>> Microwaves still is mainly for people with little time.
>Which is a fair number of people. Do you have a job and kids?
I'm sure that is the strength of the microwave, heating ready
meals for the busy, but remember we are supposed to be talking
about the poor unemployed (I think) :-)
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>Well, I'd fry a Rösti, but there you go.
>Some things are better cooked other ways, but scrambled eggs are great from
>a MW. Ever tried it?
But would it be worth buying a device just for that? Someone
suggested I should get one to reheat cups of coffee, I just
looked at them :-)
>> Microwaves still is mainly for people with little time.
>Which is a fair number of people. Do you have a job and kids?
I'm sure that is the strength of the microwave, heating ready
meals for the busy, but remember we are supposed to be talking
about the poor unemployed (I think) :-)
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>>I make "white sauce" and meat gravy in the microwave frequently - unlike
>>using a pan on top of the range, it doesn't burn, nor does it produce
>>lumps so readily. (Of course, you do it in short segments of time,
>>stirring it between times.)
>Gravy? I suspect that it would not brown enough for my liking -- or
>have you a method for browning it?
I understand there is a powder for browning things in a microwave
(that is the limit of my research - or interest) in the subject!
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>>I make "white sauce" and meat gravy in the microwave frequently - unlike
>>using a pan on top of the range, it doesn't burn, nor does it produce
>>lumps so readily. (Of course, you do it in short segments of time,
>>stirring it between times.)
>Gravy? I suspect that it would not brown enough for my liking -- or
>have you a method for browning it?
I understand there is a powder for browning things in a microwave
(that is the limit of my research - or interest) in the subject!
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>Add a bit of butter, bacon
>>bits, and pepper, and they're quite heavenly.
>For once, Mixi and I are almost in agreement. Try some smoked salmon
>instead of the bacon bits.
smoked salmon is certainly superior to bacon IMHO, you need a
glass of champagne too, no better way to start the day.
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>Add a bit of butter, bacon
>>bits, and pepper, and they're quite heavenly.
>For once, Mixi and I are almost in agreement. Try some smoked salmon
>instead of the bacon bits.
smoked salmon is certainly superior to bacon IMHO, you need a
glass of champagne too, no better way to start the day.
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Earl Evleth
>"Very fluffy" is what I avoide I cooking,
>"runny" is closer to what I target.
You clearly understand scrambled eggs, i'll be round for
breakfast tomorrow :-)
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>"Very fluffy" is what I avoide I cooking,
>"runny" is closer to what I target.
You clearly understand scrambled eggs, i'll be round for
breakfast tomorrow :-)
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
> (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
>so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
>throughly - no runny yolks,
I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
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> (Of course, in the U.S., Salmonella is
>so endemic in the chicken industry that one is advised to cook eggs
>throughly - no runny yolks,
I'm sure there is salmonella in the UK too and ive been eating
runny eggs all my life, how did I survive?
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Miguel Cruz
>In a nutshell: cars evil (textbook evil: in the name of selfish laziness,
>putting lives of innocents at risk).
they are indeed weapons :-)
>Dishwasher: waste of energy compared to
>efficient hand-washing.
Hear hear
>Microwave: more expensive than gas.
>TV: Go to the
>library and try a book.
or post to usenet all day
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>In a nutshell: cars evil (textbook evil: in the name of selfish laziness,
>putting lives of innocents at risk).
they are indeed weapons :-)
>Dishwasher: waste of energy compared to
>efficient hand-washing.
Hear hear
>Microwave: more expensive than gas.
>TV: Go to the
>library and try a book.
or post to usenet all day
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>The reasons why many low-income people don't eat very good food are
>not principally to do with cost.
Its to do with lack of knowledge and the ability to aquire it,
probably the same resons they are low income in many cases.
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>The reasons why many low-income people don't eat very good food are
>not principally to do with cost.
Its to do with lack of knowledge and the ability to aquire it,
probably the same resons they are low income in many cases.
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Jul 22nd 2004, 10:09 pm
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> have you tried cooking a meal from its ingredients in a
>> microwave?
>Some meals, yes. There's nothing particularly unusual about a microwave
>as compared to other methods of cooking.
Except it does not cook the outside more than the inside like
other cooking methods
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>> have you tried cooking a meal from its ingredients in a
>> microwave?
>Some meals, yes. There's nothing particularly unusual about a microwave
>as compared to other methods of cooking.
Except it does not cook the outside more than the inside like
other cooking methods
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