Cologne: seamans mission?
Jan 5th 2005, 11:15 pm
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Cologne: seamans mission?
I stayed in the seamans mission in Antwerp last year. Great value
budget accommodation with cheap restaurant and bar. Open to general
tourists.
Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
by the river front. Anyone know if it is open to general tourists. Any
web site?
Thanks
Bruce
budget accommodation with cheap restaurant and bar. Open to general
tourists.
Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
by the river front. Anyone know if it is open to general tourists. Any
web site?
Thanks
Bruce
Jan 6th 2005, 1:55 am
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
> by the river front.
Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
accroding to their webside:
http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church", but
they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
Regards,
Frank
> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
> by the river front.
Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
accroding to their webside:
http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church", but
they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
Regards,
Frank
Jan 6th 2005, 2:03 am
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:55:56 +0100, Frank Hucklenbroich
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>> by the river front.
>Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
>accroding to their webside:
>http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
>there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
but there is one in Duisburg and Bremen
spot the typo
"The Bremer Seamen´s Mission,
- the oldest seamen´s mission in Germany.
In 1854, more than 150 years ago, the Bremer ship owner Vietor
grounded a home for sailors and ship´s boys."
>At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church", but
>they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
except during services?
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Martin
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>Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>> by the river front.
>Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
>accroding to their webside:
>http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
>there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
but there is one in Duisburg and Bremen
spot the typo
"The Bremer Seamen´s Mission,
- the oldest seamen´s mission in Germany.
In 1854, more than 150 years ago, the Bremer ship owner Vietor
grounded a home for sailors and ship´s boys."
>At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church", but
>they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
except during services?
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Martin
Jan 6th 2005, 2:05 am
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
Frank Hucklenbroich wrote:
> Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>> by the river front.
>
> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
> accroding to their webside:
> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
As you probably noticed, Cologne currently doesn't have any sea access
or international harbor. As soon as the polar ice will have melted,
this situation will possibly change and most probably a seamans mission
will then make sense even in Cologne.
Jens
> Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>> by the river front.
>
> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
> accroding to their webside:
> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
As you probably noticed, Cologne currently doesn't have any sea access
or international harbor. As soon as the polar ice will have melted,
this situation will possibly change and most probably a seamans mission
will then make sense even in Cologne.
Jens
Jan 6th 2005, 2:31 am
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
> > Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans
mission
> > by the river front.
> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
> accroding to their webside:
> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
> At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church",
but
> they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
Frank,
I recall seeing a modern building "on stilts" on Heumarkt, facing the
river, just past the Deutzer Brucke. Not far from the "Paulaner im
Roten Ochsen" pub.
I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
Bruce
mission
> > by the river front.
> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
> accroding to their webside:
> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
> At the river-front at the old-town I just recall a "sailors-church",
but
> they don't have places to sleep IIRC.
Frank,
I recall seeing a modern building "on stilts" on Heumarkt, facing the
river, just past the Deutzer Brucke. Not far from the "Paulaner im
Roten Ochsen" pub.
I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
Bruce
Jan 6th 2005, 2:32 am
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:05:30 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Frank Hucklenbroich wrote:
>> Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>>> by the river front.
>>
>> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
>> accroding to their webside:
>> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
>> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
>As you probably noticed, Cologne currently doesn't have any sea access
>or international harbor.
It has the same access to the sea as Duisburg, which has a Seaman's
mission.
Hint: Cargo boats carry stuff from the North Sea, as far as
Switzerland
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Frank Hucklenbroich wrote:
>> Am 6 Jan 2005 04:15:55 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
>>> Last time I was in Cologne (Koln), I seem to recall a seamans mission
>>> by the river front.
>>
>> Where should that be? I live in Cologne and never seen one there, and
>> accroding to their webside:
>> http://www.seemannsmission.org/index_besuch.htm
>> there's no seamans-mission in Cologne.
>As you probably noticed, Cologne currently doesn't have any sea access
>or international harbor.
It has the same access to the sea as Duisburg, which has a Seaman's
mission.
