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Old Feb 25th 2003 | 8:13 am
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John Stolz
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Terry Richards wrote in message
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    > Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    > embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this. It
    > seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3
months
    > before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test
today,
    > the dog couldn't travel until late May.
    > Has anybody taken a dog into France since last October? Apparently, that's
    > when the regulations changed due to France attaining rabies-free status.
    > Thanks,
    > Terry & Kathie Richards.
France has rabies-free status? Seems unlikely.
 
Old Feb 26th 2003 | 4:04 am
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Terry Richards
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Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this. It
seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3 months
before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test today,
the dog couldn't travel until late May.

Has anybody taken a dog into France since last October? Apparently, that's
when the regulations changed due to France attaining rabies-free status.

Thanks,

Terry & Kathie Richards.
 
Old Feb 26th 2003 | 4:09 am
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le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:04:27 GMT, dans l'article , Terry Richards a dit ...

    > Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    > embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this. It
    > seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3 months
    > before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test today,
    > the dog couldn't travel until late May.

url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/13060406-FXIMP309.html
url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/1906020406-FXIMP309.html

I don't have the time to translate that just now, but if you can't
understand it, either someone here will translate it, or I can do so when I
get home this evening.

{ snip }

--
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Old Feb 26th 2003 | 5:29 am
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Terry Richards
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"Desmond Coughlan" wrote in message
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    > le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:04:27 GMT, dans l'article
, Terry Richards
a dit ...
    > > Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    > > embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this.
It
    > > seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3
months
    > > before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test
today,
    > > the dog couldn't travel until late May.
    > url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/13060406-FXIMP309.html
    > url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/1906020406-FXIMP309.html
    > I don't have the time to translate that just now, but if you can't
    > understand it, either someone here will translate it, or I can do so when
I
    > get home this evening.
    > { snip }
    > --
    > Desmond Coughlan
    > desmond @ zeouane.org
    > http: // www . zeouane . org

Desmond,

I can read it just fine. Unfortunately, it says something completely
different to the embassy's web site

Thanks,

Terry.
 
Old Feb 26th 2003 | 7:54 am
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le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:51:51 +0000, dans l'article , Donna Evleth a dit ...

{ snip }

    > The size of the animal is important, too. Our dogs have always been small
    > enough to travel with us in the cabin. As was our friend's cat. This way
    > if there is trouble, you know about it right away and can argue.

This is encouraging ... we planned to have a short visit to Scotland in
2004, and wanted to take our cats, but the idea of drugging them, and
throwing them into the hold, was traumatic. Now I'm reassured. :-)

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Old Feb 26th 2003 | 8:11 am
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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
    >
    > le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:51:51 +0000, dans l'article , Donna Evleth a dit ...
    >
    > { snip }
    >
    > > The size of the animal is important, too. Our dogs have always been small
    > > enough to travel with us in the cabin. As was our friend's cat. This way
    > > if there is trouble, you know about it right away and can argue.
    >
    > This is encouraging ... we planned to have a short visit to Scotland in
    > 2004, and wanted to take our cats, but the idea of drugging them, and
    > throwing them into the hold, was traumatic. Now I'm reassured. :-)
    >
The regulations for taking your animals to Scotland may be a bit more
complicated than those for taking them into France.
 
Old Feb 26th 2003 | 8:51 am
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Dans l'article ,
"Terry Richards" a écrit :


    > "Desmond Coughlan" wrote in message
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    >> le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:04:27 GMT, dans l'article
    > , Terry Richards
    > a dit ...
    >> > Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    >> > embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this.
    > It
    >> > seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3
    > months
    >> > before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test
    > today,
    >> > the dog couldn't travel until late May.
    >> url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/13060406-FXIMP309.html
    >> url:http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/ARBO/1906020406-FXIMP309.html
    >> I don't have the time to translate that just now, but if you can't
    >> understand it, either someone here will translate it, or I can do so when
    > I
    >> get home this evening.
    >> { snip }
    >> --
    >> Desmond Coughlan
    >> desmond @ zeouane.org
    >> http: // www . zeouane . org
    > Desmond,
    > I can read it just fine. Unfortunately, it says something completely
    > different to the embassy's web site
    > Thanks,
    > Terry.

We have not brought a dog to France from the US for a while, but it would
surprise me mightily if the rules had changed.

The last time we did this, in the 1980s, all we needed was a current rabies
vaccination, and a certificate of good health. One caution: in France
rabies certificates must be issued every year. In the US at that time - I
don't know now - they were only issued every three years.

We never had any trouble. Nor did our friend who brought her cat in the
1990s, later than we.

The size of the animal is important, too. Our dogs have always been small
enough to travel with us in the cabin. As was our friend's cat. This way
if there is trouble, you know about it right away and can argue.

Donna Evleth
    >
 
Old Feb 26th 2003 | 9:40 am
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le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:11:09 -0500, dans l'article , S Viemeister a dit ...

    >> > The size of the animal is important, too. Our dogs have always been small
    >> > enough to travel with us in the cabin. As was our friend's cat. This way
    >> > if there is trouble, you know about it right away and can argue.

    >> This is encouraging ... we planned to have a short visit to Scotland in
    >> 2004, and wanted to take our cats, but the idea of drugging them, and
    >> throwing them into the hold, was traumatic. Now I'm reassured. :-)

    > The regulations for taking your animals to Scotland may be a bit more
    > complicated than those for taking them into France.

