Do French Women tend to be less endowed than other Women?
Jan 10th 2004, 11:17 am
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Andromoda893 writes:
> By the way, when you talk about French Women being flat
> do you mean the French women in France or French Women
> in general?
That's pretty much the same thing. If their ancestry is largely
metropolitan French, they tend to have small- to medium-sized breasts.
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> By the way, when you talk about French Women being flat
> do you mean the French women in France or French Women
> in general?
That's pretty much the same thing. If their ancestry is largely
metropolitan French, they tend to have small- to medium-sized breasts.
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Jan 10th 2004, 2:26 pm
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On 10/01/04 13:14, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> An interesting side point is that many people feel that Blacks in America
>> are taller, on the average than Whites. This impression is gathered from
>> watching basketball.
>
> They _are_ very slightly taller. That's why they are so much more
> prominent in basketball. A slight difference in mean height translates
> to a large difference at the upper and lower extremes of height, so even
> though the average heights aren't too much different, the tallest people
> are slightly more likely to be black.
Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
The study showed that the mean height for Whites and Blacks was 69.5 and
69.3 respectively, with Mexican Americans around 66.8.
If one is looking for tall Whites and Blacks, the 95th percentile
of each group, the numbers are the same, the 74.1 and 74.1 inches.
Hélas, Maxi, your expertise is challenged. :-)
None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I assume
that you are writing off the top of your head.
You know the web has good research resources. Try and use them.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> An interesting side point is that many people feel that Blacks in America
>> are taller, on the average than Whites. This impression is gathered from
>> watching basketball.
>
> They _are_ very slightly taller. That's why they are so much more
> prominent in basketball. A slight difference in mean height translates
> to a large difference at the upper and lower extremes of height, so even
> though the average heights aren't too much different, the tallest people
> are slightly more likely to be black.
Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
The study showed that the mean height for Whites and Blacks was 69.5 and
69.3 respectively, with Mexican Americans around 66.8.
If one is looking for tall Whites and Blacks, the 95th percentile
of each group, the numbers are the same, the 74.1 and 74.1 inches.
Hélas, Maxi, your expertise is challenged. :-)
None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I assume
that you are writing off the top of your head.
You know the web has good research resources. Try and use them.
Earl
Jan 10th 2004, 2:32 pm
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On 10/01/04 13:16, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The natural odors are pleasant-smelling to human beings. It's the odors
> produced by bacteria in people who just don't wash often enough that can
> become very rank and unpleasant. Even someone who is squeaky clean will
> have some odor, but it won't be an unpleasant odor.
Years ago Scientific American had a long article on skin ecology
and I remember that a problem with over washing is that is changes the pH
of the skin and actually promotes staf infections.
I expect that there is a optimum washing frequency, too much or too little
will produce problems.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The natural odors are pleasant-smelling to human beings. It's the odors
> produced by bacteria in people who just don't wash often enough that can
> become very rank and unpleasant. Even someone who is squeaky clean will
> have some odor, but it won't be an unpleasant odor.
Years ago Scientific American had a long article on skin ecology
and I remember that a problem with over washing is that is changes the pH
of the skin and actually promotes staf infections.
I expect that there is a optimum washing frequency, too much or too little
will produce problems.
Earl
Jan 10th 2004, 3:19 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:40:57 +0100, Magda wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... and walk more.
> ...
> ... walk to the market
> ...
> ... walk to the metro
> ...
> ... walk to the office (from the metro)
>
> Climb stairs.
I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
(Or are we back to the Freud thread?)
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... and walk more.
> ...
> ... walk to the market
> ...
> ... walk to the metro
> ...
> ... walk to the office (from the metro)
>
> Climb stairs.
I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
(Or are we back to the Freud thread?)
Jan 10th 2004, 3:47 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:14:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
> devil writes:
>
>> Tiny microcosm?
>
> Yes, a tiny microcosm of Europe that reflected the warped upbringings of
> some parts of European society (e.g., in Vienna).
You have not read the man, have you? After going thru "The Interpretation
of Dreams," (not necessarily the exact title), I started looking at the
folks around in a different way. An eye opener, believe me.
What percentage of (say American) females do you think truly enjoy sex? To
what extent does guilt stand in the way?
What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
respect? (Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
sex to make her a mother.)