Hint: Cargo boats carry stuff from the North Sea, as far as
Switzerland
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Martin
Jan 6th 2005, 3:30 am
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nitram wrote:
> Duisburg, which has a Seaman's mission.
Duisburg has a "Protestant Bargeman's Service" (Evangelischer
Binnenschifferdienst). Due to tha fact that Duisburg has the world's
biggest inland port in the world, it has a special status with about
2,000 river and seagoing vessels up to 4,500 tons arriving there each
year. Therefore Duisburg's Binnenschifferdienst (a branch of the
Protestant Church of the Rhineland) is cooperating with Deutsche
Seemannsmission e.V.
There are no cooperations like this in other cities along the Rhine
river.
Jens
> Duisburg, which has a Seaman's mission.
Duisburg has a "Protestant Bargeman's Service" (Evangelischer
Binnenschifferdienst). Due to tha fact that Duisburg has the world's
biggest inland port in the world, it has a special status with about
2,000 river and seagoing vessels up to 4,500 tons arriving there each
year. Therefore Duisburg's Binnenschifferdienst (a branch of the
Protestant Church of the Rhineland) is cooperating with Deutsche
Seemannsmission e.V.
There are no cooperations like this in other cities along the Rhine
river.
Jens
Jan 6th 2005, 4:14 am
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:30:54 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> Duisburg, which has a Seaman's mission.
>Duisburg has a "Protestant Bargeman's Service" (Evangelischer
>Binnenschifferdienst). Due to tha fact that Duisburg has the world's
>biggest inland port in the world, it has a special status with about
>2,000 river and seagoing vessels up to 4,500 tons arriving there each
>year. Therefore Duisburg's Binnenschifferdienst (a branch of the
>Protestant Church of the Rhineland) is cooperating with Deutsche
>Seemannsmission e.V.
>There are no cooperations like this in other cities along the Rhine
>river.
but there are similar seamans missions in NL.
and your original point that there is no seaman's mission in Koln,
because it has no access to the sea is bollocks.
There is no seamans mission in Koln.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> Duisburg, which has a Seaman's mission.
>Duisburg has a "Protestant Bargeman's Service" (Evangelischer
>Binnenschifferdienst). Due to tha fact that Duisburg has the world's
>biggest inland port in the world, it has a special status with about
>2,000 river and seagoing vessels up to 4,500 tons arriving there each
>year. Therefore Duisburg's Binnenschifferdienst (a branch of the
>Protestant Church of the Rhineland) is cooperating with Deutsche
>Seemannsmission e.V.
>There are no cooperations like this in other cities along the Rhine
>river.
but there are similar seamans missions in NL.
and your original point that there is no seaman's mission in Koln,
because it has no access to the sea is bollocks.
There is no seamans mission in Koln.
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Martin
Jan 6th 2005, 8:09 am
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> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
> Bruce
Paulaner in Cologne?
Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
> Bruce
Paulaner in Cologne?
Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
Jan 6th 2005, 9:10 am
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:09:22 +0100, "sascha" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
>> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
>> Bruce
>Paulaner in Cologne?
>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
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Martin
>> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
>> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
>> Bruce
>Paulaner in Cologne?
>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
--
Martin
Jan 6th 2005, 9:31 am
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>>Paulaner in Cologne?
>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
That'd be globalisation at it's worst:-)
sascha
>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
That'd be globalisation at it's worst:-)
sascha
Jan 6th 2005, 9:36 am
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:31:06 +0100, "sascha" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Paulaner in Cologne?
>>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
>> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
>That'd be globalisation at it's worst:-)
It's bad enough already.
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>>>Paulaner in Cologne?
>>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
>> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
>That'd be globalisation at it's worst:-)
It's bad enough already.
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Martin
Jan 6th 2005, 7:46 pm
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nitram wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:09:22 +0100, "sascha" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Paulaner in Cologne?
>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
>
> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
Heineken is currently holding 49 % of BrauHolding, that owns Paulaner.
