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Old Nov 16th 2004, 9:49 am
  #31  
Frank F. Matthews
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Ellie C wrote:

    > Magda wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:11:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C
    >> <[email protected]>
    >> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >> ... poldy wrote:
    >> ... ... > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> ... > Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> ... > ... > ... >>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in
    >> spices in Paris? Or, if not ... >>one specialising in them, one that
    >> carries a wide selection. I'm looking ... >>for things like whole
    >> cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >> ... > ... > ... > I don't know what the first two are but is chili
    >> powder part of Parisian ... > cuisine?
    >> ... ... I'd be surprised if chili powder is part of Parisian
    >> cuisine. But I ... would expect a store specializing in spices to
    >> carry things that are not ... part of the local cuisine.
    >> Not sure, but "quatre épices" may be close to what you are looking for.
    >> Otherwise, strong paprika ? Or piments-oiseaux - a single one made my
    >> ratatouille absolute
    >> hell !
    > Paprika is quite different from Mexican style chili powder. But, that
    > said, the paprika available here is very mild. I'm not familiar with
    > "quatre épices" Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.

Now that Hungary is in the EU perhaps they will be exporting the full
range of Paprikas that they produce.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 7:15 pm
  #32  
Magda
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:46:12 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... Paprika is quite different from Mexican style chili powder. But, that
... said, the paprika available here is very mild. I'm not familiar with
... "quatre épices" Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.

No, sorry - I made a search and it's not at all what you want (poivre, cannelle, girofle &
muscade). OTOH, near my place supermarkets abound with the spices you are looking for.
Unless you want to buy them in open markets...
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 8:16 pm
  #33  
Nathalie Chiva
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:46:12 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.

"Quatre-épices" is not a mixture, it is the French name for Jamaican
pepper (aka allspice).

Nathalie in Switzerland
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 8:29 pm
  #34  
Magda
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:16:25 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Nathalie Chiva
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
like this :

... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:46:12 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.
...
... "Quatre-épices" is not a mixture, it is the French name for Jamaican
... pepper (aka allspice).
...
... Nathalie in Switzerland

Yes, it IS a mixture.

http://terroirs.denfrance.free.fr/p/...ce_epices.html
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 8:46 pm
  #35  
Magda
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:47:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
... one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
... for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.

http://www.epicurieux.com/rayons/epices/index.htm
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:19 pm
  #36  
Ellie C
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Rita wrote:

    > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:49:26 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Rita wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:13:35 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Rita wrote:
    >>>>>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:34:03 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
    >>>>>>>one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
    >>>>>>>for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >>>>>>I don't know what the first two are but is chili powder part of Parisian
    >>>>>>cuisine?
    >>>>>The Americanized version of chili powder is different from what is
    >>>>>called chili powder in Indian and other Asian cooking. The latter
    >>>>>is made from hot peppers, while the America version contains cumin
    >>>>>and other spices and herbs. I'd say an Asian food market would have
    >>>>>what the poster wants, particularly an Indian market.
    >>>>Actually, I'm looking for the kind used in American Tex-Mex cooking.
    >>>>I'll be in Paris for a weekend, so I thought I'd look for it there,
    >>>>since Paris is just a bit more cosmopolitan than Espéraza. ;-)
    >>>Create your own. The jar on my spice shelf contains:
    >>>Powdered chili pepper, salt, cumin seed, oregano and garlic
    >>>powder. Use the chili pepper to reach the degree of "heat"
    >>>you like best. When I am out of the packaged stuff, I mix
    >>>my own by taste. Hope this helps!
    >>Yes, I could create my own, if only I could find the ingredients. My
    >>point is that where I live in the South of France it is difficult to
    >>find anything but the most basic spices. Cumin is unheard of. When we
    >>were in Carcassonne today I came across a small packet of something
    >>called Mexican spices. Havent tried it yet, but maybe it will be good
    >>for making chili.
    >
    >
    > In the South of France are there no Middle Eastern populations or
    > Arabs? Cumin is widely used in their cooking. And so are hot peppers
    > used for seasoning. Cumin is used in Middle Eastern foods such as
    > hummus and much else. I thought France had a sizeable African
    > population?
    >
As mentioned before - I can not find these spices here. And it's not
that I have not searched. I can get sayenne pepper; that's about it.
We've lived here almost a year now and I've been looking in all sorts of
places. Maybe the sizable African population goes to Paris to buy
spices. ;-)
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:20 pm
  #37  
Ellie C
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Frank F. Matthews wrote:

    >
    >
    > Ellie C wrote:
    >
    >> Magda wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:11:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C
    >>> <[email protected]>
    >>> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >>> ... poldy wrote:
    >>> ... ... > In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> ... > Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> ... > ... > ... >>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in
    >>> spices in Paris? Or, if not ... >>one specialising in them, one that
    >>> carries a wide selection. I'm looking ... >>for things like whole
    >>> cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >>> ... > ... > ... > I don't know what the first two are but is chili
    >>> powder part of Parisian ... > cuisine?
    >>> ... ... I'd be surprised if chili powder is part of Parisian
    >>> cuisine. But I ... would expect a store specializing in spices to
    >>> carry things that are not ... part of the local cuisine.
    >>> Not sure, but "quatre épices" may be close to what you are looking for.
    >>> Otherwise, strong paprika ? Or piments-oiseaux - a single one made my
    >>> ratatouille absolute
    >>> hell !
    >> Paprika is quite different from Mexican style chili powder. But, that
    >> said, the paprika available here is very mild. I'm not familiar with
    >> "quatre épices" Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.
    >
    >
    > Now that Hungary is in the EU perhaps they will be exporting the full
    > range of Paprikas that they produce.
    >
Something about pigs flying comes into my mind... ;-)
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:21 pm
  #38  
Ellie C
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Magda wrote:

    > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:46:12 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    >
    > ... Paprika is quite different from Mexican style chili powder. But, that
    > ... said, the paprika available here is very mild. I'm not familiar with
    > ... "quatre épices" Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds interesting.
    >
    > No, sorry - I made a search and it's not at all what you want (poivre, cannelle, girofle &
    > muscade). OTOH, near my place supermarkets abound with the spices you are looking for.
    > Unless you want to buy them in open markets...
    >
It sounds as if I'll be able to find what I want in and Paris market. We
have definitely moved to the Arkansas of France. ;-) Lovely spot, but
not very cosmopolitan.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:27 pm
  #39  
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Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Rita
<[email protected]> a écrit :


    > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:49:26 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Rita wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:13:35 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Rita wrote:
    >>>>>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:34:03 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
    >>>>>>>one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
    >>>>>>>for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili
powder.
    >>>>>>I don't know what the first two are but is chili powder part of Parisian
    >>>>>>cuisine?
    >>>>>The Americanized version of chili powder is different from what is
    >>>>>called chili powder in Indian and other Asian cooking. The latter
    >>>>>is made from hot peppers, while the America version contains cumin
    >>>>>and other spices and herbs. I'd say an Asian food market would have
    >>>>>what the poster wants, particularly an Indian market.
    >>>>Actually, I'm looking for the kind used in American Tex-Mex cooking.
    >>>>I'll be in Paris for a weekend, so I thought I'd look for it there,
    >>>>since Paris is just a bit more cosmopolitan than Espéraza. ;-)
    >>> Create your own. The jar on my spice shelf contains:
    >>> Powdered chili pepper, salt, cumin seed, oregano and garlic
    >>> powder. Use the chili pepper to reach the degree of "heat"
    >>> you like best. When I am out of the packaged stuff, I mix
    >>> my own by taste. Hope this helps!
    >>Yes, I could create my own, if only I could find the ingredients. My
    >>point is that where I live in the South of France it is difficult to
    >>find anything but the most basic spices. Cumin is unheard of. When we
    >>were in Carcassonne today I came across a small packet of something
    >>called Mexican spices. Havent tried it yet, but maybe it will be good
    >>for making chili.
    > In the South of France are there no Middle Eastern populations or
    > Arabs? Cumin is widely used in their cooking. And so are hot peppers
    > used for seasoning. Cumin is used in Middle Eastern foods such as
    > hummus and much else. I thought France had a sizeable African
    > population?
Cumin is unheard of in the south of France??? I will have to check that out
when I am there next summer. Here in Paris, even our little local
convenience story has cumin.

