Electrical adapter for London?
Dec 5th 2004, 7:18 pm
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Re: Electrical adapter for London?
"Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:06:03 -0500, ohaya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I am looking for an adapter for my digital camera's battery charger for
>>use in London. The charger is made to work in the U.S., but will work
>>with 240V so that's ok, but I'm confused about what kind of adapter I
>>need.
> This is a handy site to bookmark. Covers all the countries you might
> visit.
> http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
It is, however, wrong about France. The type shown is only used in the South
of the Country. The North uses the Shucko type, deign F. If you buy plugs or
adaptors in France, they will work in both types of socket.
Colin Bignell
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> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:06:03 -0500, ohaya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I am looking for an adapter for my digital camera's battery charger for
>>use in London. The charger is made to work in the U.S., but will work
>>with 240V so that's ok, but I'm confused about what kind of adapter I
>>need.
> This is a handy site to bookmark. Covers all the countries you might
> visit.
> http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
It is, however, wrong about France. The type shown is only used in the South
of the Country. The North uses the Shucko type, deign F. If you buy plugs or
adaptors in France, they will work in both types of socket.
Colin Bignell
Dec 5th 2004, 7:31 pm
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Re: Electrical adapter for London?
"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It is apparently the Radio Shack one you want (they do not show the other
> side
> but presumably that takes standard US plugs).
Yup. That's the one the OP needs.
> I have never been anywhere in the UK where the REI one would be needed.
True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
> You can easily get what you need in London (your hotel probably has a
> loaner).
> You get them at Tandy (UK Radio Shack) or any ironmongers (British for
> Hardware
> Store).
You can't get them at Tandy, they closed down many years ago. Your best bet
is probably Dixons which you can find on most high streets and airports.
Failing that, Boots. If you can't find Dixons or Boots then the opticians
will be your next stop ;-)
Where did you get the idea that ironmongers is British for hardware store?
Did you just make that up? If somebody here actually told you that I think
they were having a laugh with you! You try asking anyone in the UK where the
ironmongers is and see what reaction you get, lol.
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> It is apparently the Radio Shack one you want (they do not show the other
> side
> but presumably that takes standard US plugs).
Yup. That's the one the OP needs.
> I have never been anywhere in the UK where the REI one would be needed.
True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
> You can easily get what you need in London (your hotel probably has a
> loaner).
> You get them at Tandy (UK Radio Shack) or any ironmongers (British for
> Hardware
> Store).
You can't get them at Tandy, they closed down many years ago. Your best bet
is probably Dixons which you can find on most high streets and airports.
Failing that, Boots. If you can't find Dixons or Boots then the opticians
will be your next stop ;-)
Where did you get the idea that ironmongers is British for hardware store?
Did you just make that up? If somebody here actually told you that I think
they were having a laugh with you! You try asking anyone in the UK where the
ironmongers is and see what reaction you get, lol.
Dec 5th 2004, 9:05 pm
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> Where did you get the idea that ironmongers is British for hardware
> store? Did you just make that up? If somebody here actually told
> you that I think they were having a laugh with you! You try asking
> anyone in the UK where the ironmongers is and see what reaction you
> get, lol.
It's old-fashioned but not completely dead. It's the word I grew up
with (born in 1949, southern England), and I think the best kitchenware
shop in Glasgow still has "Crocket's The Ironmongers" on its signboard.
I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
The best-preserved old-fashioned ironmonger's I've seen is in
Dumfries - I think it's called Jardine's. Umpteen varieties of
galvanized buckets, improbably huge things made of cast iron,
and they supply hinges and screws to the National Trust for
restoration work, since they still stock types that went out of
common use decades ago.
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> store? Did you just make that up? If somebody here actually told
> you that I think they were having a laugh with you! You try asking
> anyone in the UK where the ironmongers is and see what reaction you
> get, lol.
It's old-fashioned but not completely dead. It's the word I grew up
with (born in 1949, southern England), and I think the best kitchenware
shop in Glasgow still has "Crocket's The Ironmongers" on its signboard.
I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
The best-preserved old-fashioned ironmonger's I've seen is in
Dumfries - I think it's called Jardine's. Umpteen varieties of
galvanized buckets, improbably huge things made of cast iron,
and they supply hinges and screws to the National Trust for
restoration work, since they still stock types that went out of
common use decades ago.
