newsposter

Yes it is USA
I don't like the "train" idea as I will be forced to follow the train's
schedule and not mine.
I am not an exceptional skier so I may get tired and want to go home in
the middle of the day. I top of that as I said I would like to visit
the region it may not be pure skiing.

Depending on how many baggages you have the air lines allow you to take
the skis and boots as the second item ( you ar allowed to take 2x23 kg
pieces)...so that may do it !


Alex Heney wrote:
    > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:48:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >Following up to [email protected] :
    > >
    > >>The air company will charge me 10-20$/kg to have my own ski set with
    > >>me.
    > >>Renting doesn't sound good at all for me. Yes I will be traveling each
    > >>day to an other resort
    > >
    > >Have you considered the ski trains? There are often special trains to
    > >selected resorts which do a good deal on ski-passes as well.
    > >
    > I have a sneaking suspicion he may be traveling from the USA (the
    > reference to $ above may be a clue). There aren't any ski trains to
    > Austria from there :-)
    > >
    > >>I just want to see them all (as I selected them they are among the best
    > >>in Austria I would say).
    > >>Now I am wondering which one makes more sense:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >>-to have my own set
    > >>-to rent one
    > >>-to buy one there
    > >>
    > >>I as someone said I do not need the latest model of boots or skis...but
    > >>I doubt that for 150 euros I can buy skis and boots in Innsbruk for
    > >>instance.
    > >
    > >You could get a set of skis/bindings/stick for around that -February.
    > >If you really want to buy something, then buy boots, and rent the rest.
    > >
    > You can often use a second pair of skis. But boots? And his own boots
    > can go in an ordinary suitcase, so are the easiest part of his kit to
    > bring with him anyhow.
    > >
    > >> It is also time consuming. I will anyway have to pay :-)) to
    > >>take them back with me :-(
    > >>Renting means probably 150 euros at least for 5 days.
    > >>Having my own I believe is going to be the same amount.
    > >
    > >Not counting boots, which will set you back around �200+ depending on what
    > >you want.
    > >
    > >>Never cared how
    > >>much a ski set would weight !:-) I have to find out.
    > >
    > >They're heavier than you think. The whole lot will most likely be over
    > >10kg.(skis~3.6kg pair, bindings 1.6kg pair, boots ~5+kg pair)
    > Yes.
    > It all adds up. I find my luggage (including skis) usually weighs more
    > for a solo ski holiday than for a pair of us on a summer holiday (and
    > we take a lot of books on a summer holiday).
    > --
    > Alex Heney, Global Villager
    > If you associate with the wise, you will become wise.
    > To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Wolfgang May

In rec.travel.europe [email protected] wrote:

    > > >>Renting doesn't sound good at all for me. Yes I will be traveling each
    > > >>day to an other resort
    > > >
    > > >Have you considered the ski trains? There are often special trains to
    > > >selected resorts which do a good deal on ski-passes as well.
    > >
    > > I have a sneaking suspicion he may be traveling from the USA (the
    > > reference to $ above may be a clue). There aren't any ski trains to
    > > Austria from there :-)

The train idea was most probably not meant for travel from/to Austria, but for
"traveling each day to another resort".

    > Yes it is USA
    > I don't like the "train" idea as I will be forced to follow the train's
    > schedule and not mine.

With the car, you can also not necessarily follow "your schedule". You
most probably will get stuck in traffic jams. Especially the way
between Innsbruck and the Arlberg (and also the Ischgl area) is often
problematic. It is the main connection between Austria and the
Austrian state "Vorarlberg", via a tunnel that starts in St.Anton.

E.g., when the motorway is closed at a certain place, all traffic must
go through the town of Landeck, where the road crosses below an old
train bridge where it is not possible to have a truck, bus or
motorcaravan in one direction and any other vehicle in the other (it
is sufficient for two cars). You can spend hours passing there.

    > I am not an exceptional skier so I may get tired and want to go home in
    > the middle of the day.

I am not sure whether there is only one train up in the morning and
one down in the evening, but there could be one e.g. each hour. Check
the tourist info.

    > I top of that as I said I would like to visit
    > the region it may not be pure skiing.

If you have a day off this way, I recommend to visit Southern Tyrol
(Bolzano/Bozen via direct trains or Merano/Meran which is probably
even nicer - you can also go by car [additional toll across the
Brenner pass], but the train is sufficient and simpler for these
places). Have a look on the Web before to get an impression.
(Especially for the case that it is not possible to go for skiing
because of bad weather conditions)

Wolfgang

Turan Fettahoglu

    > My skis I bought in winter 1987.
    > My first snowboard in summer 1987. The newest one in 1993.
    > I'm not a slave of fashion, as you can see.

