'Da Vinci Code' to be shot inside Louvre
Jan 24th 2005, 3:34 am
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Re: 'Da Vinci Code' to be shot inside Louvre
in article [email protected], nitram at
[email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 17:00:
> On TV 5 they sometimes show films/programs with foreign language
> subtitles, but never with English subtitles.
Subtitles come in handy if one's hearing is poor. I go in Friday to get
a hearing aid, and begin a period of adaptation to using it.
Even in some American films I look the French subtitles since I
am not quite sure what they said in English.
I feel disconcerted when a film has several nationalities speaking
and they all are speaking "French", mostly dubbed. The authenticity
of a war film is higher if the Germans are speaking Germans, the French
French and the English speakers English.
My wife once worked on a film in which they doing the subtitle script.
It is not easy since they have limited space to work in so they have
to contract the spoken language and get the point across. Next
is having a person who know both language well so that the right
word is selected for the script.
Earl
[email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 17:00:
> On TV 5 they sometimes show films/programs with foreign language
> subtitles, but never with English subtitles.
Subtitles come in handy if one's hearing is poor. I go in Friday to get
a hearing aid, and begin a period of adaptation to using it.
Even in some American films I look the French subtitles since I
am not quite sure what they said in English.
I feel disconcerted when a film has several nationalities speaking
and they all are speaking "French", mostly dubbed. The authenticity
of a war film is higher if the Germans are speaking Germans, the French
French and the English speakers English.
My wife once worked on a film in which they doing the subtitle script.
It is not easy since they have limited space to work in so they have
to contract the spoken language and get the point across. Next
is having a person who know both language well so that the right
word is selected for the script.
Earl
Jan 24th 2005, 4:51 am
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Re: 'Da Vinci Code' to be shot inside Louvre
poldy writes:
> Does French tourism depend on American movies?
No more than it depends on having the Olympics in Paris in 2012.
> Despite the cool relations between France and the US, I thought France
> still remained a top destination, even to Americans?
France is the most popular tourist destination in the world, and Paris
is the most popular destination city for tourists. France is also the
country for which people search most often on Google, oddly enough.
> Anyways, there are plenty of American movies set in France all the time,
> aren't they?
Set in, perhaps, but not filmed in. For example, the film _Moulin
Rouge_ was shot entirely in Australia--it never came anywhere close to
France.
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> Does French tourism depend on American movies?
No more than it depends on having the Olympics in Paris in 2012.
> Despite the cool relations between France and the US, I thought France
> still remained a top destination, even to Americans?
France is the most popular tourist destination in the world, and Paris
is the most popular destination city for tourists. France is also the
country for which people search most often on Google, oddly enough.
> Anyways, there are plenty of American movies set in France all the time,
> aren't they?
Set in, perhaps, but not filmed in. For example, the film _Moulin
Rouge_ was shot entirely in Australia--it never came anywhere close to
France.
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Jan 24th 2005, 4:53 am
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Earl Evleth writes:
> While the key French characters in the
> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
add color, though.
I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
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> While the key French characters in the
> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
add color, though.
I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
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Jan 24th 2005, 4:54 am
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Earl Evleth writes:
> French TV have them all the time. I am now use to John Wayne speaking
> French! Naturally they used a deep throated French voice, not squeeky.
I was surprised to hear Jean-Paul Belmondo's high, squeaky voice for the
first time, after years of hearing it dubbed in a macho-sounding English
voice.
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> French TV have them all the time. I am now use to John Wayne speaking
> French! Naturally they used a deep throated French voice, not squeeky.
I was surprised to hear Jean-Paul Belmondo's high, squeaky voice for the
first time, after years of hearing it dubbed in a macho-sounding English
voice.
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Jan 24th 2005, 5:39 am
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On 2005-01-24 18:53:30 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> While the key French characters in the
>> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>
> I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
> people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
> Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
> add color, though.
>
> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
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> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> While the key French characters in the
>> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>
> I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
> people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
> Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
> add color, though.
