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Old Nov 15th 2004, 3:39 pm
  #46  
Go Fig
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In article <[email protected]>, nobody <[email protected]>
wrote:

    > Did NBC show the proof they captured on video of the massacre being comitted
    > by americans in fallujah ?
    >
    >
    > BBC showed all but the actual shoting.

Fox show the shooting even, just blocking out that part of the screen.

    >
    > Essentially, americans returned to a mosque they had bombed before, and found
    > some people stil alive, unarmed, still breathing but not moving becase they
    > were badly injured,

You did NOT get this from the video footage, there was absolutely no
way to tell if they were alive or not.


    > and americans shot at least one in the head, supposedly
    > because they feared all iraqis are boobytrapped to explode.

There have also been reports by embedded reporters of people faking
death, waving 'white flags', only to open fire with their weapons...
does the BBC cover that ?

Do you have another standards for the 'insurgents', they aren't even
wearing an insignia.


jay
Mon Nov 15, 2004
mailto:[email protected]

    >
    > It is no wonder the americans don't want the red cross to enter fallujah since
    > they'd report on the widespread war crimes being committed.
    >
    > It is as if the young US soldiers were trained to act as if theis was a
    > glorified videogame and to shoot anything that moves.
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 3:43 pm
  #47  
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Jeff wrote:

    > "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Jeff wrote:
    >>>"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>>Roedy Green wrote:
    >>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:12:26 -0500, "Bush is the AntiChrist!! "
    >>>>><[email protected]> wrote or quoted :
    >>>>>>Rather it is so that public opinion is not affected. Ah got love that
    >>>>>>free media, which means they won't always show us what we have a right
    >>>>>>to see.
    >>>>>Notice how you never see a dead or maimed body on TV. Just pretty
    >>>>>explosions from a distance as if it were a fourth of July show.
    >>>>Exactly, ignorance allows neo-cons to sleep confortably at night.
    >>>If that is correct then commie-dems
    >>Commie? The conservatives have more in common with the communist party
    >>than the Democrats. Both Conservatives and Commies believe in a one
    >>party gov't, security over civil liberites, spying on their neighbors on
    >>behalf of the government etc.
    >
    >
    > Sorry Bub but you've been listening to the dem propagandist for far too
    > long. The Dems are the ones who favor government control of your whole life
    > (womb to tomb). Dems believe the average person is not smart enough to
    > handle his own money and that the government officials can run programs more
    > efficiently and compassionately.
    >

You really should have been watching what has been going on for the past
four years.

    >>The only thing that Communist and Dems loosely agree on is that the rich
    >>shouldn't benefit off the backs of the poor.
    >
    >
    > Yea, they both agree the poor aren't very smart and need to be constantly
    > chanelled by the rich. Only dommunist and Democrats the wealth is funnelled
    > to an elite group.
    >
    >>--
    >>The Best in Message Board Discussions
    >>http://www.comicboards.org/religion
    >> -----------------
    >>Bush is re-elected, fly the flag upside down!
    >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    >
    >
    >
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 4:13 pm
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Nobody
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Go Fig wrote:
    > > Essentially, americans returned to a mosque they had bombed before, and found
    > > some people stil alive, unarmed, still breathing but not moving becase they
    > > were badly injured,
    >
    > You did NOT get this from the video footage, there was absolutely no
    > way to tell if they were alive or not.

I guess FOX edited out the audio. It was quite clear that the person was alive.

I take it Fox said "job well done" about what the US soldiers did in that
mosque ?
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 4:23 pm
  #49  
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Melissa Wright writes:

    > Earlier you said it's a ban. Now you say it isn't. It is. It isn't. To
    > quote you, you said "now that _Saving Private Ryan_ has been banned from
    > television for its too-realistic depiction of the reality of war." [15 Nov
    > 2004 05:29:01 +0100 Absolutely false.

Not false in 20 markets.

    > Now you say it's censorship, and you are still wrong.

It is unquestionably censorship.

    > If the government had said "don't show ...Private Ryan," that
    > would have been censorship.

The government is not the only source of censorship.

