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Old Jan 31st 2007 | 3:13 pm
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VainGlorious
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I've been planning another central Europe trip for a few months. The
plan was to go mid-late May. Last Sunday, I was comparing carriers and
schedules and was fairly set on BA. I've flown them a few times
before, and I have no complaints with them.

But lo and behold, their one-stop flights (SEA-VIE) were full for my
selected dates! I had to re-engineer my plans. Sure, I could have
flown a number of carriers with 3-4 stops in each direction for about
$1,000. But **** that noise; 17 hours of airports, airplanes and
luggage loss fears are not worth it. After much agonizing, I settled
on SAS SEA-VIE via CPH, then NWA VIE-SEA via AMS. A great schedule at
normal human hours. Total airfare: $1800!

That's rather high. But I saw no alternative. Seats were filling up
(and rates rising) by the day. Some of you travel experts may be able
to find better rates with these schedules (MAY11-MAY27). I'd love to
see your research results here, if possible. I bow to your travel
agentry.

This trip will be a heady mix of natural splendor and urban charms. It
is indeed a hectic schedule. I agree with everyone who admonishes
travelers to spend more time at fewer stops, but my travel mates and I
are up for road adventure. We will have a borrowed vehicle (an ugly
bright yellow minivan festooned with a Viennese auto repair shop
logo). It is so startlingly ugly and easily spotted that we have few
fears of it being stolen by some conniving Roma scumbag.

So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
criticism:

Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
Day4: Tour Budapest.
Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
Day9: Venezia
Day10: More Venezia.
Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
way...
Day 15: Wien
Day16: Fly home.

Obviously, this is much driving and many in/outs. But we all enjoy the
road and we all have short attention spans. I'm pretty excited about
this plan. If anyone has any ideas for worthy stops on my "flight
path", feel free to pipe up. I'm all ears.

- TR
- trying to learn more German so I can tell if my Viennese hosts are
talking shit about me. :0)
 
Old Jan 31st 2007 | 4:19 pm
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Tile
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"VainGlorious" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've been planning another central Europe trip for a few months. The
> plan was to go mid-late May. Last Sunday, I was comparing carriers and
> schedules and was fairly set on BA. I've flown them a few times
> before, and I have no complaints with them.
>
> But lo and behold, their one-stop flights (SEA-VIE) were full for my
> selected dates! I had to re-engineer my plans. Sure, I could have
> flown a number of carriers with 3-4 stops in each direction for about
> $1,000. But **** that noise; 17 hours of airports, airplanes and
> luggage loss fears are not worth it. After much agonizing, I settled
> on SAS SEA-VIE via CPH, then NWA VIE-SEA via AMS. A great schedule at
> normal human hours. Total airfare: $1800!
>
> That's rather high. But I saw no alternative. Seats were filling up
> (and rates rising) by the day. Some of you travel experts may be able
> to find better rates with these schedules (MAY11-MAY27). I'd love to
> see your research results here, if possible. I bow to your travel
> agentry.
>
> This trip will be a heady mix of natural splendor and urban charms. It
> is indeed a hectic schedule. I agree with everyone who admonishes
> travelers to spend more time at fewer stops, but my travel mates and I
> are up for road adventure. We will have a borrowed vehicle (an ugly
> bright yellow minivan festooned with a Viennese auto repair shop
> logo). It is so startlingly ugly and easily spotted that we have few
> fears of it being stolen by some conniving Roma scumbag.
>
> So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
> criticism:
>
> Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
> Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
> Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
> Day4: Tour Budapest.
> Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
> Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
> Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
> Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
> Day9: Venezia
> Day10: More Venezia.
> Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
> day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
> Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
> include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
> way...
> Day 15: Wien
> Day16: Fly home.
>
> Obviously, this is much driving and many in/outs. But we all enjoy the
> road and we all have short attention spans. I'm pretty excited about
> this plan. If anyone has any ideas for worthy stops on my "flight
> path", feel free to pipe up. I'm all ears.
>
> - TR
> - trying to learn more German so I can tell if my Viennese hosts are
> talking shit about me. :0)
>
>
>
>
>
skip Bratislava..

