Driving in Rome

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Old May 15th 2005, 9:13 am
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Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected] :

    > Planning to be there in the last week of May. We have the option of
    > flying Munich-Rome-Munich, but I'd prefer to drive as we can stay two
    > days longer and have the option of stopping in Florence on the way back
    > for a couple of days. Plus it should be easier to reach the tourist
    > locations (my guess).
    >
    > How big is the risk that the car will be stolen (an Audi A4) ? And how
    > dangerous is it to drive through Rome ? Any other things we need to
    > consider ?

Just to recap and offer second thoughts. You must tell the rental people
that you are going to Italy, they may strike that, they will, require
different and more expensive insurance and will not give you a waiver for
your credit card coverage. The danger is not in the driving, which is
chaotic but after a while one can begin to get the feel of it and it is
more ordered than it appears, the danger is in the parking, but if you are
in a hotel garage with security, you should be alright.

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Old May 15th 2005, 9:49 pm
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:49:04 +0200, Ralph Holz <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Hi,
    >Rog' wrote:
    >> are on the sides of buildings, (3) there were only 2 traffic lights in the
    >> entire city (or so it seemed), and (4) traffic lanes and other control
    >> devices are merely suggestions, so you just follow the car in front.
    >Almost right to the point. You missed one or two:
    >(5) If you need more space, just open up another lane. Others will follow swiftly.

We were once stuck in a traffic jam, when someone decided to open up a
new lane passing through a gas station. Between the entrance ramp and
the exit ramp of the gas station, he gained about 50 car lengths. The
people stuck in traffic let him in, because they thought he had
stopped to get gas. Then a bunch of other people followed him and the
stopped cars wised up and stopped letting people in.


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Old May 15th 2005, 9:49 pm
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 08:45:19 -0700, "Ken Blake"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Your guess is wrong. Having a car in Rome is a *terrible* idea,
    >but not because it's dangerous. Parking is next to impossible.
    >Even if you were willing to pay for parking, there are few if
    >any paid parking spaces. Traffic is terrible. Moreover navigating
    >your way through Rome's tangle of little one-way streets is
    >extremely difficult.

Also a good part of the "centro storico" is off limits to traffic, at
least in theory. There seem to be an awful lot of people who have
special permits.


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Old May 15th 2005, 10:29 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
    > And how dangerous is it to drive through Rome ? Any other things
    > we need to consider ?

You might find "Driving In Italy"
< http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/ItalDRIVE.html > at the site
at Right in the sig informative and/or helpful.
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Old May 15th 2005, 11:22 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, Runge says...
    > If you have foreign plates one out of 1000, except for nice big BMW's
    > Your car won(t be stolen, but maybe if you left some valuables inside...
    > Depends also where you leave it
    > really , a car is unnecessary in Rome, plenty of metro+ buses all over

Ok, let's abandon the idea to drive around in Rome with a car. Is there
anywhere in Rome a not too expensive guarded parking, which can be
easily reached when arriving from the northern motorway (and from where
you can easily get into town) ?
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Old May 16th 2005, 2:15 am
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 13:22:37 +0200, Alfred Molon
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Runge says...
    >> If you have foreign plates one out of 1000, except for nice big BMW's
    >> Your car won(t be stolen, but maybe if you left some valuables inside...
    >> Depends also where you leave it
    >> really , a car is unnecessary in Rome, plenty of metro+ buses all over
    >Ok, let's abandon the idea to drive around in Rome with a car. Is there
    >anywhere in Rome a not too expensive guarded parking, which can be
    >easily reached when arriving from the northern motorway (and from where
    >you can easily get into town) ?

My husband left his car at the long-term parking lot at Fiumicino
airport once when we spent a few days in Rome. We live northwest of
Rome and Fiumicino is southeast, but the airport is near the ring
road. I don't know if this is the best option; we weren't married yet
at the time, so he did the research himself.