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Dec 5th 2004, 9:22 pm
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Re: Electrical adapter for London?
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
<nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything except
>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
allowed to use them?
> Most other appliances are likely to
>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
>when fitted in a bathroom.
I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
has a euro plug on it.
Jim.
<nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything except
>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
allowed to use them?
> Most other appliances are likely to
>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
>when fitted in a bathroom.
I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
has a euro plug on it.
Jim.
Dec 5th 2004, 9:34 pm
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Re: Electrical adapter for London?
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:31:54 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Where did you get the idea that ironmongers is British for hardware store?
I think I'd agree with him, there just simply many such shops about,
the ironmongers down my road certainly looks like a hardware store,
and calls itself an ironmongers, it's not the only one I know of
either. About the only chain store in this space, Robert Dyas
subtitles all its shops with ironmonger.
I think the big problem, is that there are so few hardware
stores/ironmongers anywhere in the country, unless you'd call the big
sheds hardware stores, which I wouldn't.
>You try asking anyone in the UK where the
>ironmongers is and see what reaction you get, lol.
I think he'd have just as much trouble with hardware store, which is
an americanism anyway.
Jim.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Where did you get the idea that ironmongers is British for hardware store?
I think I'd agree with him, there just simply many such shops about,
the ironmongers down my road certainly looks like a hardware store,
and calls itself an ironmongers, it's not the only one I know of
either. About the only chain store in this space, Robert Dyas
subtitles all its shops with ironmonger.
I think the big problem, is that there are so few hardware
stores/ironmongers anywhere in the country, unless you'd call the big
sheds hardware stores, which I wouldn't.
>You try asking anyone in the UK where the
>ironmongers is and see what reaction you get, lol.
I think he'd have just as much trouble with hardware store, which is
an americanism anyway.
Jim.
Dec 5th 2004, 9:52 pm
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"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I think he'd have just as much trouble with hardware store, which is
> an americanism anyway.
True. But around here (Newcastle) if you asked someone for the local
hardware store they would know what you mean and direct you to e.g. B&Q. If
you asked for the Ironmongers the most you would likely get is a blank
stare.
Given that I'm sure you will agree that the term is unreliable at best.
Not sure we do have an actual term here, I never say "I'm going to the
hardware store", it's always "I'm going to Homebase" etc..
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> I think he'd have just as much trouble with hardware store, which is
> an americanism anyway.
True. But around here (Newcastle) if you asked someone for the local
hardware store they would know what you mean and direct you to e.g. B&Q. If
you asked for the Ironmongers the most you would likely get is a blank
stare.
Given that I'm sure you will agree that the term is unreliable at best.
Not sure we do have an actual term here, I never say "I'm going to the
hardware store", it's always "I'm going to Homebase" etc..
Dec 5th 2004, 9:53 pm
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Re: Electrical adapter for London?
"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
>>except
>>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> allowed to use them?
>> Most other appliances are likely to
>>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
>>when fitted in a bathroom.
> I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
> has a euro plug on it.
They usually have "Shavers Only" written on it. Not to say they won't power
anything else but if you cause a problem with whatever you connect to it
(it's unlikely, but still) I'm sure they won't be too pleased with you.
All the hotels I've stayed in have had proper wall sockets anyway.
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> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
>>except
>>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> allowed to use them?
>> Most other appliances are likely to
>>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
>>when fitted in a bathroom.
> I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
> has a euro plug on it.
They usually have "Shavers Only" written on it. Not to say they won't power
anything else but if you cause a problem with whatever you connect to it
(it's unlikely, but still) I'm sure they won't be too pleased with you.
All the hotels I've stayed in have had proper wall sockets anyway.
Dec 5th 2004, 10:30 pm
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On 6 Dec 2004 10:05:07 GMT, bogus address wrote:
> I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
> But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
I've heard that occasionally, in the odd "trendy" bar. Sad but true.
--
Tim C.
> I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
> But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
I've heard that occasionally, in the odd "trendy" bar. Sad but true.