use

www.viamichelin.com for itineraries. costs. times.

the Balaton Lake is very long. you will have to go by car from Budapest a
long way before you see it.
the highway from Wien to Budapest does not go through
Bratislava.
you will nee a full day ( maybe more ) in Plitvice.
It is a very nice natural park. were cars are not admitted.
you will need good shoes. I think there are only electrical buses inside the
park for the long rides.
you will hire a car. tell the rent a car company about yr itinerary. you
might need a special permission to go to all these countries.. and at least
a sticker for Hungary.
Slovenia now is using EURO
 
Old Jan 31st 2007 | 4:40 pm
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Gregory Morrow
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Ted, you are SUCH a DROK...PLEASE stay home in Olympia...your kitty
WANTS you...

SHEESH...

--
Best
Greg



On Jan 31, 10:13 pm, VainGlorious

<[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been planning another central Europe trip for a few months. The
> plan was to go mid-late May. Last Sunday, I was comparing carriers and
> schedules and was fairly set on BA. I've flown them a few times
> before, and I have no complaints with them.
>
> But lo and behold, their one-stop flights (SEA-VIE) were full for my
> selected dates! I had to re-engineer my plans. Sure, I could have
> flown a number of carriers with 3-4 stops in each direction for about
> $1,000. But **** that noise; 17 hours of airports, airplanes and
> luggage loss fears are not worth it. After much agonizing, I settled
> on SAS SEA-VIE via CPH, then NWA VIE-SEA via AMS. A great schedule at
> normal human hours. Total airfare: $1800!
>
> That's rather high. But I saw no alternative. Seats were filling up
> (and rates rising) by the day. Some of you travel experts may be able
> to find better rates with these schedules (MAY11-MAY27). I'd love to
> see your research results here, if possible. I bow to your travel
> agentry.
>
> This trip will be a heady mix of natural splendor and urban charms. It
> is indeed a hectic schedule. I agree with everyone who admonishes
> travelers to spend more time at fewer stops, but my travel mates and I
> are up for road adventure. We will have a borrowed vehicle (an ugly
> bright yellow minivan festooned with a Viennese auto repair shop
> logo). It is so startlingly ugly and easily spotted that we have few
> fears of it being stolen by some conniving Roma scumbag.
>
> So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
> criticism:
>
> Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
> Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
> Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
> Day4: Tour Budapest.
> Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
> Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
> Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
> Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
> Day9: Venezia
> Day10: More Venezia.
> Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
> day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
> Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
> include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
> way...
> Day 15: Wien
> Day16: Fly home.
>
> Obviously, this is much driving and many in/outs. But we all enjoy the
> road and we all have short attention spans. I'm pretty excited about
> this plan. If anyone has any ideas for worthy stops on my "flight
> path", feel free to pipe up. I'm all ears.
>
> - TR
> - trying to learn more German so I can tell if my Viennese hosts are
> talking shit about me. :0)
 
Old Jan 31st 2007 | 5:24 pm
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Runge
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Funny how people enjoy exhibiting their private stuff and how morrow gets
jealous

"Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected] om...
> Ted, you are SUCH a DROK...PLEASE stay home in Olympia...your kitty
> WANTS you...
>
> SHEESH...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 10:13 pm, VainGlorious
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've been planning another central Europe trip for a few months. The
>> plan was to go mid-late May. Last Sunday, I was comparing carriers and
>> schedules and was fairly set on BA. I've flown them a few times
>> before, and I have no complaints with them.
>>
>> But lo and behold, their one-stop flights (SEA-VIE) were full for my
>> selected dates! I had to re-engineer my plans. Sure, I could have
>> flown a number of carriers with 3-4 stops in each direction for about
>> $1,000. But **** that noise; 17 hours of airports, airplanes and
>> luggage loss fears are not worth it. After much agonizing, I settled
>> on SAS SEA-VIE via CPH, then NWA VIE-SEA via AMS. A great schedule at
>> normal human hours. Total airfare: $1800!
>>
>> That's rather high. But I saw no alternative. Seats were filling up
>> (and rates rising) by the day. Some of you travel experts may be able
>> to find better rates with these schedules (MAY11-MAY27). I'd love to
>> see your research results here, if possible. I bow to your travel
>> agentry.
>>
>> This trip will be a heady mix of natural splendor and urban charms. It
>> is indeed a hectic schedule. I agree with everyone who admonishes
>> travelers to spend more time at fewer stops, but my travel mates and I
>> are up for road adventure. We will have a borrowed vehicle (an ugly
>> bright yellow minivan festooned with a Viennese auto repair shop
>> logo). It is so startlingly ugly and easily spotted that we have few
>> fears of it being stolen by some conniving Roma scumbag.
>>
>> So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
>> criticism:
>>
>> Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
>> Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
>> Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
>> Day4: Tour Budapest.
>> Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
>> Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
>> Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
>> Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
>> Day9: Venezia
>> Day10: More Venezia.
>> Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
>> day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
>> Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
>> include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
>> way...
>> Day 15: Wien
>> Day16: Fly home.
>>
>> Obviously, this is much driving and many in/outs. But we all enjoy the
>> road and we all have short attention spans. I'm pretty excited about
>> this plan. If anyone has any ideas for worthy stops on my "flight
>> path", feel free to pipe up. I'm all ears.
>>
>> - TR
>> - trying to learn more German so I can tell if my Viennese hosts are
>> talking shit about me. :0)
>
>
 
Old Feb 1st 2007 | 2:48 pm
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VainGlorious
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On 31 Jan 2007 21:40:03 -0800, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ted, you are SUCH a DROK...PLEASE stay home in Olympia...your kitty
>WANTS you...

If you have any content to add to my post, please do - even if it's
hyperbolic. If all you have is misspelled insults, then maybe it would
be best if you shut the **** up and saved yourself the public
embarrassment.

- TR
 
Old Feb 1st 2007 | 8:54 pm
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Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:13:31 -0800,
> VainGlorious <[email protected]> writted:
>
> >So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
> >criticism:
> >
> >Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
> >Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
> >Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
> >Day4: Tour Budapest.
> >Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
> >Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
> >Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
> >Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
> >Day9: Venezia
> >Day10: More Venezia.
> >Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
> >day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
> >Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
> >include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
> >way...
> >Day 15: Wien
> >Day16: Fly home.
>
> No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
> reasonable itinerary, for once!

I disagree. One day for Budapest, speeding through the Istrian
peninsula? That's all quite rushed.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
 
Old Feb 1st 2007 | 8:57 pm
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Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:13:31 -0800,
VainGlorious <[email protected]> writted:

>So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
>criticism:
>
>Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
>Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
>Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
>Day4: Tour Budapest.
>Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
>Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
>Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
>Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
>Day9: Venezia
>Day10: More Venezia.
>Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
>day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
>Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
>include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
>way...
>Day 15: Wien
>Day16: Fly home.

No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
reasonable itinerary, for once!

Oh, and of course I second Tile about skipping Bratislava.
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Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 5:07 am
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VainGlorious <[email protected]> wrote:
> But lo and behold, their one-stop flights (SEA-VIE) were full for my
> selected dates! I had to re-engineer my plans. Sure, I could have
> flown a number of carriers with 3-4 stops in each direction for about
> $1,000. But **** that noise; 17 hours of airports, airplanes and
> luggage loss fears are not worth it. After much agonizing, I settled
> on SAS SEA-VIE via CPH, then NWA VIE-SEA via AMS. A great schedule at
> normal human hours. Total airfare: $1800!

Did you try a discount travel agent? Using websites to to book
intercontinental flights on IATA airlines is almost always a mistake. A
good travel agent should be able to get you a much better deal than that.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
 
Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 7:54 am
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Let is be knownst that on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:54:48 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:

>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:13:31 -0800,
>> VainGlorious <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>> >So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
>> >criticism:
>> >
>> >Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
>> >Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
>> >Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
>> >Day4: Tour Budapest.
>> >Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
>> >Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
>> >Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
>> >Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
>> >Day9: Venezia
>> >Day10: More Venezia.
>> >Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
>> >day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
>> >Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
>> >include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
>> >way...
>> >Day 15: Wien
>> >Day16: Fly home.
>>
>> No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
>> reasonable itinerary, for once!
>
>I disagree. One day for Budapest, speeding through the Istrian
>peninsula? That's all quite rushed.

