Right.. They got all of these currencies together, and came up with a single currency
that is closer to the dollar than any of the older currencies were. Do you really
believe they weren't trying to mimick the dollar? Get real, the Lira was about 2200
to the dollar last year. Why do they now use a currency that is approximately equal
to the dollar? They should have put dollar in the name, that is what they wanted.

ntmarzolino wrote:
    > Whatever, the currency is the EURO and there is no need to use dollar in the name.
    > > You're in danger of making unwarranted assumptions about my nationality
    > and
    > > domicile...;-)
    > >
    > >

"Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)" wrote:
    > "John.Stolz" wrote:
    > >
    > > Can't we just call them Euro-dollars and have done with it?
    > How about just adopting the same currency, world-wide, and merely calling it
    > "money"?

Everyone could adopt the same language and call it "English"

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
<[email protected]> writes
    >Right.. They got all of these currencies together, and came up with a single
    >currency that is closer to the dollar than any of the older currencies were. Do you
    >really believe they weren't trying to mimick the dollar? Get real, the Lira was
    >about 2200 to the dollar last year. Why do they now use a currency that is
    >approximately equal to the dollar? They should have put dollar in the name, that is
    >what they wanted.

You really are unaware of the European antipathy to the USA, aren't you? That is
the *last* thing they wuld do.

M
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[email protected]

Or Mandarin?

David Lewis wrote:

    > You really are unaware of the European antipathy to the USA, aren't you? That is
    > the *last* thing they wuld do.

Really? Then how did they determine how much to make a Euro worth? Most of the
currencies had values that took multiples of that currency to make a dollar. Now
there is a single currency that is about the value of a dollar.

[email protected] (David) writes:

    > I was amazed by the outcome of a recent survey in UK which asked the public how
    > many Euros represented a GBP. Only about 20% came close, and the average of answers
    > given was about 17. The real answer is
    > 1.58. So it looks like many UK tourists are gunna get ripped of this year... Dave

Most British people are extremely ignorant about finance - many millions quite
happily make regular heavy use of credit cards with appallingly high rates of
interest, and a large proportion don't save nearly enough for their retirement. So
this is par for the course. But you've also got to remember that there has been no
public information campaign about the euro, and only those people that have travelled
to the eurozone in 2002 will have personally encountered it.

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-- Chris.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
<[email protected]> writes
    >David Lewis wrote:
    >> You really are unaware of the European antipathy to the USA, aren't you? That
    >> is the *last* thing they wuld do.
    >Really? Then how did they determine how much to make a Euro worth? Most of the
    >currencies had values that took multiples of that currency to make a dollar. Now
    >there is a single currency that is about the value of a dollar.

But it wasn't when it began. The Euro has increased in value in relation to the
dollar. To us the Eurp is worth more than the dollar and it is climbing.

Believe me, if the anti-Euro camp in the UK believed in what you write, they would
use it as a very powerful propaganda point against conversion to the Euro.

But they don't. Guess why.
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Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:53:44 -0700, "Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >"John.Stolz" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Can't we just call them Euro-dollars and have done with it?
    > >
    > >How about just adopting the same currency, world-wide, and merely calling it
    > >"money"? (Think how that would simplify travel - no "exchange rates", no worrying
    > >about which travelers checks to buy or whether the ATM machines "spoke" English
    > ><or your language of choice>.....)
    > In 1950's science fiction, they had "Intergalactic Credits" didn't they?

In Orwell's 1984 (written in 1948)the currency is dollars, although (because?) the
book is taken to be a critique of totalitarianism.

Cynthia www.smilingeggplant.com

David Lewis wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > <[email protected]> writes
    >>David Lewis wrote:
    >>> You really are unaware of the European antipathy to the USA, aren't you? That
    >>> is the *last* thing they wuld do.
    >>Really? Then how did they determine how much to make a Euro worth? Most of the
    >>currencies had values that took multiples of that currency to make a dollar. Now
    >>there is a single currency that is about the value of a dollar.
    > But it wasn't when it began. The Euro has increased in value in relation to the
    > dollar. To us the Eurp is worth more than the dollar and it is climbing.

Actually it's back to around USD 0.98. And it no longer seems to be climbing.
Stabilized, sort of. And surprise, surprise, at a sensible value, for a change.

Keith Anderson wrote:
    > In 1950's science fiction, they had "Intergalactic Credits" didn't they?

Not just 1950's - they still do (some kind of universal currency, anyway - although
it's surprising how infrequently it comes up in fiction.) Actually, I think most
contemporary science-fiction sort of assumes that everything is computerized, people
pay by a sort of universal debit card, their wages are simply credited to their
accounts - it's all electronic.... Hey wait a minute - that sounds pretty much like
the world we live in now!

"[email protected]" wrote:
    > "John.Stolz" wrote:
    > >
    > > Can't we just call them Euro-dollars and have done with it?
    > Then they would have to come up with Euro cents...

Haven't they already?

    > It's not going to happen

"[email protected]" wrote:
    > Everyone could adopt the same language and call it "English"

The perception of too many of my fellow-countrymen seems to be that we already have!

Yeah, I agree with your first point. the big four main banks take advantage of
customer ignorance in a number of ways.

The worrying thing about the survey (and I only know the detail from the TV report)
is the ignorance of the people they showed interviewed: " I dont know and I dont
really care" was a typical response. Scary stuff from a self employed businessman....
As a UK res living in mainland Europe thsi is not the way to compete, or get the best
from international relations :-) Dave


    > Most British people are extremely ignorant about finance - many millions quite
    > happily make regular heavy use of credit cards with appallingly high rates of
    > interest, and a large proportion don't save nearly enough for their retirement. So
    > this is par for the course. But you've also got to remember that there has been no
    > public information campaign about the euro, and only those people that have
    > travelled to the eurozone in 2002 will have personally encountered it.

Where exactly is the problem in having a language that is understood globally? And doesn't it make sense that this language would be the one already most widely spoken?

Sure more people speak Mandarin Chinese, but almost all of those are up to their knees in a rice paddy.

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:21:08 GMT, [email protected] wrote in
<[email protected]>:

    >Right.. They got all of these currencies together, and came up with a single
    >currency that is closer to the dollar than any of the older currencies were. Do you
    >really believe they weren't trying to mimick the dollar?

We've been through this before. You may want to do a Google groups search.


    >Get real, the Lira was about 2200 to the dollar last year. Why do they now use a
    >currency that is approximately equal to the dollar?

In short: The value of the euro dates back to 1978. It would take the sort of
foresight that would have made them billionaires to predict that the values of the
two currencies would be so close 21 years late.

The euro was closer to the GBP back then.

    >They should have put dollar in the name, that is what they wanted.

Can you spell "ego"?

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Cheers,

Chris