Driving in Austria and Germany
Nov 28th 2006, 9:45 am
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"coolblock" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.
......
He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
> a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
> bothered with the speeding infraction
In 1990 there was no motorway sticker in Austria. It was introduced in the
mid-90ies!
lg Gernot
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> This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.
......
He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
> a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
> bothered with the speeding infraction
In 1990 there was no motorway sticker in Austria. It was introduced in the
mid-90ies!
lg Gernot
Nov 28th 2006, 9:50 am
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you made my day with your sense of humour.
Thanks everybody for answering to my questions.
Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I was told that for driving in Austria I will need a sticker (for
> > autobahn)
> > Is it the same for Germany ?
> No, if you drive an automobile. If you drive a truck over 12 tons,
> please refer to http://www.toll-collect.de/.
> > I am going to drive daily form Innsbruck to the following destinations
> >
> > Kuhtai Glacier
> > Stubaier Glacier
> > Ischgl
> > Solden
> > Arlber St Anton
> >
> > I will do this for skiing.
> Sounds like a good idea.
> > I have a few questions:
> >
> > -What currency am I supposed to have with me ?
> They really like euros around here. :-)
> > -For those of you who went there ...what are the supplimentary charges
> > applied for a VISA or Mastercard transaction (my account is not in the
> > local currency) .
> Ask your bank or credit card provider. This question has been posted
> here many times but there are no general rules valid for all bank
> accounts and/or credit cards.
> > I am not happy to travel with a lot of cash with me.
> Cash dispensers exist. Even in Austria. Look for "Bankomat".
> > -Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
> > (if you know)
> For Germany, there is no sticker necessary, see above. For Austria, I
> would suggest to get it at any autobahn gas station in Germany or any
> gas station near the Austrian border *before* you enter Austria. Ask
> for "Vignette" or "Pickerl". There are stickers valid for 10 days
> (7.60 euro) and valid for two months (21.80 euro) plus a version for
> the whole year which might not be relevant for you.
> > -How much would be to rent complete set for skiing (boots, poles,
> > skiis) ?
> I'd calculate 25 to 30 euro a day, going down for more days. I
> understand you would like to rent once in Innsbruck for the whole time
> and take your equipment with you each day. Have a look at
> http://tinyurl.com/ycd7x7 and maybe http://www.letsrent.at/preise.htm
> for some more information.
> > Any recommendations for driving eating and skiing for these
> > destinations would be much appreciated.
> I'd still be sitting here typing by tomorrow morning. Start some
> research at http://www.tyrol.com/.
> > I would also like to know if the parking is OK for these
> > destinations. Are there any fee for parking ?
> Normally not. In return, they will charge you a fortune for the
> skiing tickets.
>
> Jens
Thanks everybody for answering to my questions.
Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I was told that for driving in Austria I will need a sticker (for
> > autobahn)
> > Is it the same for Germany ?
> No, if you drive an automobile. If you drive a truck over 12 tons,
> please refer to http://www.toll-collect.de/.
> > I am going to drive daily form Innsbruck to the following destinations
> >
> > Kuhtai Glacier
> > Stubaier Glacier
> > Ischgl
> > Solden
> > Arlber St Anton
> >
> > I will do this for skiing.
> Sounds like a good idea.
> > I have a few questions:
> >
> > -What currency am I supposed to have with me ?
> They really like euros around here. :-)
> > -For those of you who went there ...what are the supplimentary charges
> > applied for a VISA or Mastercard transaction (my account is not in the
> > local currency) .
> Ask your bank or credit card provider. This question has been posted
> here many times but there are no general rules valid for all bank
> accounts and/or credit cards.
> > I am not happy to travel with a lot of cash with me.
> Cash dispensers exist. Even in Austria. Look for "Bankomat".
> > -Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
> > (if you know)
> For Germany, there is no sticker necessary, see above. For Austria, I
> would suggest to get it at any autobahn gas station in Germany or any
> gas station near the Austrian border *before* you enter Austria. Ask
> for "Vignette" or "Pickerl". There are stickers valid for 10 days
> (7.60 euro) and valid for two months (21.80 euro) plus a version for
> the whole year which might not be relevant for you.
> > -How much would be to rent complete set for skiing (boots, poles,
> > skiis) ?
> I'd calculate 25 to 30 euro a day, going down for more days. I
> understand you would like to rent once in Innsbruck for the whole time
> and take your equipment with you each day. Have a look at
> http://tinyurl.com/ycd7x7 and maybe http://www.letsrent.at/preise.htm
> for some more information.
> > Any recommendations for driving eating and skiing for these
> > destinations would be much appreciated.
> I'd still be sitting here typing by tomorrow morning. Start some
> research at http://www.tyrol.com/.