> devil writes:
>
>> Tiny microcosm?
>
> Yes, a tiny microcosm of Europe that reflected the warped upbringings of
> some parts of European society (e.g., in Vienna).
You have not read the man, have you? After going thru "The Interpretation
of Dreams," (not necessarily the exact title), I started looking at the
folks around in a different way. An eye opener, believe me.
What percentage of (say American) females do you think truly enjoy sex? To
what extent does guilt stand in the way?
What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
respect? (Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
sex to make her a mother.)
Jan 10th 2004, 4:07 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:19:47 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, devil <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:40:57 +0100, Magda wrote:
...
... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... > electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... and walk more.
... > ...
... > ... walk to the market
... > ...
... > ... walk to the metro
... > ...
... > ... walk to the office (from the metro)
... >
... > Climb stairs.
...
... I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:40:57 +0100, Magda wrote:
...
... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... > electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... and walk more.
... > ...
... > ... walk to the market
... > ...
... > ... walk to the metro
... > ...
... > ... walk to the office (from the metro)
... >
... > Climb stairs.
...
... I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
Jan 10th 2004, 5:16 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:07:09 +0100, Magda wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:19:47 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, devil <[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:40:57 +0100, Magda wrote:
> ...
> ... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... > electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... and walk more.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the market
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the metro
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the office (from the metro)
> ... >
> ... > Climb stairs.
> ...
> ... I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
>
> Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
No. I mentioned soft drinks *for a start.*
(Not sure sex is a viable proposition until reaching a reasonable shape
first?)
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:19:47 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, devil <[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:40:57 +0100, Magda wrote:
> ...
> ... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:16:03 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... > electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... and walk more.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the market
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the metro
> ... > ...
> ... > ... walk to the office (from the metro)
> ... >
> ... > Climb stairs.
> ...
> ... I am surprised no one has mentioned yet having sex once in a while.
>
> Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
No. I mentioned soft drinks *for a start.*
(Not sure sex is a viable proposition until reaching a reasonable shape
first?)
Jan 10th 2004, 5:29 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:47:26 GMT, devil <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:14:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> devil writes:
>>
>>> Tiny microcosm?
>>
>> Yes, a tiny microcosm of Europe that reflected the warped upbringings of
>> some parts of European society (e.g., in Vienna).
>You have not read the man, have you? After going thru "The Interpretation
>of Dreams," (not necessarily the exact title), I started looking at the
>folks around in a different way. An eye opener, believe me.
>What percentage of (say American) females do you think truly enjoy sex? To
>what extent does guilt stand in the way?
>What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
>respect? (Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
>sex to make her a mother.)
Might be worth having a read of the books of Alice Miller, a Swiss
psychotherapist who thinks that some of Freud's theories were ways of
him denying the reality of sexual abuse of his female clients..
Try "For Your Own Good"
"The Drama of the Gifted Child"
>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:14:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> devil writes:
>>
>>> Tiny microcosm?
>>
>> Yes, a tiny microcosm of Europe that reflected the warped upbringings of
>> some parts of European society (e.g., in Vienna).
>You have not read the man, have you? After going thru "The Interpretation
>of Dreams," (not necessarily the exact title), I started looking at the
>folks around in a different way. An eye opener, believe me.
>What percentage of (say American) females do you think truly enjoy sex? To
>what extent does guilt stand in the way?
>What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
>respect? (Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
>sex to make her a mother.)
Might be worth having a read of the books of Alice Miller, a Swiss
psychotherapist who thinks that some of Freud's theories were ways of
him denying the reality of sexual abuse of his female clients..
Try "For Your Own Good"
"The Drama of the Gifted Child"
Jan 10th 2004, 5:51 pm
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:16:33 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, devil <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
...
... No. I mentioned soft drinks *for a start.*
Chipoteur.
... (Not sure sex is a viable proposition until reaching a reasonable shape
... first?)
It depends on the degree of their horniness, I suppose. "Não tem tu, vai tu mesmo"... ;-)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > Well, you only mentioned soft drinks !
...
... No. I mentioned soft drinks *for a start.*
Chipoteur.
... (Not sure sex is a viable proposition until reaching a reasonable shape
... first?)
