Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
May 31st 2005, 12:09 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
nitram wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>their parents treat them.
>
>
> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
> pets.
But "passive" and "well-behaved" are two different things!
Sure, "bright" children are active, but they are also bright
enough to understand at quite an early age that there are
places where they are expected to curb their "activity"
because it is not appropriate to their surroundings.
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>their parents treat them.
>
>
> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
> pets.
But "passive" and "well-behaved" are two different things!
Sure, "bright" children are active, but they are also bright
enough to understand at quite an early age that there are
places where they are expected to curb their "activity"
because it is not appropriate to their surroundings.
May 31st 2005, 12:14 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
nitram wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>>Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>>>their parents treat them.
>>>In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>>>pets.
>>Passive and well-mannered are not the same thing.
>
>
> That depends on your definition of well mannered.
Actually, in a restaurant, I'd define it as not running
around the room pestering other guests. Chattering and
playing with the adults and other children at their own
table is fine, so long as it doesn't spill over into the
rest of the dining room.
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>>Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>>>their parents treat them.
>>>In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>>>pets.
>>Passive and well-mannered are not the same thing.
>
>
> That depends on your definition of well mannered.
Actually, in a restaurant, I'd define it as not running
around the room pestering other guests. Chattering and
playing with the adults and other children at their own
table is fine, so long as it doesn't spill over into the
rest of the dining room.
May 31st 2005, 12:20 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich
tesco wrote:
> Donna Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>From: The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
>
> []
>
>>>Children are not impressed by pretension - perhaps that's why some
>>>people find them so threatening.
>>Neither are dogs, and perhaps that's why some people find them so
>>threatening as well.
>
>
> No, there are many legitimate reasons why some people find dogs
> threatening, and it's about a lot more than a battle of wits.
But that should not include well-behaved dogs accompanying
their owners in public places! Unaccompanied dogs are more
likely than cats to initiated aggression toward strange
humans (cats are more inclined to run away - they KNOW
they're the superior species, so see no need to prove it).
HOwever, we weren't speaking of dogs running loose, were we?
>
tesco wrote:
> Donna Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>From: The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
>
> []
>
>>>Children are not impressed by pretension - perhaps that's why some
>>>people find them so threatening.
>>Neither are dogs, and perhaps that's why some people find them so
>>threatening as well.
>
>
> No, there are many legitimate reasons why some people find dogs
> threatening, and it's about a lot more than a battle of wits.
But that should not include well-behaved dogs accompanying
their owners in public places! Unaccompanied dogs are more
likely than cats to initiated aggression toward strange
humans (cats are more inclined to run away - they KNOW
they're the superior species, so see no need to prove it).
HOwever, we weren't speaking of dogs running loose, were we?
>
May 31st 2005, 12:24 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... To be fair, I've not seen many European children doing so,
... either! Not even when I had dinner in Hippopatamus in
... Paris, and there was a large family birthday party, complete
... with small children, at the next table.
I have lived here for a long time.
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... To be fair, I've not seen many European children doing so,
... either! Not even when I had dinner in Hippopatamus in
... Paris, and there was a large family birthday party, complete
... with small children, at the next table.
I have lived here for a long time.
May 31st 2005, 12:36 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
On Tue, 31 May 2005 17:20:43 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram <[email protected]> arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Tue, 31 May 2005 17:16:39 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:40:19 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram <[email protected]> arranged
... >some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:33 +0200, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
... > ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On 2005-05-30 21:48:54 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> said:
... > ...
... > ... >> I've never seen a dog running around/crying/screaming/fighting/being
... > ... >> rude/making demands
... > ... >> in a restaurant and annoying the staff and everybody else.
... > ... >
... > ... >Not everyone behaves like you do, deary.
... > ...
... > ... Gaston: 10 points
... >
... >MINUS 10 points.
... >
... >I bet his daughter behaves like a hellion in any public place... Parents of nice children
... >don't like hellions, either.
...
... He read what you wrote to mean that it was you running
... around/crying/screaming/fighting/being rude/making demands.
Oh, he can't read... It explains a lot.
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Tue, 31 May 2005 17:16:39 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:40:19 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram <[email protected]> arranged
... >some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:33 +0200, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
... > ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On 2005-05-30 21:48:54 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> said:
... > ...
... > ... >> I've never seen a dog running around/crying/screaming/fighting/being
... > ... >> rude/making demands
... > ... >> in a restaurant and annoying the staff and everybody else.
... > ... >
... > ... >Not everyone behaves like you do, deary.
... > ...
... > ... Gaston: 10 points
... >
... >MINUS 10 points.
... >
... >I bet his daughter behaves like a hellion in any public place... Parents of nice children
... >don't like hellions, either.