Donna Evleth
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:28 pm
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Magda wrote:
    > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:47:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
    > ... one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
    > ... for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >
    > http://www.epicurieux.com/rayons/epices/index.htm
    >
Superb! Merci.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:29 pm
  #41  
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Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Ellie C
<[email protected]> a écrit :


    > Rita wrote:
    >> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:23:08 +0100, Tim Challenger <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>>That mixture of chilli and cumin and other spices as a ready-made mixture?
    >>>(I don't mean the sauce-base packets) You should be able to find that in
    >>>any supermarket's spice rack, surely? If you can't find it, make some up
    >>>yourself. Chilli, cumin, a little dried herbs. Maybe ground pepper and a
    >>>touch of ground cinnamon. To taste.
    >> After all this guessing, it dawned on me to Google for chili powder
    >> recipes. Here's one:
    >> INGREDIENTS:
    >> * 1 teaspoon paprika
    >> * 2 teaspoons ground cumin
    >> * 1 teaspoon cayenne pepper
    >> * 1 teaspoon oregano
    >> * 2 teaspoons garlic powder
    >> Paprika, of course, is a form of mild red pepper, while cayenne
    >> is the hot kind. This recipe looks about right to me for my
    >> tastes but you can go either way with the cayenne.
    > Sounds like a good recipe. If I can find cumin, red pepper and decent
    > paprika when I go to Paris, perhaps I'll use this mix.

You should have no trouble finding all of them. They are common here.

Donna Evleth
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:35 pm
  #42  
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Magda wrote:

    > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:47:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
    > ... one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
    > ... for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >
    > http://www.epicurieux.com/rayons/epices/index.htm
    >
Their piment Jamaïque looks like what we call allspice berries.
 
Old Nov 16th 2004, 11:40 pm
  #43  
Ellie C
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Donna Evleth wrote:

    >
    >
    > Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Rita
    > <[email protected]> a écrit :
    >
    >
    >
    >>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:49:26 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Rita wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:13:35 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>Rita wrote:
    >>>>>>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:34:03 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris? Or, if not
    >>>>>>>>one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection. I'm looking
    >>>>>>>>for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili
    >
    > powder.
    >
    >>>>>>>I don't know what the first two are but is chili powder part of Parisian
    >>>>>>>cuisine?
    >>>>>>The Americanized version of chili powder is different from what is
    >>>>>>called chili powder in Indian and other Asian cooking. The latter
    >>>>>>is made from hot peppers, while the America version contains cumin
    >>>>>>and other spices and herbs. I'd say an Asian food market would have
    >>>>>>what the poster wants, particularly an Indian market.
    >>>>>Actually, I'm looking for the kind used in American Tex-Mex cooking.
    >>>>>I'll be in Paris for a weekend, so I thought I'd look for it there,
    >>>>>since Paris is just a bit more cosmopolitan than Espéraza. ;-)
    >>>>Create your own. The jar on my spice shelf contains:
    >>>>Powdered chili pepper, salt, cumin seed, oregano and garlic
    >>>>powder. Use the chili pepper to reach the degree of "heat"
    >>>>you like best. When I am out of the packaged stuff, I mix
    >>>>my own by taste. Hope this helps!
    >>>Yes, I could create my own, if only I could find the ingredients. My
    >>>point is that where I live in the South of France it is difficult to
    >>>find anything but the most basic spices. Cumin is unheard of. When we
    >>>were in Carcassonne today I came across a small packet of something
    >>>called Mexican spices. Havent tried it yet, but maybe it will be good
    >>>for making chili.
    >>In the South of France are there no Middle Eastern populations or
    >>Arabs? Cumin is widely used in their cooking. And so are hot peppers
    >>used for seasoning. Cumin is used in Middle Eastern foods such as
    >>hummus and much else. I thought France had a sizeable African
    >>population?
    >
    > Cumin is unheard of in the south of France??? I will have to check that out
    > when I am there next summer. Here in Paris, even our little local
    > convenience story has cumin.
    >
    > Donna Evleth
Not in this section of the South of France. I have hopes, though. Many
of the grocery stores in the area are enlarging their area dna expanding
their stock. The LeClerc in Limoux has been greatly enlarged and
expanded. The Champion in Quillan has enlarged their surface area but
now psradoxically seem to have a smaller selection of things than they
used to have. They no longer have my favorite Bonne Maman cookies. ;-(
 
Old Nov 17th 2004, 3:57 am
  #44  
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Ellie C wrote:

    > Donna Evleth wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Rita
    >> <[email protected]> a écrit :
    >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:49:26 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>> Rita wrote:
    >>>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:13:35 +0100, Ellie C
    >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>> Rita wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:34:03 GMT, poldy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>>>>>> Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in spices in Paris?
    >>>>>>>>> Or, if not
    >>>>>>>>> one specialising in them, one that carries a wide selection.
    >>>>>>>>> I'm looking
    >>>>>>>>> for things like whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of
    >>>>>>>>> chili
    >> powder.
    >>>>>>>> I don't know what the first two are but is chili powder part of
    >>>>>>>> Parisian
    >>>>>>>> cuisine?
    >>>>>>> The Americanized version of chili powder is different from what is
    >>>>>>> called chili powder in Indian and other Asian cooking. The latter
    >>>>>>> is made from hot peppers, while the America version contains cumin
    >>>>>>> and other spices and herbs. I'd say an Asian food market would have
    >>>>>>> what the poster wants, particularly an Indian market.
    >>>>>> Actually, I'm looking for the kind used in American Tex-Mex cooking.
    >>>>>> I'll be in Paris for a weekend, so I thought I'd look for it there,
    >>>>>> since Paris is just a bit more cosmopolitan than Espéraza. ;-)
    >>>>> Create your own. The jar on my spice shelf contains:
    >>>>> Powdered chili pepper, salt, cumin seed, oregano and garlic
    >>>>> powder. Use the chili pepper to reach the degree of "heat"
    >>>>> you like best. When I am out of the packaged stuff, I mix
    >>>>> my own by taste. Hope this helps!
    >>>> Yes, I could create my own, if only I could find the ingredients. My
    >>>> point is that where I live in the South of France it is difficult to
    >>>> find anything but the most basic spices. Cumin is unheard of. When we
    >>>> were in Carcassonne today I came across a small packet of something
    >>>> called Mexican spices. Havent tried it yet, but maybe it will be good
    >>>> for making chili.
    >>> In the South of France are there no Middle Eastern populations or
    >>> Arabs? Cumin is widely used in their cooking. And so are hot peppers
    >>> used for seasoning. Cumin is used in Middle Eastern foods such as
    >>> hummus and much else. I thought France had a sizeable African
    >>> population?
    >> Cumin is unheard of in the south of France??? I will have to check
    >> that out
    >> when I am there next summer. Here in Paris, even our little local
    >> convenience story has cumin.
    >> Donna Evleth
    >
    > Not in this section of the South of France. I have hopes, though. Many
    > of the grocery stores in the area are enlarging their area dna expanding
    > their stock. The LeClerc in Limoux has been greatly enlarged and
    > expanded. The Champion in Quillan has enlarged their surface area but
    > now psradoxically seem to have a smaller selection of things than they
    > used to have. They no longer have my favorite Bonne Maman cookies. ;-(


It does appear that life there will require occasional buying trips to
civilization for necessary supplies. I would suggest trying to have the
cookies shipped from the US but they would probably get crushed and the
postage would raise the price.

Did the store with the larger surface area simply increase the aisle
width or are they having immense stocks of fewer items?
 
Old Nov 17th 2004, 3:58 am
  #45  
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Ellie C wrote:

    > Frank F. Matthews wrote:
    >
    >> Ellie C wrote:
    >>> Magda wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:11:08 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C
    >>>> <[email protected]>
    >>>> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >>>> ... poldy wrote:
    >>>> ... ... > In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>> ... > Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> ... > ... > ... >>Can anyone recommend a shop specializing in
    >>>> spices in Paris? Or, if not ... >>one specialising in them, one
    >>>> that carries a wide selection. I'm looking ... >>for things like
    >>>> whole cardamom, fenugreek, various mixtures of chili powder.
    >>>> ... > ... > ... > I don't know what the first two are but is
    >>>> chili powder part of Parisian ... > cuisine?
    >>>> ... ... I'd be surprised if chili powder is part of Parisian
    >>>> cuisine. But I ... would expect a store specializing in spices to
    >>>> carry things that are not ... part of the local cuisine.
    >>>> Not sure, but "quatre épices" may be close to what you are looking for.
    >>>> Otherwise, strong paprika ? Or piments-oiseaux - a single one made
    >>>> my ratatouille absolute
    >>>> hell !
    >>> Paprika is quite different from Mexican style chili powder. But, that
    >>> said, the paprika available here is very mild. I'm not familiar with
    >>> "quatre épices" Do you know what the four spices are? Sounds
    >>> interesting.
    >> Now that Hungary is in the EU perhaps they will be exporting the full
    >> range of Paprikas that they produce.
    > Something about pigs flying comes into my mind... ;-)


I was hoping that the famous French solidity with the EU might help.
 


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