>
> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
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Jan 24th 2005, 5:53 am
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in article [email protected], The Rev Gaston at [email protected]
wrote on 24/01/05 19:39:
>> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
>> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
>
> Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
They are usually coached so well with their lines that really speaking the
language is not important.
The best way to learn another language is with a lover. Yves Montand
practiced his English with Marilyn Monroe, much to the dismay of
Simone. The lessons were temporary and he drifted back home.
Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
is willing to tutor.
Earl
PS I forgot where I left those pills.
wrote on 24/01/05 19:39:
>> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
>> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
>
> Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
They are usually coached so well with their lines that really speaking the
language is not important.
The best way to learn another language is with a lover. Yves Montand
practiced his English with Marilyn Monroe, much to the dismay of
Simone. The lessons were temporary and he drifted back home.
Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
is willing to tutor.
Earl
PS I forgot where I left those pills.
Jan 24th 2005, 6:12 am
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On 2005-01-24 19:53:14 +0100, Earl Evleth <[email protected]> said:
> Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> is willing to tutor.
Take a number, Earl!
Woof, woof!!!
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> Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> is willing to tutor.
Take a number, Earl!
Woof, woof!!!
G;
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Jan 24th 2005, 6:40 am
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:53:14 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... in article [email protected], The Rev Gaston at [email protected]
... wrote on 24/01/05 19:39:
...
... >> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
... >> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
... >
... > Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
...
...
... They are usually coached so well with their lines that really speaking the
... language is not important.
...
... The best way to learn another language is with a lover. Yves Montand
... practiced his English with Marilyn Monroe, much to the dismay of
... Simone. The lessons were temporary and he drifted back home.
...
... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
... is willing to tutor.
Did we miss the cake ??
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... in article [email protected], The Rev Gaston at [email protected]
... wrote on 24/01/05 19:39:
...
... >> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
... >> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
... >
... > Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
...
...
... They are usually coached so well with their lines that really speaking the
... language is not important.
...
... The best way to learn another language is with a lover. Yves Montand
... practiced his English with Marilyn Monroe, much to the dismay of
... Simone. The lessons were temporary and he drifted back home.
...
... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
... is willing to tutor.
Did we miss the cake ??
Jan 24th 2005, 9:01 pm
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:39:21 +0100, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 2005-01-24 18:53:30 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
>> Earl Evleth writes:
>>
>>> While the key French characters in the
>>> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>>> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>>> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>
>> I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
>> people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
>> Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
>> add color, though.
>>
>> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
>> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
>Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
No marrow bone jelly for you, you bad dog.
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wrote:
>On 2005-01-24 18:53:30 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
>> Earl Evleth writes:
>>
>>> While the key French characters in the
>>> film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>>> the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>>> with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>
>> I expect everyone to speak English, as per Hollywood norms. French
>> people in the film will simply speak English with a French accent.
>> Minor characters and/or unimportant dialog may actually be in French to
>> add color, though.
>>
>> I'm curious as to how well Audrey Tautou can speak English, if she is
>> indeed playing Sophie Neveu.
>Audrey Tautou ... mmmmmmmm !!!!!!!
No marrow bone jelly for you, you bad dog.
--
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Jan 25th 2005, 1:27 am
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in article [email protected], Magda at
[email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
> ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> ... is willing to tutor.
>
> Did we miss the cake ??
People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
earl
[email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
> ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> ... is willing to tutor.
>
> Did we miss the cake ??
People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
earl
Jan 25th 2005, 1:34 am
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:03:15 +0100, nitram wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:55:05 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:30:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ...
>> ... Curiously the key academic of the De Vinci Code also does not speak French.
>> ... Most American academics who specialize in something like art history would
>> ... probably speak some French, however. While the key French characters in the
>> ... film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>> ... the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>> ... with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>Like seeing "Novecento" in English... that was hard. :(((
>
> I hate dubbed films. I much prefer the alternative - original sound
> track with subtitles.
Yea, Mr Bean in German is awful. ;-)
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> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:55:05 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:30:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>> ...
>> ... Curiously the key academic of the De Vinci Code also does not speak French.