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Old May 16th 2005, 8:36 am
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Usually airport P's are very expensive, even long term
Lets have a look on the Net and post answers

"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 16 May 2005 13:22:37 +0200, Alfred Molon
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>In article <[email protected]>, Runge says...
    >>> If you have foreign plates one out of 1000, except for nice big BMW's
    >>> Your car won(t be stolen, but maybe if you left some valuables inside...
    >>> Depends also where you leave it
    >>> really , a car is unnecessary in Rome, plenty of metro+ buses all over
    >>Ok, let's abandon the idea to drive around in Rome with a car. Is there
    >>anywhere in Rome a not too expensive guarded parking, which can be
    >>easily reached when arriving from the northern motorway (and from where
    >>you can easily get into town) ?
    > My husband left his car at the long-term parking lot at Fiumicino
    > airport once when we spent a few days in Rome. We live northwest of
    > Rome and Fiumicino is southeast, but the airport is near the ring
    > road. I don't know if this is the best option; we weren't married yet
    > at the time, so he did the research himself.
    > --
    > Barbara Vaughan
    > My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot
    > it
    > I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old May 16th 2005, 8:41 am
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http://www.enjoyrome.com/tourist/cit...om.the.ci.html
Now maybe you can check which is cheaper airport or public parking

"Runge" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > Usually airport P's are very expensive, even long term
    > Lets have a look on the Net and post answers
    > "B Vaughan" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    >> On Mon, 16 May 2005 13:22:37 +0200, Alfred Molon
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>In article <[email protected]>, Runge says...
    >>>> If you have foreign plates one out of 1000, except for nice big BMW's
    >>>> Your car won(t be stolen, but maybe if you left some valuables
    >>>> inside...
    >>>> Depends also where you leave it
    >>>> really , a car is unnecessary in Rome, plenty of metro+ buses all over
    >>>Ok, let's abandon the idea to drive around in Rome with a car. Is there
    >>>anywhere in Rome a not too expensive guarded parking, which can be
    >>>easily reached when arriving from the northern motorway (and from where
    >>>you can easily get into town) ?
    >> My husband left his car at the long-term parking lot at Fiumicino
    >> airport once when we spent a few days in Rome. We live northwest of
    >> Rome and Fiumicino is southeast, but the airport is near the ring
    >> road. I don't know if this is the best option; we weren't married yet
    >> at the time, so he did the research himself.
    >> --
    >> Barbara Vaughan
    >> My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot
    >> it
    >> I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
    >
 
Old May 16th 2005, 8:44 am
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http://www.miracleplayers.org/visiti...ng_in_rome.htm
http://www.whatsoninrome.com/news-2004-9.php
http://www.rome-city-guide.org/city-...sportation.htm

...not very encouraging


"Runge" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > Usually airport P's are very expensive, even long term
    > Lets have a look on the Net and post answers
    > "B Vaughan" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    >> On Mon, 16 May 2005 13:22:37 +0200, Alfred Molon
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>In article <[email protected]>, Runge says...
    >>>> If you have foreign plates one out of 1000, except for nice big BMW's
    >>>> Your car won(t be stolen, but maybe if you left some valuables
    >>>> inside...
    >>>> Depends also where you leave it
    >>>> really , a car is unnecessary in Rome, plenty of metro+ buses all over
    >>>Ok, let's abandon the idea to drive around in Rome with a car. Is there
    >>>anywhere in Rome a not too expensive guarded parking, which can be
    >>>easily reached when arriving from the northern motorway (and from where
    >>>you can easily get into town) ?
    >> My husband left his car at the long-term parking lot at Fiumicino
    >> airport once when we spent a few days in Rome. We live northwest of
    >> Rome and Fiumicino is southeast, but the airport is near the ring
    >> road. I don't know if this is the best option; we weren't married yet
    >> at the time, so he did the research himself.
    >> --
    >> Barbara Vaughan
    >> My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot
    >> it
    >> I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
    >
 
Old May 16th 2005, 12:14 pm
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no, believe me.... it's even worse.... and i live in rome since i was
born...