No, I think that the UK has some sort of 'pet passport' scheme now. In any
case, it was the hold issue that was worrying us. :-)

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Old Feb 26th 2003 | 1:39 pm
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On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:54:38 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
wrote:

    >le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:51:51 +0000, dans l'article , Donna Evleth a dit ...
    >{ snip }
    >> The size of the animal is important, too. Our dogs have always been small
    >> enough to travel with us in the cabin. As was our friend's cat. This way
    >> if there is trouble, you know about it right away and can argue.
    >This is encouraging ... we planned to have a short visit to Scotland in
    >2004, and wanted to take our cats, but the idea of drugging them, and
    >throwing them into the hold, was traumatic. Now I'm reassured. :-)

Be sure to check with the specific airline, though--it's my
understanding that some of them allow only one animal in the cabin per
flight.
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 12:55 am
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in article [email protected] .net, Terry
Richards at [email protected] wrote on 26/02/03 18:04:

    > Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    > embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this. It
    > seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3 months
    > before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test today,
    > the dog couldn't travel until late May.
    >
    > Has anybody taken a dog into France since last October? Apparently, that's
    > when the regulations changed due to France attaining rabies-free status.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Terry & Kathie Richards.


Rabies shots have to been within one year. You should have the papers
for this. Get a health certificate also.

We use to regularly take our dog back and forth from France to the USA
without problems, most of the time coming into France the authorities
pay no attention. Going back to the US is tougher and they will
look at the papers.

Rabies shots in the US are once every three years, but they are once
a year here in France. Have your shots up to date anyway but
rabies is really the one they are interested in.

In France, if you miss the yearly shot you have to have the two shot
sequence again.

I don`t remember a "3 month rule", the French are generally not
that nitpicky. If you have the papers to show they will
just pass your through.

If you bring a small dog, hand carried on the plane, it is likely
the authorities will never talk with you.

The US is considered safe, French customs people tend to yawn when you
go by them.

Earl
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 1:57 am
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"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
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    > I don`t remember a "3 month rule", the French are generally not
    > that nitpicky. If you have the papers to show they will
    > just pass your through.

    > The US is considered safe, French customs people tend to yawn when you
    > go by them.

Last time we did this, I had to chase down a customs officer and trap him in
a corner before they would look at our papers

We won't bother again, we will just walk through the green lane and let
them stop us if they feel so inclined. However, the one time we try it
without the right paperwork will be the one time we run into M. Zealous on
his first day on the job

T.
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 2:19 am
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Earl Evleth wrote:
    > in article [email protected] .net, Terry
    > Richards at [email protected] wrote on 26/02/03 18:04:
    >
    >
    >>Does anybody know the current rules about this? We have checked with the
    >>embassy web site and they seem to have changed since we last did this. It
    >>seems to say that our dog needs to have a blood test not less than 3 months
    >>before we travel. We interpret that to mean that, if we got the test today,
    >>the dog couldn't travel until late May.
    >>Has anybody taken a dog into France since last October? Apparently, that's
    >>when the regulations changed due to France attaining rabies-free status.
    >>Thanks,
    >>Terry & Kathie Richards.
    >
    >
    >
    > Rabies shots have to been within one year. You should have the papers
    > for this. Get a health certificate also.
    >
    > We use to regularly take our dog back and forth from France to the USA
    > without problems, most of the time coming into France the authorities
    > pay no attention. Going back to the US is tougher and they will
    > look at the papers.
    >
    > Rabies shots in the US are once every three years, but they are once
    > a year here in France. Have your shots up to date anyway but
    > rabies is really the one they are interested in.
    >
    > In France, if you miss the yearly shot you have to have the two shot
    > sequence again.
    >
    > I don`t remember a "3 month rule", the French are generally not
    > that nitpicky. If you have the papers to show they will
    > just pass your through.
    >
    > If you bring a small dog, hand carried on the plane, it is likely
    > the authorities will never talk with you.


How about if your are bringing a large dog? I'd like to hear fom anyone
who's done this. I worry about the poor thing being in a crate for so
long.
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 5:14 am
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Terry Richards
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"ellie" wrote in message
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    > How about if your are bringing a large dog? I'd like to hear fom anyone
    > who's done this. I worry about the poor thing being in a crate for so
    > long.

We did that last time (and a large cat). It wasn't a big problem at all. You
can read about it here:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kragsdale/France4_1.htm

It's in the section entitled "The Amazing Traveling Circus"

T.
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 12:08 pm
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Terry Richards wrote:
    > "ellie" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >>How about if your are bringing a large dog? I'd like to hear fom anyone
    >>who's done this. I worry about the poor thing being in a crate for so
    >>long.
    >
    >
    > We did that last time (and a large cat). It wasn't a big problem at all. You
    > can read about it here:
    >
    > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kragsdale/France4_1.htm
    >
    > It's in the section entitled "The Amazing Traveling Circus"
    >
    > T.
    >
    >

Thanks! Sounds like a traveling circus indeed. 8^)
 
Old Feb 27th 2003 | 1:22 pm
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:14:23 GMT, "Terry Richards"
wrote:

    >"ellie" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> How about if your are bringing a large dog? I'd like to hear fom anyone
    >> who's done this. I worry about the poor thing being in a crate for so
    >> long.
    >We did that last time (and a large cat). It wasn't a big problem at all. You
    >can read about it here:
    >http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kragsdale/France4_1.htm
    >It's in the section entitled "The Amazing Traveling Circus"

It's fun to read about your experience. Believe it or not, one time
years ago at CDG I actually did see a dog in a carrier come through on
the baggage belt!
 


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