My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
the usual crowd push.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
are distracted, perhaps intentionally.

We have already decided to use smaller memory cars in the camera so
that at most one week of pictures can be lost. It would be nice to
have some way to simply move all the days pictures to a separate
memory card or other safe place but I'm not going to carry a laptop or
visit an internet café every day

Thanks
Steve Gerdemann

On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
> Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
> pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
> getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
> We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
> Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
> impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
> removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
> the usual crowd push.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
> don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
> reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
> are distracted, perhaps intentionally.


Carry your backpack in front of you, not on your back, esp. in crowded
places.

Put valuables deep inside the pack.


>
> We have already decided to use smaller memory cars in the camera so
> that at most one week of pictures can be lost. It would be nice to
> have some way to simply move all the days pictures to a separate
> memory card or other safe place but I'm not going to carry a laptop or
> visit an internet café every day
>
> Thanks
> Steve Gerdemann

> Carry your backpack in front of you, not on your back, esp.
> in crowded places.

> Put valuables deep inside the pack.


Glue some strips of velcro to the back of several mouse traps. On the
inside of a front backpack pocket glue or fasten the alternate strips
of velcro, ones which can be used to secure the mouse traps.

Leave this pocket accessible. Such as, with a flap which is easy to
bypass. The would-be thief's yelling will serve as your audible
alarm.

No you can either use a 8 gb card with the latest cameras or buy an image
tank, Vosonic makes some very reliable ones

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My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
the usual crowd push.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
are distracted, perhaps intentionally.

We have already decided to use smaller memory cars in the camera so
that at most one week of pictures can be lost. It would be nice to
have some way to simply move all the days pictures to a separate
memory card or other safe place but I'm not going to carry a laptop or
visit an internet café every day

Thanks
Steve Gerdemann

On 16 Apr 2007 20:36:17 -0700, steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
>pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
>getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.

I don't think backpacks on your back are safe in city situations. Its
a system designed for the wilderness adopted by city travelers, its
vulnerable to thieves and you constantly annoy people by turning and
bashing them with it.
If you do use one you need to secure the entry points. Some go as far
as wire netting liners.
--
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On 16 Apr 2007 21:09:01 -0700, Term Limits Now
<[email protected]> wrote:

> The would-be thief's yelling will serve as your audible
>alarm.

or him knifing you in the back in anger.
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

Make credence recognised that on 16 Apr 2007 21:09:01 -0700, Term
Limits Now <[email protected]> has scripted:

>> Carry your backpack in front of you, not on your back, esp.
>> in crowded places.
>
>> Put valuables deep inside the pack.
>
>
> Glue some strips of velcro to the back of several mouse traps. On the
>inside of a front backpack pocket glue or fasten the alternate strips
>of velcro, ones which can be used to secure the mouse traps.
>
> Leave this pocket accessible. Such as, with a flap which is easy to
>bypass. The would-be thief's yelling will serve as your audible
>alarm.

Of course the chances are you'll find it yourself the next time you're
rifling through the pockets looking for something.
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:22:16 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Of course the chances are you'll find it yourself the next time you're
>rifling through the pockets looking for something.

indeed! How come therre are no trolls about latest campus massacre?
Spose its old hat?
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

On Apr 16, 11:27 pm, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2007 20:36:17 -0700, steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
> >pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
> >getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
>
> I don't think backpacks on your back are safe in city situations. Its
> a system designed for the wilderness adopted by city travelers, its
> vulnerable to thieves and you constantly annoy people by turning and
> bashing them with it.

I agree but this was really just a small daypack. The sad part is that
in the past I used to carry the thing on one shoulder and would
usually put it in front of me in crowded situations. But I found
carrying it that way tiring on long days so I switched to just keeping
it on my back. I guess I will go back to the old system.

Steve G

On 17 apr, 15:56, steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 11:27 pm, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 16 Apr 2007 20:36:17 -0700, steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
> > >pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
> > >getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
>
> > I don't think backpacks on your back are safe in city situations. Its
> > a system designed for the wilderness adopted by city travelers, its
> > vulnerable to thieves and you constantly annoy people by turning and
> > bashing them with it.
>
> I agree but this was really just a small daypack. The sad part is that
> in the past I used to carry the thing on one shoulder and would
> usually put it in front of me in crowded situations. But I found
> carrying it that way tiring on long days so I switched to just keeping
> it on my back. I guess I will go back to the old system.

Mrs B had a purse stolen on the Paris Metro in similar circumstances.
I like velcro - it makes a loud noise when someone opens it! Also - I
think Crumpler make backpacks that open from the back, so the would-be
thief would have to burrow beneath your shoulder blades to rob you.

B;

On Apr 17, 5:36 am, steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
> Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
> pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
> getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
> We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
> Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
> impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
> removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
> the usual crowd push.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
> don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
> reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
> are distracted, perhaps intentionally.
>
> We have already decided to use smaller memory cars in the camera so
> that at most one week of pictures can be lost. It would be nice to
> have some way to simply move all the days pictures to a separate
> memory card or other safe place but I'm not going to carry a laptop or
> visit an internet café every day
>
> Thanks
> Steve Gerdemann

what camera was it ?

On 16 Apr 2007 20:36:17 -0700, steve <[email protected]> wrote:

>My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
>Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
>pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
>getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
>We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
>Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
>impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
>removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
>the usual crowd push.
>
>Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
>don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
>reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
>are distracted, perhaps intentionally.

Simple: lockable backpack.

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My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
the usual crowd push.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera?
---------
There're no special secrets , just be normal careful in crowds.
Carry the backpacker, or handbag so you can watch them or have a hand on
them.
Don't show valuables so it's a good thing to have them in a bag.

Real simple. If you really,really do not want your camera stolen then tie it
to you , perhaps around your belt or around your waist with a small sized
length of nylon cord.It cannot be stolen unless they want to go to the
trouble to cut the cord, which they probably won't since it is usually a
case of grab and go. Also if they see that the camera is tethered to your
body someway they will be discoraged from trying to steal it anyway because
it is too much trouble.
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My wife and I just returned from a mostly enjoyable trip to Spain,
Morocco and Portugal. Unfortunately, our camera along with all our
pictures of Spain was stolen on our first day in Portugal. I was
getting onto a crowded subway train and had the camera in my backpack.
We had thought it was safer in the backpack than carrying it loose.
Anyway there was lots of pushing to get into the subway which made it
impossible to tell that someone had their hand in my backpack. After
removing the camera I was shoved into the car. I just thought it was
the usual crowd push.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the safest way to carry a camera? I
don't want to spend all my time being paranoid. I think of myself as
reasonable careful but there will always be momentary lapses when you
are distracted, perhaps intentionally.

We have already decided to use smaller memory cars in the camera so
that at most one week of pictures can be lost. It would be nice to
have some way to simply move all the days pictures to a separate
memory card or other safe place but I'm not going to carry a laptop or
visit an internet café every day

Thanks
Steve Gerdemann

Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> >I agree but this was really just a small daypack. The sad part is that
> >in the past I used to carry the thing on one shoulder and would
> >usually put it in front of me in crowded situations. But I found
> >carrying it that way tiring on long days so I switched to just keeping
> >it on my back. I guess I will go back to the old system.
>
> Another trick is to put valuable stuff in one of those really noise
> crinkly crackly plastic bags. This is especially a good move for your
> passport, tickets etc, as they are also protected against water. Who
> cares if you make a bit of noise when showing these documents?

This gets my vote as the 'why didn't _I_ think of that?' post of the
year.

Y.

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