"Runge" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
    > 20 years ago!!!
    > Lol
    > Maybe Rome has changed a little, wouldn't you think so?
    > "James Silverton" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
    > news: [email protected]...
    > > Ken wrote on Sun, 15 May 2005 08:45:19 -0700:
    > >
    > > ??>> Planning to be there in the last week of May. We have the
    > > ??>> option of
    > > ??>> flying Munich-Rome-Munich, but I'd prefer to drive as we
    > > ??>> can stay two days longer and have the option of stopping
    > > ??>> in Florence on the way back for a couple of days. Plus it
    > > ??>> should be easier to reach the tourist locations (my
    > > ??>> guess).
    > >
    > > KB> Your guess is wrong. Having a car in Rome is a *terrible*
    > > KB> idea, but not because it's dangerous. Parking is next to
    > > KB> impossible. Even if you were willing to pay for parking,
    > > KB> there are few if any paid parking spaces. Traffic is
    > > KB> terrible. Moreover navigating your way through Rome's
    > > KB> tangle of little one-way streets is extremely difficult.
    > >
    > > KB> A tourist's having a car in Rome is nothing but an exercise
    > > KB> in frustration. It's not a convenience; it's a giant
    > > KB> handicap. It's far easier to reach the tourist destinations
    > > KB> on foot.
    > >
    > > KB> My very strong advice: don't do it.
    > >
    > > I would concur absolutely! I drove thro' Rome once 20 years ago and it
was
    > > accidental and quite traumatic. We had chosen the Cavallieri (sp ?)
Hilton
    > > because it was on the outskirts but, of course got lost and saw St.
    > > Peter's square 3 times before we found our way! After finally getting to
    > > the hotel we took taxis into the center and then walked or used public
    > > transportation. I don't think the traffic has improved much since then
    :-)
    > > The only other time I was in a private car in Rome, I was not driving
but
    > > we did something wrong in a traffic circle and a cop had an apparent
fit.
    > > Fortunately, they never caught up with us!
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > James V. Silverton
    > > Potomac, Maryland, USA
    > > James Silverton.
 
Old May 17th 2005, 3:36 am
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We took a rented Audi from germany to Rome. It survived 4 days parked
in a parking garage.

I will agree with others, DON't do it. It is very very hard to find
your way around and the driving is anarchistic and terrifying. And we
lived in Europe at the time so were used to the traffic laws (which are
not really observed in southern Italy anyway).

We drove at least an hour using good maps and could not reach our
hotel. We finally left 2 people in the car and walked to the hotel! We
asked how we could reach the hotel in the car and the man behind the
desk said, "Who told you to bring a car to Rome!?"

Rent the car and drive the rest of Italy but dump it before you go into
the city of Rome.
 
Old May 17th 2005, 3:47 am
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On 17 May 2005 08:36:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >We took a rented Audi from germany to Rome. It survived 4 days parked
    >in a parking garage.
    >I will agree with others, DON't do it. It is very very hard to find
    >your way around and the driving is anarchistic and terrifying.

Driving in and around Rome is child's play compared to driving in
Milan and Turin.
 
Old May 17th 2005, 4:40 am
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Hi,

nitram wrote:

    > Driving in and around Rome is child's play compared to driving in
    > Milan and Turin.

I absolutely disagree (yes, I did drive in Milan!). People in Milan frequently
obey the rules and actually stop at a red light, there's distinguished lanes
etc. Dunno what makes you say that.

Ralph

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Old May 17th 2005, 4:55 am
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I rented in Munich and drove to Italy last year. I informed the car
rental company of this before I arrived. They told me the car that I
was renting (Audi A4) was allowed into Italy (with no additional
charges and no CDW coverage required other than my credit card). They
would not have allowed a larger car than that into Italy at all they
said.
 
Old May 17th 2005, 6:17 am
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In news:[email protected] oups.com,
[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:

    > I will agree with others, DON't do it. It is very very hard to
    > find
    > your way around and the driving is anarchistic and terrifying.
    > And we
    > lived in Europe at the time so were used to the traffic laws
    > (which
    > are not really observed in southern Italy anyway).
    > We drove at least an hour using good maps and could not reach
    > our
    > hotel. We finally left 2 people in the car and walked to the
    > hotel! We
    > asked how we could reach the hotel in the car and the man
    > behind the
    > desk said, "Who told you to bring a car to Rome!?"
    > Rent the car and drive the rest of Italy but dump it before you
    > go
    > into the city of Rome.


I would modify that last sentence to read "Rent the car and drive
the countryside of Italy but dump it before you go into any large
city in Italy." I certainly don't recommend driving in Rome, but
it's no worse than other large cities, and better than
some--Naples, for example.

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