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Old Jun 24th 2004, 2:48 pm
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Wong
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Hi!
I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
hotels.
Thank you for your help.

W.
 
Old Jun 24th 2004, 2:54 pm
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Tim Challenger
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:48:19 -0600, Wong wrote:

    > Hi!
    > I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    > I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
    > hotels.


When talking about hotels I wouldn't know what "curfew" means.

"Lockout" is the time they lock the hotel doors for the night. That means
you either have to be back in the hotel by then, or take your room/hotel
key with you so you can get in. After this time, and you don't have a key,
you'll have to wake the owners/porter to come and unlock the door for you.
Sometimes there is an extra charge for this.

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Old Jun 24th 2004, 3:28 pm
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"Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi!
    > I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    > I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
    > hotels.

For hostels, they are times that:

Curfew: You must be in by that hour, or you will be locked out for the
night. Most hostels have NO provisions for late return after that time.

Lockout: Hours, usually during the middle of the day, when you must vacate
the hostel. This allows both staff breaks, and time to clean and do
maintenance without people in the way.
 
Old Jun 24th 2004, 7:33 pm
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:28:12 -0400, "None" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Hi!
    >> I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    >> I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
    >> hotels.
    >For hostels, they are times that:
    >Curfew: You must be in by that hour, or you will be locked out for the
    >night. Most hostels have NO provisions for late return after that time.
    >Lockout: Hours, usually during the middle of the day, when you must vacate
    >the hostel. This allows both staff breaks, and time to clean and do
    >maintenance without people in the way.

This is correct, and the lockout can be a great inconvenience in
countries like Italy where things close down mid day and most people
take a short rest. It means basically that once you go out in the A.M.
you are unable to return to your hostel until around 4 P.M.
 
Old Jun 25th 2004, 4:48 am
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Rita wrote:

    > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:28:12 -0400, "None" <[email protected]> wrote:
.
    >>For hostels, they are times that:
    >>Curfew: You must be in by that hour, or you will be locked out for the
    >>night. Most hostels have NO provisions for late return after that time.
    >>Lockout: Hours, usually during the middle of the day, when you must vacate
    >>the hostel. This allows both staff breaks, and time to clean and do
    >>maintenance without people in the way.
    >
    >
    > This is correct, and the lockout can be a great inconvenience in
    > countries like Italy where things close down mid day and most people
    > take a short rest. It means basically that once you go out in the A.M.
    > you are unable to return to your hostel until around 4 P.M.

I know hostels are less expensive, but I think I'll stick to three star
hotels! (What seems an "adventure" when one is young becomes a major
hardship when one is elderly.)


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Old Jun 25th 2004, 5:57 am
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Rita
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:48:27 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Rita wrote:
    >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:28:12 -0400, "None" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >.
    >>>For hostels, they are times that:
    >>>Curfew: You must be in by that hour, or you will be locked out for the
    >>>night. Most hostels have NO provisions for late return after that time.
    >>>Lockout: Hours, usually during the middle of the day, when you must vacate
    >>>the hostel. This allows both staff breaks, and time to clean and do
    >>>maintenance without people in the way.
    >>
    >>
    >> This is correct, and the lockout can be a great inconvenience in
    >> countries like Italy where things close down mid day and most people
    >> take a short rest. It means basically that once you go out in the A.M.
    >> you are unable to return to your hostel until around 4 P.M.
    >I know hostels are less expensive, but I think I'll stick to three star
    >hotels! (What seems an "adventure" when one is young becomes a major
    >hardship when one is elderly.)
It is not a matter of adventure but of being able to visit Europe for much
longer periods on the same money -- I used hostels from age 55 to age
70. The hostels I chose either did not have lockouts or had very brief
ones. At $20 US a night, I was able to travel for a month on what those
who stay in 3 star hotels could easily spend in a week. A lockout was
not a big deal in Paris, but I'd prefer not to have one in Italy. Paris
does not close down mid day as Italy does. It is a matter of shopping
around among hostels. A 3 star hotel is not the least important to me.
I don't travel to spend time in a hotel. Had I limited myself to these, I
would have been able to see far, far less of Europe than I have.
 
Old Jun 25th 2004, 6:29 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

    > What seems an "adventure" when one is young becomes a major
    > hardship when one is elderly.

I've always considered it a major hardship, irrespective of my age.
It's largely a question of personality, too.