>> ... Most American academics who specialize in something like art history would
>> ... probably speak some French, however. While the key French characters in the
>> ... film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>> ... the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>> ... with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>Like seeing "Novecento" in English... that was hard. :(((
>
> I hate dubbed films. I much prefer the alternative - original sound
> track with subtitles.
Yea, Mr Bean in German is awful. ;-)
--
Tim C.
Jan 25th 2005, 1:57 am
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:27:14 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... in article [email protected], Magda at
... [email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
...
... > ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
... > ... is willing to tutor.
... >
... > Did we miss the cake ??
...
... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
What infamy ? Where ?
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... in article [email protected], Magda at
... [email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
...
... > ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
... > ... is willing to tutor.
... >
... > Did we miss the cake ??
...
... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
What infamy ? Where ?
Jan 25th 2005, 2:40 am
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in article [email protected], Magda at
[email protected] wrote on 25/01/05 15:57:
> ... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
>
> What infamy ? Where ?
>
The day that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt gave
a stiring speech about the attack, asking for a declaration of
war.
It began---
"Yesterday, December 7,1941 - a date which will live in infamy -- The United
States was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the
Empire of Japan."
It was my 10th birthday, since then I have had to share it.
Earl
[email protected] wrote on 25/01/05 15:57:
> ... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
>
> What infamy ? Where ?
>
The day that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt gave
a stiring speech about the attack, asking for a declaration of
war.
It began---
"Yesterday, December 7,1941 - a date which will live in infamy -- The United
States was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the
Empire of Japan."
It was my 10th birthday, since then I have had to share it.
Earl
Jan 25th 2005, 3:27 am
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:34:36 +0100, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:03:15 +0100, nitram wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:55:05 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:30:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>>> ...
>>> ... Curiously the key academic of the De Vinci Code also does not speak French.
>>> ... Most American academics who specialize in something like art history would
>>> ... probably speak some French, however. While the key French characters in the
>>> ... film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>>> ... the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>>> ... with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>>Like seeing "Novecento" in English... that was hard. :(((
>>
>> I hate dubbed films. I much prefer the alternative - original sound
>> track with subtitles.
>Yea, Mr Bean in German is awful. ;-)
After 50 showings.
Benny Hill with Dutch subtitles took some beating. The guy doing the
subtitles substituted his own jokes, sometimes better than the
original usually worse.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:03:15 +0100, nitram wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:55:05 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:30:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
>>> ...
>>> ... Curiously the key academic of the De Vinci Code also does not speak French.
>>> ... Most American academics who specialize in something like art history would
>>> ... probably speak some French, however. While the key French characters in the
>>> ... film will speak English in the film I am wondering what they will do with
>>> ... the run of the mill French people also in the film. I would prefer French
>>> ... with a few English subtitles to give it authenticity.
>>>Like seeing "Novecento" in English... that was hard. :(((
>>
>> I hate dubbed films. I much prefer the alternative - original sound
>> track with subtitles.
>Yea, Mr Bean in German is awful. ;-)
After 50 showings.
Benny Hill with Dutch subtitles took some beating. The guy doing the
subtitles substituted his own jokes, sometimes better than the
original usually worse.
--
Martin
Jan 25th 2005, 3:46 am
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:57:02 +0100, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:27:14 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... in article [email protected], Magda at
> ... [email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
> ...
> ... > ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> ... > ... is willing to tutor.
> ... >
> ... > Did we miss the cake ??
> ...
> ... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
>What infamy ? Where ?
Dec 7th was the day before we got married. Should I have taken the
easy option?
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wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:27:14 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... in article [email protected], Magda at
> ... [email protected] wrote on 24/01/05 20:40:
> ...
> ... > ... Now if Audrey needs English lessons, I know this 73 yr old American who
> ... > ... is willing to tutor.
> ... >
> ... > Did we miss the cake ??
> ...
> ... People rarely celebrate my birthday. It is Dec 7th, the day of infamy.
>What infamy ? Where ?
Dec 7th was the day before we got married. Should I have taken the
easy option?
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Martin