> > I would also like to know if the parking is OK for these
> > destinations. Are there any fee for parking ?
> Normally not. In return, they will charge you a fortune for the
> skiing tickets.
>
> Jens
Nov 28th 2006, 9:50 am
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Gernot Egger wrote:
> "coolblock" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>> This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.
> ......
>> He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
>> a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
>> bothered with the speeding infraction
>
> In 1990 there was no motorway sticker in Austria. It was introduced in the
> mid-90ies!
What a pathetic try to make this phantastic story untrustworthy.
Jens
> "coolblock" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
>> This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.
> ......
>> He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
>> a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
>> bothered with the speeding infraction
>
> In 1990 there was no motorway sticker in Austria. It was introduced in the
> mid-90ies!
What a pathetic try to make this phantastic story untrustworthy.
Jens
Nov 28th 2006, 9:53 am
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:50 GMT, "tile"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
>you will have to buy a sticke in Austria.. they havea different cost
>depending on how long they are valid for..
>I think the minimum is one week / 10 days.. the maximum one year
>besides. you will need to pay extra charges in tunnels or bridges ( i think
>there are 6 such locations where you pay extra money in Austria. )
>I would not risk travelling without a sticker in Austria..
>if they check. and you are without..
>you will pay huge money..
Not actually huge - but the oh-so-polite policeman in 2003
informed me that, at �120, I was being fined much less than
a local would have been. But then, as I informed him
somewhat less politely through gritted teeth, a local would
have been aware of the requirement.
>Credit cards are accepted almost everywhere
>being visa and mustercard the most commonly accepted
>without any surcharge.
>ATM machines are also everywhere
No need for a vignette in Germany - just a need for eyes in
the back of your head when you move from the right lane to a
passing lane. It's disconcerting when you check the mirror,
see that it's clear, then move over and find a BMW or
Porsche - or even a VW - has appeared seemingly from nowhere
and wants to drive in your boot.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
>you will have to buy a sticke in Austria.. they havea different cost
>depending on how long they are valid for..
>I think the minimum is one week / 10 days.. the maximum one year
>besides. you will need to pay extra charges in tunnels or bridges ( i think
>there are 6 such locations where you pay extra money in Austria. )
>I would not risk travelling without a sticker in Austria..
>if they check. and you are without..
>you will pay huge money..
Not actually huge - but the oh-so-polite policeman in 2003
informed me that, at �120, I was being fined much less than
a local would have been. But then, as I informed him
somewhat less politely through gritted teeth, a local would
have been aware of the requirement.
>Credit cards are accepted almost everywhere
>being visa and mustercard the most commonly accepted
>without any surcharge.
>ATM machines are also everywhere
No need for a vignette in Germany - just a need for eyes in
the back of your head when you move from the right lane to a
passing lane. It's disconcerting when you check the mirror,
see that it's clear, then move over and find a BMW or
Porsche - or even a VW - has appeared seemingly from nowhere
and wants to drive in your boot.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Pompeii, Amalfi, Bari
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
Nov 28th 2006, 10:17 am
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"Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:50 GMT, "tile"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on
>>Autobahnen..
>>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
>>you will have to buy a sticke in Austria.. they havea different cost
>>depending on how long they are valid for..
>>I think the minimum is one week / 10 days.. the maximum one year
>>besides. you will need to pay extra charges in tunnels or bridges ( i
>>think
>>there are 6 such locations where you pay extra money in Austria. )
>>I would not risk travelling without a sticker in Austria..
>>if they check. and you are without..
>>you will pay huge money..
> Not actually huge - but the oh-so-polite policeman in 2003
> informed me that, at �120, I was being fined much less than
> a local would have been. But then, as I informed him
> somewhat less politely through gritted teeth, a local would
> have been aware of the requirement.
I got fined in CZ, not for not knowing that I needed
a sticker, but for not knowing that the road I was on
led only to a 'sticker' area.
I was following a diversion across a motorway rebuilding
and by the time that I got to the "sticker required from
here" sign, there was nowhere else to go, the free exit
being closed by the road works. The policeman was
waiting 100 yards down the road.
Boy was I annoyed. IIRC he fined me about 4 Euro, but
that's wasn't the point.
tim
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:50 GMT, "tile"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on
>>Autobahnen..
>>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
>>you will have to buy a sticke in Austria.. they havea different cost
>>depending on how long they are valid for..
>>I think the minimum is one week / 10 days.. the maximum one year
>>besides. you will need to pay extra charges in tunnels or bridges ( i
>>think
>>there are 6 such locations where you pay extra money in Austria. )
>>I would not risk travelling without a sticker in Austria..
>>if they check. and you are without..
>>you will pay huge money..