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Dec 5th 2004, 10:32 pm
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0600, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> Derek * <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Alternatively if you have any old piece of mains wire with a US style
>>> (Belden ?) receptacle on it, from some discarded appliance maybe, then
>>> you can buy a UK plug in London for less than GBP 1.00.
>> I normally take home type sockets with me, buy plugs and wire to the
>> sockets.
>And I usually travel with a shower head, about 20m of copper tubing, and my
>welding kit.
I usually travel by car. :-)
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wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> Derek * <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Alternatively if you have any old piece of mains wire with a US style
>>> (Belden ?) receptacle on it, from some discarded appliance maybe, then
>>> you can buy a UK plug in London for less than GBP 1.00.
>> I normally take home type sockets with me, buy plugs and wire to the
>> sockets.
>And I usually travel with a shower head, about 20m of copper tubing, and my
>welding kit.
I usually travel by car. :-)
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Dec 5th 2004, 11:51 pm
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The "shavers only" outlet (found in lots of hotels around the world)
is for low power objects only.
Most are transformer based so they will only supply a certain current.
Laptops more than likely will need more current.
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"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> > <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
> >
> >>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
> >>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
> >>except
> >>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> >
> > Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> > allowed to use them?
> >
> >> Most other appliances are likely to
> >>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
> >>when fitted in a bathroom.
> >
> > I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
> > has a euro plug on it.
> They usually have "Shavers Only" written on it. Not to say they won't
power
> anything else but if you cause a problem with whatever you connect to it
> (it's unlikely, but still) I'm sure they won't be too pleased with you.
> All the hotels I've stayed in have had proper wall sockets anyway.
is for low power objects only.
Most are transformer based so they will only supply a certain current.
Laptops more than likely will need more current.
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"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> > <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
> >
> >>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
> >>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
> >>except
> >>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> >
> > Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> > allowed to use them?
> >
> >> Most other appliances are likely to
> >>overload the isolating transformer that UK shaver sockets use for safety
> >>when fitted in a bathroom.
> >
> > I regularly use a shaver socket for charging my digital camera which
> > has a euro plug on it.
> They usually have "Shavers Only" written on it. Not to say they won't
power
> anything else but if you cause a problem with whatever you connect to it
> (it's unlikely, but still) I'm sure they won't be too pleased with you.
> All the hotels I've stayed in have had proper wall sockets anyway.
Dec 6th 2004, 1:02 am
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Mark Hewitt wrote:
> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>It is apparently the Radio Shack one you want (they do not show the other
>>side
>>but presumably that takes standard US plugs).
>
> Yup. That's the one the OP needs.
>
>>I have never been anywhere in the UK where the REI one would be needed.
>
> True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
> in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
> about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
> they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
I used one like it in Scotland in 1989, but they were probably old
houses. (The outlets in my parents' house in Massachusetts are really
old also.)
>>You can easily get what you need in London (your hotel probably has a
>>loaner).
Yes, and thank goodness, because most stores in the UK will be selling
adapters for the other way around.
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I like the dreams of the future better than
the history of the past. --Thomas Jefferson
> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>It is apparently the Radio Shack one you want (they do not show the other
>>side
>>but presumably that takes standard US plugs).
>
> Yup. That's the one the OP needs.
>
>>I have never been anywhere in the UK where the REI one would be needed.
>
> True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
> in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
> about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
> they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
I used one like it in Scotland in 1989, but they were probably old
houses. (The outlets in my parents' house in Massachusetts are really
old also.)
>>You can easily get what you need in London (your hotel probably has a
>>loaner).
Yes, and thank goodness, because most stores in the UK will be selling
adapters for the other way around.
--
Evelyn C. Leeper
http://www.geocities.com/evelynleeper
I like the dreams of the future better than
the history of the past. --Thomas Jefferson
Dec 6th 2004, 1:19 am
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"Evelyn C. Leeper" wrote:
>
> Mark Hewitt wrote:
> > True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
> > in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
> > about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
> > they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
>
> I used one like it in Scotland in 1989, but they were probably old
> houses. (The outlets in my parents' house in Massachusetts are really
> old also.)
>
Two or three years ago my uncle was redoing his kitchen, and gave me his
old fridge. I had to replace the plug on it, as it was the old round-pin
type. This was in the north of Scotland.
