Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration

http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

Carole Allen writes:

    > Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration
    >
    > http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

Interesting, but it doesn't seem like very much in exchange for the
billions of dollars that the space exploration cost.

Had all the money been applied exclusively to research, the gains
would have been much greater. There are a fair number of spinoffs of
NASA activity that have proved useful in other domains, but there are
also zillions of things that have no application at all outside the
space program. Even the items cited on this list are only vaguely
related to the original applications of space exploration.

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:55:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Carole Allen writes:
    >> Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration
    >>
    >> http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml
    >Interesting, but it doesn't seem like very much in exchange for the
    >billions of dollars that the space exploration cost.

but better value than all the wars the USA has involved itself in
since 1957.

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:59:57 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:55:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >>Carole Allen writes:
    >>> Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration
    >>>
    >>> http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

"Ear Thermometer
Instead of measuring temperature using a column of mercury (which
expands as it heats up), this thermometer has a lens like a camera and
detects infrared energy, which we feel as heat. The warmer something
is (like your body), the more infrared energy it puts out. This
technology was originally developed to detect the birth of stars."

Unlike a normal mercury thermometer it reads high if one has been
wearing headphones just before a measurement is taken.
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"Carole Allen" <[email protected]> wrote


    > Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration




Have a look at

http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarsha...MoonWalkers.rm



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Martin writes:

    > but better value than all the wars the USA has involved itself in
    > since 1957.

Perhaps neither war nor space exploration are the best ways to carry
out useful research.

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:02:41 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:59:57 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:55:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>>Carole Allen writes:
    >>>> Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration
    >>>>
    >>>> http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml
    >"Ear Thermometer
    >Instead of measuring temperature using a column of mercury (which
    >expands as it heats up), this thermometer has a lens like a camera and
    >detects infrared energy, which we feel as heat. The warmer something
    >is (like your body), the more infrared energy it puts out. This
    >technology was originally developed to detect the birth of stars."
    >Unlike a normal mercury thermometer it reads high if one has been
    >wearing headphones just before a measurement is taken.

ORAL thermometer, not Earal.
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:13:50 +0000 (UTC), "Knight Of The Road"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Carole Allen" <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Hey Mixi - here are some spin-off benefits from space exploration
    >Have a look at
    >http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarsha...MoonWalkers.rm

I couldn't get that to play on anything. Another codec issue I can
only assume.
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But they are Two ways that *have* added useful research to the human
knowledge base in an accelerated manner. For example; how much
worldwide energy demand is met via atomic fission and past war research
projects? Is RADAR useful? Is SONAR useful? 'Perhaps' research based
solely on war/defense applications alone have *already* yielded greater
benefit than your supposed 'think tank' of scientists.

Tim K

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    > Martin writes:
    > > but better value than all the wars the USA has involved itself in
    > > since 1957.
    > Perhaps neither war nor space exploration are the best ways to carry
    > out useful research.
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Timothy Kroesen writes:

    > But they are Two ways that *have* added useful research to the human
    > knowledge base in an accelerated manner. For example; how much
    > worldwide energy demand is met via atomic fission and past war research
    > projects? Is RADAR useful? Is SONAR useful? 'Perhaps' research based
    > solely on war/defense applications alone have *already* yielded greater
    > benefit than your supposed 'think tank' of scientists.

The only way in which the military has helped the overall advance of
technology is by providing funding. It's a sad fact that it's often
very difficult to find any funding for peaceful research, but it's
easy to find funding once one comes up with some sort of potential
military application for the research. The military developments are
often useless for the civilian world, but since it's hard to get any
money at all for a project if it doesn't have a military application,
the cash flow from the military drives what little research is carried
out.

If, say, the CDC got the same amount of money as the DoD to spend on
research, you can bet that the research thus funded would provide far
greater benefits on a per-dollar basis than the military would.

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Thank You for making my point...

Tim K

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    > Timothy Kroesen writes:
    > > But they are Two ways that *have* added useful research to the human
    > > knowledge base in an accelerated manner. For example; how much
    > > worldwide energy demand is met via atomic fission and past war
research
    > > projects? Is RADAR useful? Is SONAR useful? 'Perhaps' research
based
    > > solely on war/defense applications alone have *already* yielded
greater
    > > benefit than your supposed 'think tank' of scientists.
    > The only way in which the military has helped the overall advance of
    > technology is by providing funding. It's a sad fact that it's often
    > very difficult to find any funding for peaceful research, but it's
    > easy to find funding once one comes up with some sort of potential
    > military application for the research. ....

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:12:07 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Timothy Kroesen writes:
    >> But they are Two ways that *have* added useful research to the human
    >> knowledge base in an accelerated manner. For example; how much
    >> worldwide energy demand is met via atomic fission and past war research
    >> projects? Is RADAR useful? Is SONAR useful? 'Perhaps' research based
    >> solely on war/defense applications alone have *already* yielded greater
    >> benefit than your supposed 'think tank' of scientists.
    >The only way in which the military has helped the overall advance of
    >technology is by providing funding. It's a sad fact that it's often
    >very difficult to find any funding for peaceful research, but it's
    >easy to find funding once one comes up with some sort of potential
    >military application for the research. The military developments are
    >often useless for the civilian world, but since it's hard to get any
    >money at all for a project if it doesn't have a military application,
    >the cash flow from the military drives what little research is carried
    >out.
    >If, say, the CDC got the same amount of money as the DoD to spend on
    >research, you can bet that the research thus funded would provide far
    >greater benefits on a per-dollar basis than the military would.

And then your country would be overrun by anyone who saw your weak
point.

Weapons provide the ultimate negotiating tool, which is why the west
is damned determined not to let poorer countries get access to the
good ones.
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DDT Filled Mormons wrote:

    > Weapons provide the ultimate negotiating tool, which is why the west
    > is damned determined not to let poorer countries get access to the
    > good ones.


Yep, it's true DFM...besides which the little brown peoples of the world are
not yet quite responsible enough to be entrusted with advanced weapons...

Heck they can't even feed their own people, so why do they even need any
weapons? They should be grateful for all the freebies we give 'em and sit
down and shut up. The only words I want to hear out of their mouths are
words of *gratitude*...

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