This way, they could kind of get around the regulations of the
Oktoberfest (Betriebsvorschiften für das Oktoberfest) that state:
| § 50
| [...] Das Oktoberfest ist das traditionelle Münchner Volksfest mit
| Münchner Gastlichkeit und Münchner Bier. Diese Tradition gilt es
| weiter zu wahren.
| An Wiesnbesucher darf deshalb nur Münchner Bier der leistungsfähigen
| und bewährten Traditionsbrauereien (das sind derzeit:
| Augustinerbrauerei, Hacker-Pschorrbrauerei, Löwenbrauerei,
| Paulanerbrauerei, Spatenbrauerei und Staatliches Hofbräuhaus), das
| dem Münchner Reinheitsgebot von 1487 und dem Deutschen Reinheitsgebot
| von 1906 entspricht, ausgeschenkt werden.
Have fun translating!
Jens
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:09:22 +0100, "sascha" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Paulaner in Cologne?
>>Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
>
> It'll be Heineken at the Oktoberfest next :-)
Heineken is currently holding 49 % of BrauHolding, that owns Paulaner.
This way, they could kind of get around the regulations of the
Oktoberfest (Betriebsvorschiften für das Oktoberfest) that state:
| § 50
| [...] Das Oktoberfest ist das traditionelle Münchner Volksfest mit
| Münchner Gastlichkeit und Münchner Bier. Diese Tradition gilt es
| weiter zu wahren.
| An Wiesnbesucher darf deshalb nur Münchner Bier der leistungsfähigen
| und bewährten Traditionsbrauereien (das sind derzeit:
| Augustinerbrauerei, Hacker-Pschorrbrauerei, Löwenbrauerei,
| Paulanerbrauerei, Spatenbrauerei und Staatliches Hofbräuhaus), das
| dem Münchner Reinheitsgebot von 1487 und dem Deutschen Reinheitsgebot
| von 1906 entspricht, ausgeschenkt werden.
Have fun translating!
Jens
Jan 6th 2005, 8:53 pm
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
Am 6 Jan 2005 07:31:58 -0800 schrieb [email protected]:
> Frank,
> I recall seeing a modern building "on stilts" on Heumarkt, facing the
> river, just past the Deutzer Brucke. Not far from the "Paulaner im
> Roten Ochsen" pub.
>
> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
I think it is the office of the "Köln-Düsseldorfer", that's the company
that runs the sight-seeing-boats on the Rhine.
IIRC there are waves or boats displayed on the rather large building, so I
think that's what you did mistake for a seaman's mission ;-)
Regards,
Frank
> Frank,
> I recall seeing a modern building "on stilts" on Heumarkt, facing the
> river, just past the Deutzer Brucke. Not far from the "Paulaner im
> Roten Ochsen" pub.
>
> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
I think it is the office of the "Köln-Düsseldorfer", that's the company
that runs the sight-seeing-boats on the Rhine.
IIRC there are waves or boats displayed on the rather large building, so I
think that's what you did mistake for a seaman's mission ;-)
Regards,
Frank
Jan 6th 2005, 8:55 pm
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Re: Cologne: seamans mission?
Am Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:09:22 +0100 schrieb sascha:
>> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
>> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
>> Bruce
> Paulaner in Cologne?
Yes, indeed, but just at that "Roter Ochsen" Pub (I think they do Bavarian
food there).
> Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
Okay, you can also get Guiness or Pilsener in Cologne - but its still manly
Koelsch.
Just never ever ask for "Altbier" ;-)
(That's the brew from neighbouring Dusseldorf, and there's some kind of
rivalry).
SCNR,
Frank
>> I thought it was a seamans mission. Maybe its just port offices -- I
>> must have had too much Paulaner (and kolsch) that day!
>> Bruce
> Paulaner in Cologne?
Yes, indeed, but just at that "Roter Ochsen" Pub (I think they do Bavarian
food there).
> Well it's not like in the old days anymore.
Okay, you can also get Guiness or Pilsener in Cologne - but its still manly
Koelsch.
Just never ever ask for "Altbier" ;-)
(That's the brew from neighbouring Dusseldorf, and there's some kind of
rivalry).
SCNR,
Frank