Sheila
>
> Mark Hewitt wrote:
> > True. UK 'certain areas' is just a blatant fabrication! There are no areas
> > in the UK which require that sort of plug! I think that is the type we used
> > about 50 years ago, but nowhere now.. Except for in hotel bathrooms where
> > they have such plugs but they are only supposed to be for shavers.
>
> I used one like it in Scotland in 1989, but they were probably old
> houses. (The outlets in my parents' house in Massachusetts are really
> old also.)
>
Two or three years ago my uncle was redoing his kitchen, and gave me his
old fridge. I had to replace the plug on it, as it was the old round-pin
type. This was in the north of Scotland.
Sheila
Dec 6th 2004, 3:05 am
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"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
>>except
>>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> allowed to use them?
If they are designed to be fitted in a bathroom, in the UK, within 2 metres*
of the bath, they will carry the words 'Shavers Only'. While they may be
capable of supplying other items, they are not designed to and you will be
liable for the cost of replacing the unit if you damage it by doing so.
* The specification of the zones within which particular types of electrical
standards must be met is more complicated than that, but within 2m is a
close enough approximation for most purposes.
Colin Bignell
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> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:15:26 -0000, "nightjar"
> <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
>>However, UK bathroom shaver sockets in hotels will be designed to accept
>>different shaver plugs from around the world and the use of anything
>>except
>>shavers in those sockets is prohibited.
> Really? surely not, toothbrushers, or even "ice picks" are surely
> allowed to use them?
If they are designed to be fitted in a bathroom, in the UK, within 2 metres*
of the bath, they will carry the words 'Shavers Only'. While they may be
capable of supplying other items, they are not designed to and you will be
liable for the cost of replacing the unit if you damage it by doing so.
* The specification of the zones within which particular types of electrical
standards must be met is more complicated than that, but within 2m is a
close enough approximation for most purposes.
Colin Bignell
Dec 6th 2004, 8:07 am
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Ironmongers, was Re: Electrical adapter for London?
I would have expected an ironmonger's shop to be what we call here in
the US a blacksmith shop (a shop where things are made of iron and steel
bar and rounds). What do they call a blacksmith shop in England?
--
wf.
bogus address wrote:
>
>
> It's old-fashioned but not completely dead. It's the word I grew up
> with (born in 1949, southern England), and I think the best kitchenware
> shop in Glasgow still has "Crocket's The Ironmongers" on its signboard.
>
> I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
> But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
>
> The best-preserved old-fashioned ironmonger's I've seen is in
> Dumfries - I think it's called Jardine's. Umpteen varieties of
> galvanized buckets, improbably huge things made of cast iron,
> and they supply hinges and screws to the National Trust for
> restoration work, since they still stock types that went out of
> common use decades ago.
the US a blacksmith shop (a shop where things are made of iron and steel
bar and rounds). What do they call a blacksmith shop in England?
--
wf.
bogus address wrote:
>
>
> It's old-fashioned but not completely dead. It's the word I grew up
> with (born in 1949, southern England), and I think the best kitchenware
> shop in Glasgow still has "Crocket's The Ironmongers" on its signboard.
>
> I wouldn't think anybody was speaking oddly if they used the word.
> But I'd be completely boggled if they said "lol".
>
> The best-preserved old-fashioned ironmonger's I've seen is in
> Dumfries - I think it's called Jardine's. Umpteen varieties of
> galvanized buckets, improbably huge things made of cast iron,
> and they supply hinges and screws to the National Trust for
> restoration work, since they still stock types that went out of
> common use decades ago.
Dec 6th 2004, 8:15 am
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Re: Ironmongers, was Re: Electrical adapter for London?
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:07:37 -0700, randee <[email protected]> wrote:
>I would have expected an ironmonger's shop to be what we call here in
>the US a blacksmith shop (a shop where things are made of iron and steel
>bar and rounds). What do they call a blacksmith shop in England?
A blacksmith
Jim.
>I would have expected an ironmonger's shop to be what we call here in
>the US a blacksmith shop (a shop where things are made of iron and steel
>bar and rounds). What do they call a blacksmith shop in England?
A blacksmith
Jim.