...
... He read what you wrote to mean that it was you running
... around/crying/screaming/fighting/being rude/making demands.
Oh, he can't read... It explains a lot.
May 31st 2005, 12:48 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich
> tesco wrote:
>
> > Donna Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>From: The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
> >
> > []
> >
> >>>Children are not impressed by pretension - perhaps that's why some
> >>>people find them so threatening.
> >>
> >>Neither are dogs, and perhaps that's why some people find them so
> >>threatening as well.
> >
> >
> > No, there are many legitimate reasons why some people find dogs
> > threatening, and it's about a lot more than a battle of wits.
>
> But that should not include well-behaved dogs accompanying
> their owners in public places!
There are plenty of badly behaved dogs accompanying their owners in
public places. Indeed, people have been killed by such animals. However,
I agree- Parisian poodles won't usually attack you, but it does seem
that a lot of their owners don't mind them crapping on the pavement, and
that bothers me.
> Unaccompanied dogs are more
> likely than cats to initiated aggression toward strange
> humans (cats are more inclined to run away - they KNOW
> they're the superior species, so see no need to prove it).
> HOwever, we weren't speaking of dogs running loose, were we?
I was simply responding to Donna's assertion that people are "perhaps"
threatened by dogs because they are not impressed by pretension.
In the UK, cats are allowed to roam free. It has its drawbacks- I
frequently get cat shit in my garden. A dusting of cayenne pepper tends
to keep them away from their favourite spots though, and I make a point
of chucking a bucket of water over any cat in my garden whenever the
opportunity presents itself.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich
> tesco wrote:
>
> > Donna Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>From: The Rev Gaston <[email protected]>
> >
> > []
> >
> >>>Children are not impressed by pretension - perhaps that's why some
> >>>people find them so threatening.
> >>
> >>Neither are dogs, and perhaps that's why some people find them so
> >>threatening as well.
> >
> >
> > No, there are many legitimate reasons why some people find dogs
> > threatening, and it's about a lot more than a battle of wits.
>
> But that should not include well-behaved dogs accompanying
> their owners in public places!
There are plenty of badly behaved dogs accompanying their owners in
public places. Indeed, people have been killed by such animals. However,
I agree- Parisian poodles won't usually attack you, but it does seem
that a lot of their owners don't mind them crapping on the pavement, and
that bothers me.
> Unaccompanied dogs are more
> likely than cats to initiated aggression toward strange
> humans (cats are more inclined to run away - they KNOW
> they're the superior species, so see no need to prove it).
> HOwever, we weren't speaking of dogs running loose, were we?
I was simply responding to Donna's assertion that people are "perhaps"
threatened by dogs because they are not impressed by pretension.
In the UK, cats are allowed to roam free. It has its drawbacks- I
frequently get cat shit in my garden. A dusting of cayenne pepper tends
to keep them away from their favourite spots though, and I make a point
of chucking a bucket of water over any cat in my garden whenever the
opportunity presents itself.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 31st 2005, 1:11 pm
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Andy Pandy wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Many people are put off booking accomodation in places which welcome
> >
> > pets -
> >
> >>something this survey no doubt ignored.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dogs spread ticks, fleas, and ringworm. They can leave this vermin
behind
> > in furniture, carpets, etc.
> That may be true - however, well cared for dogs do not,
> because they have none to spread. I seriously doubt whether
> the kind of people who are willing to spend the extra money
> it costs them to travel with a pet would be among the kind
> of pet owners who neglect their animal's well-being.
Oh I've met plenty of well - heeled and even wealthy people who have the
money to travel with their pets - and they also are irresponsible and
neglect the health of their pets...
There should be a means test for those who wish to have pets, but alas there
is not (I'd like a means test for prospective human parents, too)...
--
Best
Greg
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Andy Pandy wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Many people are put off booking accomodation in places which welcome
> >
> > pets -
> >
> >>something this survey no doubt ignored.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dogs spread ticks, fleas, and ringworm. They can leave this vermin
behind
> > in furniture, carpets, etc.
> That may be true - however, well cared for dogs do not,
> because they have none to spread. I seriously doubt whether
> the kind of people who are willing to spend the extra money
> it costs them to travel with a pet would be among the kind
> of pet owners who neglect their animal's well-being.
Oh I've met plenty of well - heeled and even wealthy people who have the
money to travel with their pets - and they also are irresponsible and
neglect the health of their pets...
There should be a means test for those who wish to have pets, but alas there
is not (I'd like a means test for prospective human parents, too)...
--
Best
Greg
May 31st 2005, 1:13 pm
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Magda wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 May 2005 10:05:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> >
> > ...