> Not actually huge - but the oh-so-polite policeman in 2003
> informed me that, at �120, I was being fined much less than
> a local would have been. But then, as I informed him
> somewhat less politely through gritted teeth, a local would
> have been aware of the requirement.
I got fined in CZ, not for not knowing that I needed
a sticker, but for not knowing that the road I was on
led only to a 'sticker' area.
I was following a diversion across a motorway rebuilding
and by the time that I got to the "sticker required from
here" sign, there was nowhere else to go, the free exit
being closed by the road works. The policeman was
waiting 100 yards down the road.
Boy was I annoyed. IIRC he fined me about 4 Euro, but
that's wasn't the point.
tim
Nov 28th 2006, 6:31 pm
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Following up to Wolfgang May <[email protected]> :
>If you rent a car, I would expect that it has such a sticker (called "Pickerl"
>in Austria).
It's called a "Vignette".
A "Pickerl" is the sticker you get when the car takes its MOT (TÜV).
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>If you rent a car, I would expect that it has such a sticker (called "Pickerl"
>in Austria).
It's called a "Vignette".
A "Pickerl" is the sticker you get when the car takes its MOT (TÜV).
--
Tim C.
Nov 28th 2006, 6:37 pm
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Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>I'd calculate 25 to 30 euro a day, going down for more days. I
>understand you would like to rent once in Innsbruck for the whole time
>and take your equipment with you each day. Have a look at
>http://tinyurl.com/ycd7x7 and maybe http://www.letsrent.at/preise.htm
>for some more information.
The Intersport shop in St.Anton/Arlberg charges between €37 and €47 per day
for a set.
http://www.sport-alber.com/de/rent_preise.php
--
Tim C.
>I'd calculate 25 to 30 euro a day, going down for more days. I
>understand you would like to rent once in Innsbruck for the whole time
>and take your equipment with you each day. Have a look at
>http://tinyurl.com/ycd7x7 and maybe http://www.letsrent.at/preise.htm
>for some more information.
The Intersport shop in St.Anton/Arlberg charges between €37 and €47 per day
for a set.
http://www.sport-alber.com/de/rent_preise.php
--
Tim C.
Nov 28th 2006, 6:40 pm
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Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
--
Tim C.
>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
--
Tim C.
Nov 28th 2006, 6:42 pm
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Following up to "coolblock" <[email protected]> :
>This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.I
>crossed the Austrian border about midnight and there wqs nobody at the
>crossing,it looked totally deserted.Anyway a couple days later I was
>driving on the autobahn and I happened into an area that actually had a
>speed limit and naturally I was exceeeding it and a nice policeman
>pulled me over.He spoke almost no English and right away he could tell
>I was clueless.He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
>a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
>bothered with the speeding infraction
You obviously were clueless.
You were probably being fined for the speeding offence.
--
Tim C.
>This post reminds me of a episode I had back in 1990 in Austria.I
>crossed the Austrian border about midnight and there wqs nobody at the
>crossing,it looked totally deserted.Anyway a couple days later I was
>driving on the autobahn and I happened into an area that actually had a
>speed limit and naturally I was exceeeding it and a nice policeman
>pulled me over.He spoke almost no English and right away he could tell
>I was clueless.He finally made me understand I needed a "sticker"...not
>a problem I gave him 30 or 40 US dollars and he waved me on and never
>bothered with the speeding infraction
You obviously were clueless.
You were probably being fined for the speeding offence.
--
Tim C.
Nov 28th 2006, 6:44 pm
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"Martin" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:50 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>> Hi
>> I was told that for driving in Austria I will need a sticker (for
>> autobahn)
>> Is it the same for Germany ?
>> I am going to drive daily form Innsbruck to the following destinations
>> Kuhtai Glacier
>> Stubaier Glacier
>> Ischgl
>> Solden
>> Arlber St Anton
>> I will do this for skiing. I have a few questions:
>> -What currency am I supposed to have with me ?
>> -For those of you who went there ...what are the supplimentary charges
>> applied for a VISA or Mastercard transaction (my account is not in the
>> local currency) . I am not happy to travel with a lot of cash with me.
>> -Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
>> (if you know)
>> -How much would be to rent complete set for skiing (boots, poles,
>> skiis) ?
>> Any recommendations for driving eating and skiing for these
>> destinations would be much appreciated. I would also like to know if
>> the parking is OK for these destinations. Are there any fee for parking
>> ?
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
"German roads are fast and well maintained. Notoriously, German
motorways (the Autobahn) are free of speed limits in certain areas,
but where speed limits do exist they are generally strongly enforced
and as such it is obviously advisable that you stick to them."