I used the same pair of skis for 27 years, because they never had broken. (I
am not kidding!)

After trying a pair of new carving skis I threw away the old ones. Have a
try, new skis do make a difference!

Turan

Jens Arne Maennig

Turan Fettahoglu wrote:

    > After trying a pair of new carving skis I threw away the old ones.
    > Have a try, new skis do make a difference!

My results of trying carving skis for the first time (it was a weekend
training with the head instructor of DSV's (Deutscher Ski Verband,
German Ski Association) ski instructor school) were:

- a luxated shoulder
- some bruises
- some grazes
- a ragged skiing jacket
- a broken Ray-Ban

After you get used to them, they are fine.

Jens

Jens Arne Maennig

Tim C. wrote:

    > the German motoring club ADAC

"The"? Those gansters are not the only ones, thank God.

Jens

Martin Theodor Ludwig

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:43:39 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Following up to [email protected] :
    >>-Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
    >>(if you know)
    >You can get them at the border.

This is true only if at the border there is "occasionally" one of these:

    >All fuel stations, tobacconists and all
    >shops of the Austrian motoring clubs �AMTC and ARB�. Look for the
    >"vignette" sticker on the window or the till.
    >Also most German motorway service stations and the German motoring club
    >ADAC.

but - as opposed to Switzerland - the border patrol (office), as far
as it's still present (and manned), doesn't sell the vignettes.

Regards, Martin

Tom Peel

tile schrieb:
    > <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:[email protected] ups.com...
    >> Hi
    >> I was told that for driving in Austria I will need a sticker (for
    >> autobahn)
    >> Is it the same for Germany ?
    >> I am going to drive daily form Innsbruck to the following destinations
    >> Kuhtai Glacier
    >> Stubaier Glacier
    >> Ischgl
    >> Solden
    >> Arlber St Anton
    >> I will do this for skiing. I have a few questions:
    >> -What currency am I supposed to have with me ?
    >> -For those of you who went there ...what are the supplimentary charges
    >> applied for a VISA or Mastercard transaction (my account is not in the
    >> local currency) . I am not happy to travel with a lot of cash with me.
    >> -Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
    >> (if you know)
    >> -How much would be to rent complete set for skiing (boots, poles,
    >> skiis) ?
    >> Any recommendations for driving eating and skiing for these
    >> destinations would be much appreciated. I would also like to know if
    >> the parking is OK for these destinations. Are there any fee for parking
    >> ?
    >
    > pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
    > so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
    >

Fat chance in winter. It took me 6 hours today to drive 500 km.

If he is planning to drive into any ski resorts, if he has any sanity he
should make sure his car is fitted with snow tyres, in which case he
should not exceed the rated max speed of the tyres.

T.

newsposter

Thank you very much.
The traffic jam is a good point.
Is there any web site were I would be able to check the traffic
conditions ?
The hotel has Internet so...it will be wonderful if at 7 AM I can check
the traffic and see whic way is better to go.

Thank you

NP


Wolfgang May wrote:
    > In rec.travel.europe [email protected] wrote:
    > > > >>Renting doesn't sound good at all for me. Yes I will be traveling each
    > > > >>day to an other resort
    > > > >
    > > > >Have you considered the ski trains? There are often special trains to
    > > > >selected resorts which do a good deal on ski-passes as well.
    > > >
    > > > I have a sneaking suspicion he may be traveling from the USA (the
    > > > reference to $ above may be a clue). There aren't any ski trains to
    > > > Austria from there :-)
    > The train idea was most probably not meant for travel from/to Austria, but for
    > "traveling each day to another resort".
    > > Yes it is USA
    > > I don't like the "train" idea as I will be forced to follow the train's
    > > schedule and not mine.
    > With the car, you can also not necessarily follow "your schedule". You
    > most probably will get stuck in traffic jams. Especially the way
    > between Innsbruck and the Arlberg (and also the Ischgl area) is often
    > problematic. It is the main connection between Austria and the
    > Austrian state "Vorarlberg", via a tunnel that starts in St.Anton.
    > E.g., when the motorway is closed at a certain place, all traffic must
    > go through the town of Landeck, where the road crosses below an old
    > train bridge where it is not possible to have a truck, bus or
    > motorcaravan in one direction and any other vehicle in the other (it
    > is sufficient for two cars). You can spend hours passing there.
    > > I am not an exceptional skier so I may get tired and want to go home in
    > > the middle of the day.
    > I am not sure whether there is only one train up in the morning and
    > one down in the evening, but there could be one e.g. each hour. Check
    > the tourist info.
    > > I top of that as I said I would like to visit
    > > the region it may not be pure skiing.
    > If you have a day off this way, I recommend to visit Southern Tyrol
    > (Bolzano/Bozen via direct trains or Merano/Meran which is probably
    > even nicer - you can also go by car [additional toll across the
    > Brenner pass], but the train is sufficient and simpler for these
    > places). Have a look on the Web before to get an impression.
    > (Especially for the case that it is not possible to go for skiing
    > because of bad weather conditions)
    >
    > Wolfgang