It depends on the degree of their horniness, I suppose. "Não tem tu, vai tu mesmo"... ;-)
Jan 10th 2004, 6:29 pm
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Earl Evleth writes:
> Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
I never see any reason to, and I don't record references, anyway.
> One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
The sample is extremely small, and the methodology is not given.
> None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I assume
> that you are writing off the top of your head.
I'm writing from memory.
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> Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
I never see any reason to, and I don't record references, anyway.
> One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
The sample is extremely small, and the methodology is not given.
> None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I assume
> that you are writing off the top of your head.
I'm writing from memory.
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Jan 10th 2004, 6:31 pm
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devil writes:
> You have not read the man, have you?
A _long_ time ago, I did, although not very much. He was hugely
influenced by his own psychological problems, and he was reassured in
his analyses by the similar problems of those around him. But many of
his findings are not generally applicable.
> What percentage of (say American) females do you think
> truly enjoy sex?
I've never seen any figures I'd consider reliable.
> What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
> respect?
What sort of performance are they giving?
> Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
> sex to make her a mother.
Have you read _Worlds in Collision_?
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> You have not read the man, have you?
A _long_ time ago, I did, although not very much. He was hugely
influenced by his own psychological problems, and he was reassured in
his analyses by the similar problems of those around him. But many of
his findings are not generally applicable.
> What percentage of (say American) females do you think
> truly enjoy sex?
I've never seen any figures I'd consider reliable.
> What percentage of the boys are unable to perform with a female whom they
> respect?
What sort of performance are they giving?
> Reconciling "purity" of the mother figure and the necessity of
> sex to make her a mother.
Have you read _Worlds in Collision_?
--
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Jan 10th 2004, 7:45 pm
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On 10/1/04 10:51 am, in article [email protected],
"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:53:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Jeremy Henderson
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... On 10/1/04 1:36 am, in article [email protected],
> ... "pmlt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > Alright perhaps I'm the one who knows almost all the exceptions to the
> ... > anthropological stereotype. Nordic women are taller, that's a fact.
> ... > That makes them have longer legs, that's a consequence of the first
> ... > one. About breasts, natural ones, you'll find a bit of everything
> ... > everywhere. My statement is not "anthropological" but maybe like said
> ... > I just know the exceptions.
> ...
> ... I'll make a definite point of making the appropriate
> ... anthropologically-inspired observations in future ...
> ...
> ... J;
>
> You misspelled "experiences", maybe ?
I wish. In an alternate universe maybe ...
J;
"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:53:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Jeremy Henderson
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>
> ... On 10/1/04 1:36 am, in article [email protected],
> ... "pmlt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > Alright perhaps I'm the one who knows almost all the exceptions to the
> ... > anthropological stereotype. Nordic women are taller, that's a fact.
> ... > That makes them have longer legs, that's a consequence of the first
> ... > one. About breasts, natural ones, you'll find a bit of everything
> ... > everywhere. My statement is not "anthropological" but maybe like said
> ... > I just know the exceptions.
> ...
> ... I'll make a definite point of making the appropriate
> ... anthropologically-inspired observations in future ...
> ...
> ... J;
>
> You misspelled "experiences", maybe ?
I wish. In an alternate universe maybe ...
J;
Jan 10th 2004, 7:52 pm
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On 10/1/04 1:14 pm, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
> No, this is true as well. American blacks tend to be slightly larger,
> heavier, and taller than American whites. Not all blacks in this world
> are this way, but perhaps American blacks are descended from slaves who
> were selected specifically for these characteristics. In any case, the
> advantages of this small general difference in the extreme case of
> athletics is obvious.
Maybe I'm just living in ignorance and prejudice here, but I would have
thought it obvious that there are differences between races that have
implications for sports. For example Ethiopians and Kenyans dominating long
distance running. West Africans (and their descendents?) seem to be heavier
built and do better in sprints.
>> Even so, one notices today, there are not great black cyclists?
[...]
>> Are they not physically fitted for being great cyclists?
I can imagine that West Africans are possibly not (and swimming, too?),
since lightness is an advantage, but also there is a social aspect -
different sports have different attractions to different ethnic groups.