--
Martin
agree..
still it is nice not to have any speed limit..
and where there are speed limits.. there is a good reason for that.-
I can tell that in Italy most accidents do not happen on toll roads.. but in
normal roads
75% of the casualties are during the so called
Friday Night war..
most young people come out of discos full of alcohol drugs and tiredness
and then accidents occur
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:50 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>> Hi
>> I was told that for driving in Austria I will need a sticker (for
>> autobahn)
>> Is it the same for Germany ?
>> I am going to drive daily form Innsbruck to the following destinations
>> Kuhtai Glacier
>> Stubaier Glacier
>> Ischgl
>> Solden
>> Arlber St Anton
>> I will do this for skiing. I have a few questions:
>> -What currency am I supposed to have with me ?
>> -For those of you who went there ...what are the supplimentary charges
>> applied for a VISA or Mastercard transaction (my account is not in the
>> local currency) . I am not happy to travel with a lot of cash with me.
>> -Where can I buy the stickers for Germany and Austria and for how much
>> (if you know)
>> -How much would be to rent complete set for skiing (boots, poles,
>> skiis) ?
>> Any recommendations for driving eating and skiing for these
>> destinations would be much appreciated. I would also like to know if
>> the parking is OK for these destinations. Are there any fee for parking
>> ?
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
"German roads are fast and well maintained. Notoriously, German
motorways (the Autobahn) are free of speed limits in certain areas,
but where speed limits do exist they are generally strongly enforced
and as such it is obviously advisable that you stick to them."
--
Martin
agree..
still it is nice not to have any speed limit..
and where there are speed limits.. there is a good reason for that.-
I can tell that in Italy most accidents do not happen on toll roads.. but in
normal roads
75% of the casualties are during the so called
Friday Night war..
most young people come out of discos full of alcohol drugs and tiredness
and then accidents occur
Nov 28th 2006, 7:08 pm
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Tim C. wrote:
> Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
>
> They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
You would, however, still notice their activity afterwards. But maybe
they're so good that your money still appears to be present ...
Jens
> Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
>
> They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
You would, however, still notice their activity afterwards. But maybe
they're so good that your money still appears to be present ...
Jens
Nov 28th 2006, 7:12 pm
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Tim C. wrote:
> The Intersport shop in St.Anton/Arlberg charges between �37 and �47
> per day for a set.
Well ... That's St. Anton. :-) My girlfriend bought a pretty good
pair of brand new skis in February in Hochgurgl for 95 euro including
bindings and adjustment. They came in the 2005 design, but who cares?
Jens
> The Intersport shop in St.Anton/Arlberg charges between �37 and �47
> per day for a set.
Well ... That's St. Anton. :-) My girlfriend bought a pretty good
pair of brand new skis in February in Hochgurgl for 95 euro including
bindings and adjustment. They came in the 2005 design, but who cares?
Jens
Nov 28th 2006, 7:23 pm
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Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>Tim C. wrote:
>> Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>>>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>>>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
>>
>> They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
>You would, however, still notice their activity afterwards. But maybe
>they're so good that your money still appears to be present ...
I said they were good.
--
Tim C.
>Tim C. wrote:
>> Following up to Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> :
>>>In nearly 30 years of using ATMs in Germany and Austria, I have't seen
>>>any of those dangerous pickpockets.
>>
>> They're professionals, you won't see them they're too good. ;-)
>You would, however, still notice their activity afterwards. But maybe
>they're so good that your money still appears to be present ...
I said they were good.
--
Tim C.
Nov 28th 2006, 7:26 pm
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tile wrote:
> still it is nice not to have any speed limit..
In 2 % of the cases provided by reality, it is. In the rest, it's
much better for your nerves and wallet to set cruise control at 140
km/h and let ist roll.
According to my trip computer, I am regularly driving a higher average
speed on Austrian autobahns (with speed limit) than on German
autobahns (without speed limit).
Jens
> still it is nice not to have any speed limit..
In 2 % of the cases provided by reality, it is. In the rest, it's
much better for your nerves and wallet to set cruise control at 140
km/h and let ist roll.
According to my trip computer, I am regularly driving a higher average
speed on Austrian autobahns (with speed limit) than on German
autobahns (without speed limit).
Jens
Nov 28th 2006, 7:29 pm
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Following up to "tile" <[email protected]> :
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
<pedantic mode on>
I think you meant "km/h" not "kms". ;-)
<pedantic mode off>
You might find this interesting.
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/
--
Tim C.
>pls note that in Germany there are NORMALLY no speed limits on Autobahnen..
>so if you want to experience driving a car at 250 kms.. you might do it.
<pedantic mode on>
I think you meant "km/h" not "kms". ;-)
<pedantic mode off>
You might find this interesting.
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/
--
Tim C.