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Old Nov 15th 2004, 4:25 pm
  #50  
Jeff
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"Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Jeff wrote:
    > > "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >>Jeff wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >>>news:[email protected]...
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>Roedy Green wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:12:26 -0500, "Bush is the AntiChrist!! "
    > >>>>><[email protected]> wrote or quoted :
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>Rather it is so that public opinion is not affected. Ah got love
that
    > >>>>>>free media, which means they won't always show us what we have a
right
    > >>>>>>to see.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>Notice how you never see a dead or maimed body on TV. Just pretty
    > >>>>>explosions from a distance as if it were a fourth of July show.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Exactly, ignorance allows neo-cons to sleep confortably at night.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>If that is correct then commie-dems
    > >>
    > >>Commie? The conservatives have more in common with the communist party
    > >>than the Democrats. Both Conservatives and Commies believe in a one
    > >>party gov't, security over civil liberites, spying on their neighbors on
    > >>behalf of the government etc.
    > >
    > >
    > > Sorry Bub but you've been listening to the dem propagandist for far too
    > > long. The Dems are the ones who favor government control of your whole
life
    > > (womb to tomb). Dems believe the average person is not smart enough to
    > > handle his own money and that the government officials can run programs
more
    > > efficiently and compassionately.
    > >
    > You really should have been watching what has been going on for the past
    > four years.

I've been more aware then any other time in my life.
    > >>The only thing that Communist and Dems loosely agree on is that the rich
    > >>shouldn't benefit off the backs of the poor.
    > >
    > >
    > > Yea, they both agree the poor aren't very smart and need to be
constantly
    > > chanelled by the rich. Only dommunist and Democrats the wealth is
funnelled
    > > to an elite group.
    > >
    > >>
    > >>--
    > >>The Best in Message Board Discussions
    > >>http://www.comicboards.org/religion
    > >> -----------------
    > >>Bush is re-elected, fly the flag upside down!
    > >>
    > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 4:33 pm
  #51  
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In article <[email protected]>, nobody <[email protected]>
wrote:

    > Go Fig wrote:
    > > > Essentially, americans returned to a mosque they had bombed before, and
    > > > found
    > > > some people stil alive, unarmed, still breathing but not moving becase
    > > > they
    > > > were badly injured,
    > >
    > > You did NOT get this from the video footage, there was absolutely no
    > > way to tell if they were alive or not.
    >
    > I guess FOX edited out the audio. It was quite clear that the person was
    > alive.

Thats just not true, the only audio is that of the Marine(s) saying:
'is he breathing, he's alive ... (shot)... now he's not'

As to the video, it is focused on the older man with another man
(foreground) and it is only at the last second that the camera pans up
to the Marine that shot the man.

It is impossible for you or anybody else to discern if he was breathing
or not from this video.

It looks bad on the face of it, but that is not the entire story yet.

I noticed you just avoided my direct question to you and the BBC
coverage.....

jay
Mon Nov 15, 2004
mailto:[email protected]


    >
    > I take it Fox said "job well done" about what the US soldiers did in that
    > mosque ?
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 7:38 pm
  #52  
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:09:24 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >dgs wrote:
    >> Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> Roedy Green writes:
    >>>> Notice how you never see a dead or maimed body on TV. Just pretty
    >>>> explosions from a distance as if it were a fourth of July show.
    >>> Notice how you don't even see fictionalized representations of dead
    >>> bodies, now that _Saving Private Ryan_ has been banned from television
    >>> for its too-realistic depiction of the reality of war.
    >> It has? News to me. It was shown on November 11th where I live.
    >> Was it banned where you live?
    >In line with Republicrat desires to interfere in citizen's lives they
    >have increased their threats to broadcast TV stations. When a network
    >scheduled a broadcast of Ryan a moderate number of station felt
    >threatened sufficiently by the feds that they were unwilling to show the
    >movie. While the network promised to pay any fines the stations felt
    >that, with the return of shrub, the Republicrat might shut them down
    >when their license renewal came up.


