Martin

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:43:02 +0000 (UTC), BB
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:01:27 +0100, tim(yet another new home) wrote:
    >> What's the american version of Castle?
    >He's assuming that Americans don't know what a castle is and believe that
    >all castles look like Disneyland, because they sometimes refer to
    >Neuschwanstein as a "castle". Its most likely just sarcasm (I would hope).
    >The postcards sold at Neuschwanstein's visitor's center label the palace
    >as "Royal Castle Neuschwanstein" and the English title bar of the official
    >homepage shows it as "Neuschwanstein Castle", so apparenly the Germans
    >don't know what a castle is either. There's a BBC writeup on the "castle"
    >that doesn't even mention that its not really a castle, so apparently some
    >Brits don't know either.
    >Maybe it if wasn't built to look sort of like a castle, people wouldn't
    >call it that.

Well said!

Schloss Linderhof looks nothing like a castle, but ... :-)
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Martin

Martin

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:31:22 +0200, Kristian <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Giovanni Drogo <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, BB wrote:
    >>> The postcards sold at Neuschwanstein's visitor's center label the palace
    >>> as "Royal Castle Neuschwanstein" and the English title bar of the official
    >>> homepage shows it as "Neuschwanstein Castle", so apparenly the Germans
    >>> don't know what a castle is either.
    >>Germans have at least two words for "castle", Schloss (compare Danish
    >>"slott") and Burg (not to talk of Veste and Festung which are probably
    >>more alike to "fortress"), neither of which is of latin origin. There is
    >>also "Palast" (do not know the Danish equivalent, in Norway is
    >>"pale-et") which is obviously related to "palace".
    >The Danish terms are equivalent to the German: Slot or Borg
    >(Schloss,Burg). In common use the distinction is not very clear. You
    >have Amalienborg Slot, Rosenborg Slot etc. The term "Palads" or
    >"Palace" is only used for non-Danish palaces like Versailles,
    >Beckingham Palace (little joke..he,he) etc.

<chuckles>

On German websites Schloss is used for both castles and palaces.
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Martin

Jeremyrh Geo

Dave Smith wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some
    > > Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark.
    > >
    > > What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible.
    > >
    > > Train? rent a car? Bus?
    > >
    > I didn't think that Denmark was particularly famous for castles but the
    > Kronborg castle in Elsinore is within walking distance of the train
    > station, or a very short taxi ride.

Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride
from Copenhagen.

B;

Kristian

[email protected] wrote:

    >Dave Smith wrote:
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >> > We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some
    >> > Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark.
    >> >
    >> > What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible.
    >> >
    >> > Train? rent a car? Bus?
    >> >
    >> I didn't think that Denmark was particularly famous for castles but the
    >> Kronborg castle in Elsinore is within walking distance of the train
    >> station, or a very short taxi ride.
    >Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride
    >from Copenhagen.
    >B;

You must referring to Hammershus dating back to the 12th century:
(txt in Danish)

http://www.sns.dk/fortidsm/netpub/ha...hammershus.htm

Just to confuse the terms even more, Hammershus is often referred to
as a "faestning" (Festnung/Fortress).
--
Kristian

patrick1971

[email protected] wrote:
    > We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some
    > Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark.
    > What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible.
    > Train? rent a car? Bus?

Like others, I'd definitely recommend Kronborg in Elsinore. Easily
accessible by train and not over-touristed; it's very easy to picture
it as a working castle, as it's out on a promontory into the ocean.
That same train line from Copenhagen to Elsinore passes some very
attractive beaches as well.

Patrick

Jeremyrh Geo

Kristian wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >Dave Smith wrote:
    > >> [email protected] wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some
    > >> > Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark.
    > >> >
    > >> > What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible.
    > >> >
    > >> > Train? rent a car? Bus?
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> I didn't think that Denmark was particularly famous for castles but the
    > >> Kronborg castle in Elsinore is within walking distance of the train
    > >> station, or a very short taxi ride.
    > >
    > >Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride
    > >from Copenhagen.
    > >
    > >B;
    > You must referring to Hammershus dating back to the 12th century:
    > (txt in Danish)
    > http://www.sns.dk/fortidsm/netpub/ha...hammershus.htm

Yes - that's it - thanks. Much more impressive than Helsingor in my
opinion !! :-)

B;

Dave Smith

[email protected] wrote:

    > > Train? rent a car? Bus?
    > Like others, I'd definitely recommend Kronborg in Elsinore. Easily
    > accessible by train and not over-touristed; it's very easy to picture
    > it as a working castle, as it's out on a promontory into the ocean.
    > That same train line from Copenhagen to Elsinore passes some very
    > attractive beaches as well.

