Don't drink the water, on the planes that is!
Jan 21st 2005, 5:12 am
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Re: Don't drink the water, on the planes that is!
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:07:56 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
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>nitram wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:25 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The Reids wrote:
>>>>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>>>>In England the tap water is filtered, chlorinated and potable.
>>>>>Maybe, but that doesn't matter if it's not the source of the water
>>>>>supplied on trains.
>>>>where else would they get it? There isn't a non potable water
>>>>supply in UK as far as I know.
>>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>>quickly become non potable.
>>
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> Britain chlorinates water for this reason.
>But, unless you seal it off airtight, the clorination will drop off.
>That can be a problem in aircraft tanks. The water is fine when
>refilled but then goes bad if it stands around.
Yes, except Jack soaked his dentures on a train. I expect a train's
water tanks aren't open to the outside world, but with UK plumbing who
know?
I use chlorination tablets in my boat's water tank, the water stays
fresh for months.
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>nitram wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:25 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The Reids wrote:
>>>>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>>>>In England the tap water is filtered, chlorinated and potable.
>>>>>Maybe, but that doesn't matter if it's not the source of the water
>>>>>supplied on trains.
>>>>where else would they get it? There isn't a non potable water
>>>>supply in UK as far as I know.
>>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>>quickly become non potable.
>>
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> Britain chlorinates water for this reason.
>But, unless you seal it off airtight, the clorination will drop off.
>That can be a problem in aircraft tanks. The water is fine when
>refilled but then goes bad if it stands around.
Yes, except Jack soaked his dentures on a train. I expect a train's
water tanks aren't open to the outside world, but with UK plumbing who
know?
I use chlorination tablets in my boat's water tank, the water stays
fresh for months.
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Martin
Jan 21st 2005, 7:20 am
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Re: Don't drink the water, on the planes that is!
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:05:46 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
How many?
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>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
How many?
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Jan 21st 2005, 7:48 am
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:20:55 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:05:46 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>How many?
Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
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wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:05:46 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>How many?
Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
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Martin
Jan 21st 2005, 8:08 am
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John Bermont writes:
> Brush with vodka. It kills all the germs.
Ethanol in beverages isn't strong enough to do that.
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> Brush with vodka. It kills all the germs.
Ethanol in beverages isn't strong enough to do that.
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Jan 21st 2005, 8:10 am
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Frank F. Matthews writes:
> Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
> quickly become non potable.
That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
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> Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
> quickly become non potable.
That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
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Jan 21st 2005, 10:03 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> John Bermont writes:
>
>
>>Brush with vodka. It kills all the germs.
>
>
> Ethanol in beverages isn't strong enough to do that.
>
So putting some wine in the water to help prevent disease was just a
fantasy? 40% alcohol won't do the trick. You've got some strong bugs.
> John Bermont writes:
>
>
>>Brush with vodka. It kills all the germs.
>
>
> Ethanol in beverages isn't strong enough to do that.
>
So putting some wine in the water to help prevent disease was just a
fantasy? 40% alcohol won't do the trick. You've got some strong bugs.
Jan 21st 2005, 10:07 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Frank F. Matthews writes:
>
>
>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>quickly become non potable.
>
>
> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
>
Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop. If you start with
preserving chemicals or a weird environment like very tannic water you
are OK but water with no preservatives I don't think so.
> Frank F. Matthews writes:
>
>
>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>quickly become non potable.
>
>
> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
>
Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop. If you start with
preserving chemicals or a weird environment like very tannic water you
are OK but water with no preservatives I don't think so.
Jan 21st 2005, 2:59 pm
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> Frank F. Matthews writes:
> > Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
> > quickly become non potable.
> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
and in the right container you can heat it in a microwave for 3 minutes and
watch water explode.
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> Frank F. Matthews writes:
> > Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
> > quickly become non potable.
> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
and in the right container you can heat it in a microwave for 3 minutes and
watch water explode.
Jan 21st 2005, 7:04 pm
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Frank F. Matthews writes:
> So putting some wine in the water to help prevent disease was just a
> fantasy?
Yes. It's a common misconception.
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> So putting some wine in the water to help prevent disease was just a
> fantasy?
Yes. It's a common misconception.
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Jan 21st 2005, 7:04 pm
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Frank F. Matthews writes:
> Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
> multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
> would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop.
Explain how UHT milk can stay fresh on the shelf for six months, then.
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> Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
> multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
> would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop.
Explain how UHT milk can stay fresh on the shelf for six months, then.
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Jan 21st 2005, 8:33 pm
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:07:52 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Frank F. Matthews writes:
>>
>>
>>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>>quickly become non potable.
>>
>>
>> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
>>
>Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
>multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
>would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop. If you start with
>preserving chemicals or a weird environment like very tannic water you
>are OK but water with no preservatives I don't think so.
Unless it's pasteurised.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Frank F. Matthews writes:
>>
>>
>>>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>>>quickly become non potable.
>>
>>
>> That depends on the type of container in which it is kept.
>>
>Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
>multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
>would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop. If you start with
>preserving chemicals or a weird environment like very tannic water you
>are OK but water with no preservatives I don't think so.
Unless it's pasteurised.
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Jan 21st 2005, 10:30 pm
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Following up to Frank F. Matthews
>>>Maybe, but that doesn't matter if it's not the source of the water
>>>supplied on trains.
>>
>>
>> where else would they get it? There isn't a non potable water
>> supply in UK as far as I know.
>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>quickly become non potable.
Agreed, just wished to exclude the "source" red herring.
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>>>Maybe, but that doesn't matter if it's not the source of the water
>>>supplied on trains.
>>
>>
>> where else would they get it? There isn't a non potable water
>> supply in UK as far as I know.
>Unless it is well fortified with preserving chemicals potable water can
>quickly become non potable.
Agreed, just wished to exclude the "source" red herring.
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Jan 21st 2005, 10:30 pm
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
>> multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
>> would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop.
>Explain how UHT milk can stay fresh on the shelf for six months, then.
the answer is in your question.
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>> Not really. There are usually a small number of bugs around which will
>> multiply rapidly. Even with an airtight container I think that there
>> would be enough dissolved oxygen for a good bug crop.
>Explain how UHT milk can stay fresh on the shelf for six months, then.
the answer is in your question.
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Jan 21st 2005, 10:30 pm
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Following up to nitram
>>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>>How many?
>Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
any numbers? Compared with alcohol drinkers?
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>>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>>How many?
>Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
any numbers? Compared with alcohol drinkers?
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Jan 21st 2005, 10:43 pm
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:30:43 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to nitram
>>>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>>>How many?
>>Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
>any numbers? Compared with alcohol drinkers?
OK I have googled and I suspect that my Dutch dentist is wrong.
The 4000 fatal cases of cancer of the mouth in UK are claimed to be
caused by alcohol and tobacco abuse.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to nitram
>>>>If they knew how many Brit.s get cancer of the mouth by using alcohol
>>>>based mouthwash, nobody would buy mouth wash.
>>>How many?
>>Much more than anywhere else in the EU.
>any numbers? Compared with alcohol drinkers?
OK I have googled and I suspect that my Dutch dentist is wrong.
The 4000 fatal cases of cancer of the mouth in UK are claimed to be
caused by alcohol and tobacco abuse.
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Martin