Are you serious? Everone makes jokes about the US becoming like one of
the former East European communist states, if what you say is true,
then it's not exactly a joke any more is it?
--==++AJC++==--
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 9:28 pm
  #53  
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"Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. com...
    > "Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >
    > > Jeff wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > >>Jeff wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>>"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >>>news:[email protected]...
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>>Roedy Green wrote:
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:12:26 -0500, "Bush is the AntiChrist!! "
    > > >>>>><[email protected]> wrote or quoted :
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>>Rather it is so that public opinion is not affected. Ah got love
    > that
    > > >>>>>>free media, which means they won't always show us what we have a
    > right
    > > >>>>>>to see.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>Notice how you never see a dead or maimed body on TV. Just pretty
    > > >>>>>explosions from a distance as if it were a fourth of July show.
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>>
    > > >>>>
    > > >>>>Exactly, ignorance allows neo-cons to sleep confortably at night.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>If that is correct then commie-dems
    > > >>
    > > >>Commie? The conservatives have more in common with the communist
party
    > > >>than the Democrats. Both Conservatives and Commies believe in a one
    > > >>party gov't, security over civil liberites, spying on their neighbors
on
    > > >>behalf of the government etc.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Sorry Bub but you've been listening to the dem propagandist for far
too
    > > > long. The Dems are the ones who favor government control of your
whole
    > life
    > > > (womb to tomb). Dems believe the average person is not smart enough
to
    > > > handle his own money and that the government officials can run
programs
    > more
    > > > efficiently and compassionately.
    > > >
    > >
    > > You really should have been watching what has been going on for the past
    > > four years.
    > I've been more aware then any other time in my life.

Are you aware not one terrorist was convicted under Asscroft's watch.

Note one.



    > > >>The only thing that Communist and Dems loosely agree on is that the
rich
    > > >>shouldn't benefit off the backs of the poor.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Yea, they both agree the poor aren't very smart and need to be
    > constantly
    > > > chanelled by the rich. Only dommunist and Democrats the wealth is
    > funnelled
    > > > to an elite group.
    > > >
    > > >>
    > > >>--
    > > >>The Best in Message Board Discussions
    > > >>http://www.comicboards.org/religion
    > > >> -----------------
    > > >>Bush is re-elected, fly the flag upside down!
    > > >>
    > > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>*********xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
 
Old Nov 15th 2004, 10:23 pm
  #54  
Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > There have also been reports by embedded reporters of people faking
    > death, waving 'white flags', only to open fire with their weapons...
    > does the BBC cover that ?

Yes.

David

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Old Nov 16th 2004, 4:37 am
  #55  
Al Haj Tawil Hed
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The "Crescent Network News".
"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1gn9qkq.nxpo0c1iyttu4N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Pete wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Contrary to what most Americans think, the rest of the world knows
that the
>> > media in the US are extremely meak when it comes to criticizing the
>> > government. They are basically just reporters of news conferences.
>>
>> Are you sure they qualify as "reporters" at all? I can't
>> remember when I last heard a "news" broadcast by a U.S.
>> reporter that was not also a "commentary"! I don't says
>> that "News from the BBC" can't be "slanted", too, but they
>> do far less of it, with many more simple statements of fact.
>
> In a recent edition of BBC R4's (also on World Service) "From our own
> Correspondent" the reporter stated how she couldn't help but burst into
> tears when she saw Arafat's last flight out of Palestine, to Paris. The
> point of this programme is that it's _meant_ to be a more personal point
> of view from the various global BBC correspondents. That's as personal
> as she got. She didn't say why she cried, and she didn't make any
> statement either way on the Palestine/Israel issue from a POV. I
> listened to the original, and it was very moving. In a way, you could
> even understand the most vociferously anti-Palestinian commentator
> making a similar comment.
>
> Anyway, the programme received a _lot_ of complaints, and on a recent
> 'feedback' programme, the BBC revealed that the correspondent had been
> mildly reprimanded for the comment.
>
> It didn't make sense to me, but it did show how sensitive the BBC is to
> bias. The current Labour government in the UK gives the impression that
> the BBC is biased against them. Well, that's what the Conservatives said
> when they were in power. Makes me the think the Beeb is doing
> _something_ right, even if BBC 1 TV has turned into a pile of cheap
> tat...
>
> David
>
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