It was certainly a nice drive by car. The rail way runs alongside the
road most of the way. We had a nice buffet meal in the train station at
Elsinore. I had heard that they had good food and reasonably prices at the
train stations, but that was the only one we ate in. It was pretty good.

Erilar

In article <[email protected]. com>,
[email protected] wrote:

    > Dave Smith wrote:
    > > [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > > > We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some
    > > > Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark.
    > > >
    > > > What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible.
    > > >
    > > > Train? rent a car? Bus?
    > > >
    > >
    > > I didn't think that Denmark was particularly famous for castles but the
    > > Kronborg castle in Elsinore is within walking distance of the train
    > > station, or a very short taxi ride.
    >
    > Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride
    > from Copenhagen.

It's a great ruin 8-) And the island is nice. I wouldn't advise a
canoe, either, though.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar),
philologist, biblioholic medievalist

http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

Erilar

    > > You must referring to Hammershus dating back to the 12th century:
    > > (txt in Danish)
    > >
    > > http://www.sns.dk/fortidsm/netpub/ha...hammershus.htm
    >
    > Yes - that's it - thanks. Much more impressive than Helsingor in my
    > opinion !! :-)
    >

And definitely a REAL castle!

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar),
philologist, biblioholic medievalist

http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

Giovanni Drogo

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, erilar wrote:

    > > Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride
    > > from Copenhagen.
    >
    > I wouldn't advise a canoe, either, though.

It should be doable by bike if you put the bike on a train. When I had
to go from Copenhagen to Kastrup airport, the first train departing was
indicated on some displays as going to Bornholm (which is obviously
impossible, it was just connecting with a ferry in some place in
southern Sweden), while the internal displays carried the name of some
other place unknown to me (I asked several times passengers and
conductors for confirmation the train will stop at the airport).

The train had an entire car with an open space where people put luggage,
bikes (lots of them), and even prams with children inside (my mother was
quite upset seeing that).

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On 2006-09-18, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I arrived at the hotel after
    > 10 pm. got settled in, then went ot park the car in the garage, so it
    > was closer to 11 pm when I left it. I picked it up shortly after 8 am
    > and the charge for overnight was 165 Kroner, about $45 at the time.

You should point out that those weren't US dollars.

Magda

On 01 Oct 2006 19:40:05 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Jesper Lauridsen
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On 2006-09-18, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
... > I arrived at the hotel after
... > 10 pm. got settled in, then went ot park the car in the garage, so it
... > was closer to 11 pm when I left it. I picked it up shortly after 8 am
... > and the charge for overnight was 165 Kroner, about $45 at the time.
...
... You should point out that those weren't US dollars.

Lest we forget that there are other countries on this planet...

Dave Smith

Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

    > On 2006-09-18, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > I arrived at the hotel after
    > > 10 pm. got settled in, then went ot park the car in the garage, so it
    > > was closer to 11 pm when I left it. I picked it up shortly after 8 am
    > > and the charge for overnight was 165 Kroner, about $45 at the time.
    > You should point out that those weren't US dollars.

Why? You were swift enough to realize I was referring to Canadian dollars,
but even at the current exchange rates it would have been considered to be
expensive to Americans if in American dollars, which at the time would have
made it more than $30 US to park overnight. FWIW, the most expensive
parking in Canada would probably be in Toronto, and the same year I paid
$12 per day (24 hours) for parking, compared to $45 to park overnight. I
think it was the same year that we stayed overnight at my SiL's in Toronto
and paid $5 (Cdn.) for overnight parking.

It doesn't really matter if it is Canadian or American dollars, Those of us
who are used to spending them would find 165 Kroner expensive for overnight
parking.