J;
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
> No, this is true as well. American blacks tend to be slightly larger,
> heavier, and taller than American whites. Not all blacks in this world
> are this way, but perhaps American blacks are descended from slaves who
> were selected specifically for these characteristics. In any case, the
> advantages of this small general difference in the extreme case of
> athletics is obvious.
Maybe I'm just living in ignorance and prejudice here, but I would have
thought it obvious that there are differences between races that have
implications for sports. For example Ethiopians and Kenyans dominating long
distance running. West Africans (and their descendents?) seem to be heavier
built and do better in sprints.
>> Even so, one notices today, there are not great black cyclists?
[...]
>> Are they not physically fitted for being great cyclists?
I can imagine that West Africans are possibly not (and swimming, too?),
since lightness is an advantage, but also there is a social aspect -
different sports have different attractions to different ethnic groups.
J;
Jan 10th 2004, 7:55 pm
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[email protected] wrote:
> Hi,
> but then why in the pics of him with american and british officers is he
> of "average" height?
You must be thinking of someone else. I have seen lots of pictures of
DeGaulle with other generals and he was always much taller than the others.
> >>... (so are most of the men... look at pics
> >>of General deGaulle walking in the crowds and he stands a full head
> >>taller than the masses) ...
> >
> >
> > He was very tall.
> Hi,
> but then why in the pics of him with american and british officers is he
> of "average" height?
You must be thinking of someone else. I have seen lots of pictures of
DeGaulle with other generals and he was always much taller than the others.
> >>... (so are most of the men... look at pics
> >>of General deGaulle walking in the crowds and he stands a full head
> >>taller than the masses) ...
> >
> >
> > He was very tall.
Jan 10th 2004, 8:01 pm
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On 10/01/04 20:29, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
>
> I never see any reason to, and I don't record references, anyway.
You don`t have too, many are accessible by the web. The one I cited
I had posted before, so I had it at hand. Not in my files but
a google group search and a key word will bring up immediately
that information.
Basically, Maxi, you don`t seem to be organized.
>> One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
>> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
>
> The sample is extremely small, and the methodology is not given.
It is CDC data, and I seem to remember the methodology given?
Basically, this data is not recorded by a Fed Gov agency on a regular
basis so a large number of Whites and Blacks are not monitored
and that makes the data weak.
>> None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I
assume
>> that you are writing off the top of your head.
>
> I'm writing from memory.
Memory if faulty and plastic, it changes with time.
I am married to a woman who keeps a personal diary and has for
over 40 years. A number of times she has pointed out where I
have fused memories, alterned them etc. So I depend a lot on
the internet, or from my personal library to keep my flying
straighter.
Next, we have a personal friend, another academic, who has done
a lot of research on race and sports.
His basic conclusion is that there is a lot of myth involved in
supposing that a certain race is naturally superior are this or that.
Lets take the current idea that east Africans are better natural runners
than anybody else in the world. True or not true?
In this area, get you grains of salt out, they will be useful.
Earl
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Maxi, you never reference your stuff!
>
> I never see any reason to, and I don't record references, anyway.
You don`t have too, many are accessible by the web. The one I cited
I had posted before, so I had it at hand. Not in my files but
a google group search and a key word will bring up immediately
that information.
Basically, Maxi, you don`t seem to be organized.
>> One set of numbers for the USA is given in.
>> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/hgtmal.pdf Looking at 20 and over.
>
> The sample is extremely small, and the methodology is not given.
It is CDC data, and I seem to remember the methodology given?
Basically, this data is not recorded by a Fed Gov agency on a regular
basis so a large number of Whites and Blacks are not monitored
and that makes the data weak.
>> None of what your wrote afterwards (or before) was documented to I
assume
>> that you are writing off the top of your head.
>
> I'm writing from memory.
Memory if faulty and plastic, it changes with time.
I am married to a woman who keeps a personal diary and has for
over 40 years. A number of times she has pointed out where I
have fused memories, alterned them etc. So I depend a lot on
the internet, or from my personal library to keep my flying
straighter.
Next, we have a personal friend, another academic, who has done
a lot of research on race and sports.
His basic conclusion is that there is a lot of myth involved in
supposing that a certain race is naturally superior are this or that.
Lets take the current idea that east Africans are better natural runners
than anybody else in the world. True or not true?
In this area, get you grains of salt out, they will be useful.
Earl
Earl