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Old Jun 25th 2004, 6:30 am
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Rita writes:

    > It is not a matter of adventure but of being able to visit Europe for much
    > longer periods on the same money ...

Same thing.

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Old Jun 25th 2004, 11:02 am
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"Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Hi!
    > I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    > I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
    > hotels.

Must be in by <curfew> or you will be subject to a <lock-out>. Both of
which I find completely unacceptable unless all keys are provided by
the hotel. Which is why I often trade such niceities as "character"
and "friendliness" of the small hotels for anonymity of the chains.

I was in Blackpool (UK) when I was younger and given a lecture by ´the
landlady of a guesthouse about not just lockout, but all manner of
unacceptable behaviour, which included but was not limited to:
music,noise,visitors (or lack thereof), flushing the toilet;taking
showers at night..

My response was literally to move to the hotel next door where, even
if such draconian rules were in force, I was at least not subject to
the prenight briefing...
Dave


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Old Jun 25th 2004, 1:53 pm
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David <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Hi!
    > > I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    > > I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking about
    > > hotels.
    > Must be in by <curfew> or you will be subject to a <lock-out>. Both of
    > which I find completely unacceptable unless all keys are provided by
    > the hotel. Which is why I often trade such niceities as "character"
    > and "friendliness" of the small hotels for anonymity of the chains.
    > I was in Blackpool (UK) when I was younger and given a lecture by ´the
    > landlady of a guesthouse about not just lockout, but all manner of
    > unacceptable behaviour, which included but was not limited to:
    > music,noise,visitors (or lack thereof), flushing the toilet;taking
    > showers at night..
    > My response was literally to move to the hotel next door where, even
    > if such draconian rules were in force, I was at least not subject to
    > the prenight briefing...

Reminds me of when I and my girlfriend in the late 1950s. tried to take a
holiday together in Scotland (from London).
BR refused to let us be in the same sleeper (with two other travellers
unknown to us)!
The hotel, on request, had given us adjoining room numbers. But they had
'cottoned on'. I went up the left central staircase, my girlfriend up the
right, and at the top we each circled back to our rooms. They were together
but about half-an-hour's walk away!

Surreyman
 
Old Jun 25th 2004, 7:19 pm
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Tim Kroesen
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I found the 'lockout' at my Rome hostel no inconvenience whatsoever
since I knew the rules in advance... Side benefit:clean linen and
bathrooms every day...

I think something can be found to do in Rome most every afternoon
between 1 and 4... Personally I observed no afternoon 'siesta' there
BTW...

Tim K

"Rita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:28:12 -0400, "None" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >"Wong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> Hi!
    > >> I am a novice, my english is not all that complete.
    > >> I don't know what "curfew" and "lockout" times mean when talking
about
    > >> hotels.
    > >
    > >For hostels, they are times that:
    > >
    > >Curfew: You must be in by that hour, or you will be locked out for
the
    > >night. Most hostels have NO provisions for late return after that
time.
    > >
    > >Lockout: Hours, usually during the middle of the day, when you must
vacate
    > >the hostel. This allows both staff breaks, and time to clean and do
    > >maintenance without people in the way.
    > This is correct, and the lockout can be a great inconvenience in
    > countries like Italy where things close down mid day and most people
    > take a short rest. It means basically that once you go out in the
A.M.
    > you are unable to return to your hostel until around 4 P.M.
    > >
 
Old Jun 26th 2004, 12:00 pm
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a.spencer3 <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Reminds me of when I and my girlfriend in the late 1950s. tried to take a
    > holiday together in Scotland (from London).
    > BR refused to let us be in the same sleeper (with two other travellers
    > unknown to us)!
    > The hotel, on request, had given us adjoining room numbers. But they had
    > 'cottoned on'. I went up the left central staircase, my girlfriend up the
    > right, and at the top we each circled back to our rooms. They were together
    > but about half-an-hour's walk away!

And did the innkeeper send Manuel and Polly up to spy on you to see whether
you were paying each other late-night visits?

miguel
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Old Jun 30th 2004, 3:06 pm
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Jesper Lauridsen
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On 2004-06-25, a.spencer3 <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Reminds me of when I and my girlfriend in the late 1950s. tried to take a
    > holiday together in Scotland (from London).
    > BR refused to let us be in the same sleeper (with two other travellers
    > unknown to us)!

If the shared sleepers are separated by sex, then that seems very reasonable.
 

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