> > ... I think I'd find international travel with a pet more than I
> > ... could manage - fortunately, cats are seldom good (and
> > ... certainly not eager) travelers, so for me the problem isn't
> > ... likely to arise. I just leave them at home in familiar
> > ... surroundings, and have someone come in to feed and play with
> > ... them while I'm gone. (I may talk about emigrating, but the
> > ... practical considerations pretty well insure it is only talk.)
> > ...
> > ... Your experience with hotels surprises me, since Paris
> > ... restaurants don't seem to share that prejudice (nor do those
> > ... in Brussels or Vienna).
> >
> > French dogs are much better behaved than children.
> That's been my observation, too - better behaved than some
> American children, at least. (As were all the Belgian and
> Austrian dogs I encountered in restaurants.)
I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
--
Best
Greg
> Magda wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 May 2005 10:05:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> >
> > ...
> > ... I think I'd find international travel with a pet more than I
> > ... could manage - fortunately, cats are seldom good (and
> > ... certainly not eager) travelers, so for me the problem isn't
> > ... likely to arise. I just leave them at home in familiar
> > ... surroundings, and have someone come in to feed and play with
> > ... them while I'm gone. (I may talk about emigrating, but the
> > ... practical considerations pretty well insure it is only talk.)
> > ...
> > ... Your experience with hotels surprises me, since Paris
> > ... restaurants don't seem to share that prejudice (nor do those
> > ... in Brussels or Vienna).
> >
> > French dogs are much better behaved than children.
> That's been my observation, too - better behaved than some
> American children, at least. (As were all the Belgian and
> Austrian dogs I encountered in restaurants.)
I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
--
Best
Greg
May 31st 2005, 1:34 pm
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Gregory Morrow
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
[]
> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?) and
many parts of the US are more enlightened, but it's taking its time
here.
I am becoming a bit of a rude diner, as far as cancer sticks are
concerned. Last Friday, we decided to dine in Manchester's Chinatown.
First stop was a Vietnamese place- new- which seemed promising. Went in-
saw ashtrays on every table- and left, telling the manager why. We then
tried another restaurant, and asked for a non-smoking table. He took us
to a table which had ashtrays on it- and two tables away a diner (the
only one among a group of four) was puffing away, stinking up the place.
We left- again, I said why. We eventually went to a nice place we've
been to many times- large dining area, and with good ventilation, so you
don't get bothered by someone smoking at the other side. We asked for
non-smoking, and ordered some dim sum as starters. Just as we finished,
a young mother lit up next to her young kids at a big circular 'family'
table next to us. We complained to the waiter- and they apologised and
moved us away from them. Not ideal- as I complained to them- but better
than nothing. The rest of the meal was fine. The government claims
they'll ban smoking in restaurants here within a couple of years. Well,
I hope so.
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<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
[]
> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?) and
many parts of the US are more enlightened, but it's taking its time
here.
I am becoming a bit of a rude diner, as far as cancer sticks are
concerned. Last Friday, we decided to dine in Manchester's Chinatown.
First stop was a Vietnamese place- new- which seemed promising. Went in-
saw ashtrays on every table- and left, telling the manager why. We then
tried another restaurant, and asked for a non-smoking table. He took us
to a table which had ashtrays on it- and two tables away a diner (the
only one among a group of four) was puffing away, stinking up the place.
We left- again, I said why. We eventually went to a nice place we've
been to many times- large dining area, and with good ventilation, so you
don't get bothered by someone smoking at the other side. We asked for
non-smoking, and ordered some dim sum as starters. Just as we finished,
a young mother lit up next to her young kids at a big circular 'family'
table next to us. We complained to the waiter- and they apologised and
moved us away from them. Not ideal- as I complained to them- but better
than nothing. The rest of the meal was fine. The government claims
they'll ban smoking in restaurants here within a couple of years. Well,
I hope so.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 31st 2005, 1:51 pm
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
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> Gregory Morrow
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> []
>> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
> All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
> concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?)
Sweden since 3h ago.
No smoking in public restaurants from June 01-2005
No smoking in public transport nor indoor public places since several years.
<[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:1gxghf6.16o8gmg2flbn2N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> Gregory Morrow
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> []
>> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
> All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
> concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?)
Sweden since 3h ago.
No smoking in public restaurants from June 01-2005
No smoking in public transport nor indoor public places since several years.
May 31st 2005, 1:54 pm
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Lennart Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1gxghf6.16o8gmg2flbn2N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> > Gregory Morrow
> > <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > []
> >> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
> >
> > All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
> > concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?)
> Sweden since 3h ago.
Good for you. Hooray!
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> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
> <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1gxghf6.16o8gmg2flbn2N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> > Gregory Morrow
> > <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > []
> >> I prefer the restaurants I patronise to be both child *and* dog - free...