What would you do instead?
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Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 7:59 am
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Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:54:48 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:13:31 -0800,
> >> VainGlorious <[email protected]> writted:
> >>
> >> >So anyway, here's the 16-day schedule, here for your unrestrained
> >> >criticism:
> >> >
> >> >Day1: Fly to Wien. Stay with travel mate. Sleep.
> >> >Day2: Tour Wien (I love that city). Sleep more.
> >> >Day3: Drive to Budapest with a day stop in Bratislava.
> >> >Day4: Tour Budapest.
> >> >Day5: Long drive to Zagreb. Spend some time stopping at Lake Balaton.
> >> >Day6: Drive to Plitvica Lakes. Stay in Rastovaca.
> >> >Day7: Up to Rijecka/Opatija via the coast.
> >> >Day8: Trieste, stopping at Postojna caves on the way.
> >> >Day9: Venezia
> >> >Day10: More Venezia.
> >> >Day11: Here things are still undecided. The original plan was a
> >> >day/night in each Cortina D'Ampezzo, Lienz and Klangenfurt, then on to
> >> >Wien. But my travel partners are investigating alternatives that
> >> >include stops at various Alpine vistas and Austrian caves. Either
> >> >way...
> >> >Day 15: Wien
> >> >Day16: Fly home.
> >>
> >> No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
> >> reasonable itinerary, for once!
> >
> >I disagree. One day for Budapest, speeding through the Istrian
> >peninsula? That's all quite rushed.
>
> What would you do instead?

Personally, I'd omit some of the destinations. There are a lot of day
(or near day) stops there. And a lot of driving in a car, which is OK if
that's what the poster likes I suppose.

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Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 8:14 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (VainGlorious) wrote:

> Wien
> Venezia

Paging Horne!
 
Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 4:08 pm
  #12  
VainGlorious
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:54:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:

>> No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
>> reasonable itinerary, for once!
>
>I disagree. One day for Budapest, speeding through the Istrian
>peninsula? That's all quite rushed.

It may seem rushed, and I would like to spend more time in Budapest,
but I am an American. Getting 16 days off from work took a year of
begging, prodding and political maneuvering. My base is going to be
Wien, and I wanted to travel overland to Venezia and back. I don't
care for museums - unless they are bizarre. Ornate behemoths stuffed
with portraiture bore the shit out of me. Torture museums? Sex
museums? Oh yeah...

Regardless, while cities like Budapest take several days to fully
explore, since I'm mostly interested in meeting some locals, having
some meals and enjoying the skyline, I should be happy. ...Oh, dammit,
you are right. Another day in Budapest is called for. I will consult
with my comrades.

If I had another 5 days, I'd have slowed down and spent more of the
trip on the Dalmatian coast and the Istrian peninsula. But I have to
get "out there and back". It's all just bloody unfair. Next year, I'm
going to pick a destination and just relax. But this year? ROAD TRIP!

