Driving Fast in North Germany
Sep 6th 2005, 10:38 pm
#16
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Re: Driving Fast in North Germany
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 01:04:24 +0200, Ralph Holz wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> BTW There is also a "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (recommended speed limit) which
>> is not binding as such, of 130km/h on most stretches. If you break that,
>> your insurance may be invalid in case of accident. Over that and the courts
>> tend to come down quite hard on you.
>
> Hm. I don't think so, but I've got no legal background to back this up: the
> third person insurance should never be invalidated as that is quite the point of
> the German insurance system. However, an insurance company could argue that
> driving that fast is grossly negligent and refuse to pay for the damage he
> inflicts upon himself.
>
> I agree with the courts remark, of course.
It was based on what I remember from the after the general 130km
Richtgeschwindigkeit became commonplace a few years ago. You are probably
right. 3rd party should always be honoured, but I vaguely remember a few
news stories where I got the impression this wasn't the case.
I'm probably going senile, so just ignore me.
--
Tim C.
> Hi,
>
>> BTW There is also a "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (recommended speed limit) which
>> is not binding as such, of 130km/h on most stretches. If you break that,
>> your insurance may be invalid in case of accident. Over that and the courts
>> tend to come down quite hard on you.
>
> Hm. I don't think so, but I've got no legal background to back this up: the
> third person insurance should never be invalidated as that is quite the point of
> the German insurance system. However, an insurance company could argue that
> driving that fast is grossly negligent and refuse to pay for the damage he
> inflicts upon himself.
>
> I agree with the courts remark, of course.
It was based on what I remember from the after the general 130km
Richtgeschwindigkeit became commonplace a few years ago. You are probably
right. 3rd party should always be honoured, but I vaguely remember a few
news stories where I got the impression this wasn't the case.
I'm probably going senile, so just ignore me.
--
Tim C.
Sep 7th 2005, 11:49 pm
#17
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Re: Driving Fast in North Germany
stangguy90 wrote:
> I can't believe all the negative response! I have enough b*lls to try
> and do something I really want to, and somehow I qualify for the Darwin
> awards. I suppose we should give a darwin award to anyone who swims in
> the ocean, you know with sharks in it and all. 200 mph is no big deal.
> I hit 140 in a station wagon this weekend, 60 more mph is no problem,
> especially in a car that is built for such speed. And to anyone who is
> worried about being on the road when I am, I am not an idiot and don't
> have a deathwish for you or myself.
In fact, increasing the speed by 60 mph from 140 to 200 will double the
kinetic energy. It will double your braking distance. However, it will
SUBSTANTIALLY reduce the margin of error for other road users if they
happen to pull out in front of you. When I say that, I don't mean the
idiots that pull out 20 feet in front of you, but the ones who look in
their mirror and can just see you 500 yards away.
T.
>
> JohnT wrote:
>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:15:38 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Am Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:27:07 +0200 schrieb Martin:
>>>>>Good medical insurance?
>>>>At the speed the OP is intending to drive you don't need that
>>>>anymore...better get a life insurance.
>>>A prepaid funeral?
>>Or, as Frank Windsor (ex Sgt. Watt from Z-Cars) used to say in his TV
>>adverts for an Insurance Company, cover to take care of those final
>>expenses.
>>JohnT
>
>
> I can't believe all the negative response! I have enough b*lls to try
> and do something I really want to, and somehow I qualify for the Darwin
> awards. I suppose we should give a darwin award to anyone who swims in
> the ocean, you know with sharks in it and all. 200 mph is no big deal.
> I hit 140 in a station wagon this weekend, 60 more mph is no problem,
> especially in a car that is built for such speed. And to anyone who is
> worried about being on the road when I am, I am not an idiot and don't
> have a deathwish for you or myself.