> >
> > All things considered, I'm far more concerned about cigarette smoke. I
> > concede that some of Europe (e.g. Norway, Ireland, Italy, who else?)
> Sweden since 3h ago.
Good for you. Hooray!
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 31st 2005, 2:31 pm
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"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
:
> ... To be fair, I've not seen many European children doing so,
> ... either! Not even when I had dinner in Hippopatamus in
> ... Paris, and there was a large family birthday party, complete
> ... with small children, at the next table.
> I have lived here for a long time.
at the table huh? Sounds neat.
Hey - you ought to look into renting your table out for a few months to one
of your friends or some thing - they could keep a seat open for your
visits <G>
mk5000
"Memories for September 11th also suffer from inconsistencies: studies by
Peter Lee and Norman Brown as well as Marilyn Smith and colleagues showed
that on average, only 65 percent of memory details remained consistent
between the first test and the second. In fact, Nesser himself has a false
memory for the announcment of the bombing of Pearl Harbor"--Daniel Greenberg
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
:
> ... To be fair, I've not seen many European children doing so,
> ... either! Not even when I had dinner in Hippopatamus in
> ... Paris, and there was a large family birthday party, complete
> ... with small children, at the next table.
> I have lived here for a long time.
at the table huh? Sounds neat.
Hey - you ought to look into renting your table out for a few months to one
of your friends or some thing - they could keep a seat open for your
visits <G>
mk5000
"Memories for September 11th also suffer from inconsistencies: studies by
Peter Lee and Norman Brown as well as Marilyn Smith and colleagues showed
that on average, only 65 percent of memory details remained consistent
between the first test and the second. In fact, Nesser himself has a false
memory for the announcment of the bombing of Pearl Harbor"--Daniel Greenberg
May 31st 2005, 5:23 pm
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On 2005-06-01 01:48:58 +0200, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Unaesthetic, perhaps (and annoying, if one discovers it by
>>> stepping in it), but hardly life-threatening! 8-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure it can Evelyn - ever slip on dog shite and fall?
>
> LOL! No, but then I generally look where I'm going!
Too bad for you - Paris has lots of sights at above-pavement height. If
you're constantl on your guard for dog shit you miss them.
G;
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<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Unaesthetic, perhaps (and annoying, if one discovers it by
>>> stepping in it), but hardly life-threatening! 8-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure it can Evelyn - ever slip on dog shite and fall?
>
> LOL! No, but then I generally look where I'm going!
Too bad for you - Paris has lots of sights at above-pavement height. If
you're constantl on your guard for dog shit you miss them.
G;
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May 31st 2005, 5:24 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
On 2005-06-01 02:09:20 +0200, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> nitram wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>
>>> Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>> their parents treat them.
>>
>>
>> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>> pets.
>
> But "passive" and "well-behaved" are two different things! Sure,
> "bright" children are active, but they are also bright enough to
> understand at quite an early age that there are places where they are
> expected to curb their "activity" because it is not appropriate to
> their surroundings.
Your definition of "appropriate".
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<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> nitram wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>
>>> Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>> their parents treat them.
>>
>>
>> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>> pets.
>
> But "passive" and "well-behaved" are two different things! Sure,
> "bright" children are active, but they are also bright enough to
> understand at quite an early age that there are places where they are
> expected to curb their "activity" because it is not appropriate to
> their surroundings.
Your definition of "appropriate".
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May 31st 2005, 5:25 pm
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Re: Britain beastly to travelling dog owners
On 2005-06-01 02:14:51 +0200, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> nitram wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>>>> their parents treat them.
>>>>
>>>> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>>>> pets.
>>>
>>> Passive and well-mannered are not the same thing.
>>
>>
>> That depends on your definition of well mannered.
>
> Actually, in a restaurant, I'd define it as not running around the room
> pestering other guests. Chattering and playing with the adults and
> other children at their own table is fine, so long as it doesn't spill
> over into the rest of the dining room.
So - that's your definition, but that definition isn't universal.
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<[email protected]> said:
>
>
> nitram wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:56:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:26:01 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice/dim children sit still like a dog, bright children are active.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bollocks. Bright children can be well-mannered. A lot depends on how
>>>>> their parents treat them.
>>>>
>>>> In general passive children are not bright. Children aren't dogs or
>>>> pets.
>>>
>>> Passive and well-mannered are not the same thing.
>>
>>
>> That depends on your definition of well mannered.
>
> Actually, in a restaurant, I'd define it as not running around the room
> pestering other guests. Chattering and playing with the adults and
> other children at their own table is fine, so long as it doesn't spill
> over into the rest of the dining room.
So - that's your definition, but that definition isn't universal.
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