- TR
 
Old Feb 2nd 2007 | 5:29 pm
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:08:48 -0800, VainGlorious
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:54:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>>wrote:
>
>>> No one else seems to be saying much, and neither can I. Looks like a
>>> reasonable itinerary, for once!
>>
>>I disagree. One day for Budapest, speeding through the Istrian
>>peninsula? That's all quite rushed.
>
>It may seem rushed, and I would like to spend more time in Budapest,
>but I am an American. Getting 16 days off from work took a year of
>begging, prodding and political maneuvering. My base is going to be
>Wien, and I wanted to travel overland to Venezia and back. I don't
>care for museums - unless they are bizarre. Ornate behemoths stuffed
>with portraiture bore the shit out of me. Torture museums? Sex
>museums? Oh yeah...
>
>Regardless, while cities like Budapest take several days to fully
>explore, since I'm mostly interested in meeting some locals, having
>some meals and enjoying the skyline, I should be happy. ...Oh, dammit,
>you are right. Another day in Budapest is called for. I will consult
>with my comrades.
>
>If I had another 5 days, I'd have slowed down and spent more of the
>trip on the Dalmatian coast and the Istrian peninsula. But I have to
>get "out there and back". It's all just bloody unfair. Next year, I'm
>going to pick a destination and just relax. But this year? ROAD TRIP!
>
>- TR
>
>
Just some snippets on Hungary. I drove last Spring; I
crossed the border from Slovenia at Lenti (we were actually
trying to find accommodation in Eastern Slovenia and
eventually gave up:-) and drove via the northern shores of
Balaton to Budapest, stayed three nights, then wandered up
to the Danube Bend. Lake Balaton was, well, beautiful but
just another lake. Budapest was fascinating - all the usual
things but the part I enjoyed most was the glorious views
from old Citadel (comparing the bridges and buildings with
the giant photos of the WWII destruction), it's associated
bunker WWII museum, wandering around in the older sections
of town and eating at local restaurants as we wandered. Oh,
and getting confused with their subway system. A way to find
unexpected sights:-)

Some of the most spectacular views on the trip were from the
Castle at Visegrad, which also had a reasonably interesting
small museum.

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Old Feb 3rd 2007 | 6:58 am
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VainGlorious
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Default Re: Central Europe Itinerary (and Aifare Woes)

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:29:17 +1100, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:


>Just some snippets on Hungary. I drove last Spring; I
>crossed the border from Slovenia at Lenti (we were actually
>trying to find accommodation in Eastern Slovenia and
>eventually gave up:-) and drove via the northern shores of
>Balaton to Budapest, stayed three nights, then wandered up
>to the Danube Bend. Lake Balaton was, well, beautiful but
>just another lake. Budapest was fascinating - all the usual
>things but the part I enjoyed most was the glorious views
>from old Citadel (comparing the bridges and buildings with
>the giant photos of the WWII destruction), it's associated
>bunker WWII museum, wandering around in the older sections
>of town and eating at local restaurants as we wandered. Oh,
>and getting confused with their subway system. A way to find
>unexpected sights:-)
>
>Some of the most spectacular views on the trip were from the
>Castle at Visegrad, which also had a reasonably interesting
>small museum.

Thanks, Alan. Your notes have been...noted!

With only a day and a half (or so) in Budapest, I'll need the "big
picture", and these are all good ways of doing that.

- TR
 
Old Feb 3rd 2007 | 9:37 am
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Deeply Filled Mortician
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Default Re: Central Europe Itinerary (and Aifare Woes)

Let is be knownst that on Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:58:12 -0800,
VainGlorious <[email protected]> writted:

>On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:29:17 +1100, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Just some snippets on Hungary. I drove last Spring; I
>>crossed the border from Slovenia at Lenti (we were actually
>>trying to find accommodation in Eastern Slovenia and
>>eventually gave up:-) and drove via the northern shores of
>>Balaton to Budapest, stayed three nights, then wandered up
>>to the Danube Bend. Lake Balaton was, well, beautiful but
>>just another lake. Budapest was fascinating - all the usual
>>things but the part I enjoyed most was the glorious views
>>from old Citadel (comparing the bridges and buildings with
>>the giant photos of the WWII destruction), it's associated
>>bunker WWII museum, wandering around in the older sections
>>of town and eating at local restaurants as we wandered. Oh,
>>and getting confused with their subway system. A way to find
>>unexpected sights:-)
>>
>>Some of the most spectacular views on the trip were from the
>>Castle at Visegrad, which also had a reasonably interesting
>>small museum.
>
>Thanks, Alan. Your notes have been...noted!
>
>With only a day and a half (or so) in Budapest, I'll need the "big
>picture", and these are all good ways of doing that.

That's a shame. I wasn't really impressed with Budapest until about
the third day, and then I didn't want to leave.
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