In fact, increasing the speed by 60 mph from 140 to 200 will double the
kinetic energy. It will double your braking distance. However, it will
SUBSTANTIALLY reduce the margin of error for other road users if they
happen to pull out in front of you. When I say that, I don't mean the
idiots that pull out 20 feet in front of you, but the ones who look in
their mirror and can just see you 500 yards away.
T.
>
> JohnT wrote:
>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:15:38 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Am Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:27:07 +0200 schrieb Martin:
>>>>>Good medical insurance?
>>>>At the speed the OP is intending to drive you don't need that
>>>>anymore...better get a life insurance.
>>>A prepaid funeral?
>>Or, as Frank Windsor (ex Sgt. Watt from Z-Cars) used to say in his TV
>>adverts for an Insurance Company, cover to take care of those final
>>expenses.
>>JohnT
>
>
Sep 7th 2005, 11:51 pm
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Re: Driving Fast in North Germany
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:49:30 +0200, Tom Peel wrote:
> stangguy90 wrote:
>> I can't believe all the negative response! I have enough b*lls to try
>> and do something I really want to, and somehow I qualify for the Darwin
>> awards. I suppose we should give a darwin award to anyone who swims in
>> the ocean, you know with sharks in it and all. 200 mph is no big deal.
>> I hit 140 in a station wagon this weekend, 60 more mph is no problem,
>> especially in a car that is built for such speed. And to anyone who is
>> worried about being on the road when I am, I am not an idiot and don't
>> have a deathwish for you or myself.
>
> In fact, increasing the speed by 60 mph from 140 to 200 will double the
> kinetic energy. It will double your braking distance. However, it will
> SUBSTANTIALLY reduce the margin of error for other road users if they
> happen to pull out in front of you. When I say that, I don't mean the
> idiots that pull out 20 feet in front of you, but the ones who look in
> their mirror and can just see you 500 yards away.
>
> T.
>>
>> JohnT wrote:
>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>>On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:15:38 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Am Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:27:07 +0200 schrieb Martin:
>>>>>>Good medical insurance?
>>>>>At the speed the OP is intending to drive you don't need that
>>>>>anymore...better get a life insurance.
>>>>A prepaid funeral?
>>>Or, as Frank Windsor (ex Sgt. Watt from Z-Cars) used to say in his TV
>>>adverts for an Insurance Company, cover to take care of those final
>>>expenses.
>>>JohnT
>>
500 yards ona German motorway isn't far enough to look behind.
--
Tim C.
> stangguy90 wrote:
>> I can't believe all the negative response! I have enough b*lls to try
>> and do something I really want to, and somehow I qualify for the Darwin
>> awards. I suppose we should give a darwin award to anyone who swims in
>> the ocean, you know with sharks in it and all. 200 mph is no big deal.
>> I hit 140 in a station wagon this weekend, 60 more mph is no problem,
>> especially in a car that is built for such speed. And to anyone who is
>> worried about being on the road when I am, I am not an idiot and don't
>> have a deathwish for you or myself.
>
> In fact, increasing the speed by 60 mph from 140 to 200 will double the
> kinetic energy. It will double your braking distance. However, it will
> SUBSTANTIALLY reduce the margin of error for other road users if they
> happen to pull out in front of you. When I say that, I don't mean the
> idiots that pull out 20 feet in front of you, but the ones who look in
> their mirror and can just see you 500 yards away.
>
> T.
>>
>> JohnT wrote:
>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>>On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:15:38 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Am Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:27:07 +0200 schrieb Martin:
>>>>>>Good medical insurance?
>>>>>At the speed the OP is intending to drive you don't need that
>>>>>anymore...better get a life insurance.
>>>>A prepaid funeral?
>>>Or, as Frank Windsor (ex Sgt. Watt from Z-Cars) used to say in his TV
>>>adverts for an Insurance Company, cover to take care of those final
>>>expenses.
>>>JohnT
>>
500 yards ona German motorway isn't far enough to look behind.
--
Tim C.