Wolfgang May

In rec.travel.europe [email protected] wrote:
    > Thank you very much.
    > The traffic jam is a good point.
    > Is there any web site were I would be able to check the traffic
    > conditions ?

Often the TV/radio stations have.
In Austria: www.orf.at, probably also private ones in Tyrol.
But: usually only in Austrian-German Language.

    > The hotel has Internet so...it will be wonderful if at 7 AM I can check
    > the traffic and see whic way is better to go.

At 7am there is usually no problem (except for bad weather conditions,
avalanches etc), the problems come then during the day.

Probably ask the locals in the hotel what they recommend - they have
experience.

Wolfgang

newsposter

Thank you Wolfgang !
any idea how much is set of snow chains in Germany ?
I was told that I may need them if I take the Walchensee route to
Innsbruck.

Thanks
NP



Wolfgang May wrote:
    > In rec.travel.europe [email protected] wrote:
    > > Thank you very much.
    > > The traffic jam is a good point.
    > > Is there any web site were I would be able to check the traffic
    > > conditions ?
    > Often the TV/radio stations have.
    > In Austria: www.orf.at, probably also private ones in Tyrol.
    > But: usually only in Austrian-German Language.
    > > The hotel has Internet so...it will be wonderful if at 7 AM I can check
    > > the traffic and see whic way is better to go.
    > At 7am there is usually no problem (except for bad weather conditions,
    > avalanches etc), the problems come then during the day.
    > Probably ask the locals in the hotel what they recommend - they have
    > experience.
    >
    > Wolfgang

Jens Arne Maennig

[email protected] wrote:

    > any idea how much is set of snow chains in Germany ?

Depending on the wheel size and rim type, from 45 euro. You may also
ask your car rental if they have any offers available.

    > I was told that I may need them if I take the Walchensee route to
    > Innsbruck.

May, yes. I haven't used mine for over ten years.

Jens

Tim C .

Following up to "Turan Fettahoglu" <[email protected]> :

    >> My skis I bought in winter 1987.
    >> My first snowboard in summer 1987. The newest one in 1993.
    >> I'm not a slave of fashion, as you can see.
    >I used the same pair of skis for 27 years, because they never had broken. (I
    >am not kidding!)
    >After trying a pair of new carving skis I threw away the old ones. Have a
    >try, new skis do make a difference!

Yes I know. But I don't ski that much. My board is going to get replaced
soon.
--
Tim C.

Tim C .

Following up to Alex Heney <[email protected]> :

    >On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:48:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >>Following up to [email protected] :
    >>>The air company will charge me 10-20$/kg to have my own ski set with
    >>>me.
    >>>Renting doesn't sound good at all for me. Yes I will be traveling each
    >>>day to an other resort
    >>Have you considered the ski trains? There are often special trains to
    >>selected resorts which do a good deal on ski-passes as well.
    >I have a sneaking suspicion he may be traveling from the USA (the
    >reference to $ above may be a clue). There aren't any ski trains to
    >Austria from there :-)

...from Innsbruck, presumably.
--
Tim C.

Tim C .

Following up to [email protected] :

    >Thank you very much.
    >The traffic jam is a good point.
    >Is there any web site were I would be able to check the traffic
    >conditions ?

http://www.oeamtc.at/verkehrsservice/

Click on the map to zoom onto the area you want.
Also as Wolfgang suggests the ORF teletext service on the TV.
--
Tim C.

Tim C .

Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :

    >Tim C. wrote:
    >> the German motoring club ADAC
    >"The"? Those gansters are not the only ones, thank God.

ok then, 'a' :-)
I couldn't remember the other one(s). DAS?

--
Tim C.