Frank F. Matthews

Then why do they continue the wild accusations in this group (RTE)?

It looks like fear to me. NOw not everyone in Calgary but someone.

JamesDumm wrote:

    > With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid of
    > maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
    > airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
    > scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!
    >
snip

Ken McVaySOBC

With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid of
maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!


On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:48:44 -0600, GeorgeF <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The police have admitted to 24 corpses so far this year, with a significant
    >increase from last year. Mind you, if the corpse is found outside city limits,
    >such as the dozens of "sex trade workers" killed by a local serial murderer,
    >found in nearby fields, they do NOT include these in their stats.
    >Population is still around half million for the city of Deadmonton.
    >On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:55:37 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>But it ca skyrocket and still be safer than NYC which is pretty safe.
    >>Are you challenging the data. And if you are what are your figures and
    >>the source of them?
    >>As to DEADmonton I thought that was a reference to the lack of night life?
    >>GeorgeF wrote:
    >>> The murder rate is skyrocketing, to the point where the place is now called
    >>> DEADmonton! Don't forget with a population of only around half a million, most
    >>> of whom are welfare bums,natives and the like....
    >>>
    >>> Apparently the crooked cops are so useless, they can't even catch a cold, let
    >>> alone murderers!1
    >>>
    >>> Mind you, with all the crooked op\police chiefs in recent years, it could be
    >>> that there are no competent honest cops left?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:09:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>And Barney2 says that not only are they wrong they are off by more than
    >>>>a factor of 2 (a rate of 3.4 vs 7).
    >>>>George wrote:
    >>>>>Canadian media reported that Edmonton Canada now has more murders per capita
    >>>>>than NYC!!
    >>>>>Apart from rapes, stabbings,muggings and all the other incidents as a result
    >>>>>of being the welfare capital of North America!!
    >>>>>On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:43:57 GMT, Brian Wickham <bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com>
    >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>So what's the significance of NYC in the subject line? Why are you
    >>>>>>comparing the safest large city in the US to a dangerous small city in
    >>>>>>Canada?
    >>>
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"Ken McVaySOBC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid
    > of
    > maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
    > airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
    > scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!

Are Calgarians too Stupid to realise Edmonton isnt in Europe
or is it just you ?

Keith

michaelnewport

Keith W wrote:
    > "Ken McVaySOBC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid
    > > of
    > > maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
    > > airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
    > > scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!
    > Are Calgarians too Stupid to realise Edmonton isnt in Europe
    > or is it just you ?
    >
    > Keith

its in north London !

michaelnewport

[email protected] wrote:
    > Keith W wrote:
    > > "Ken McVaySOBC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid
    > > > of
    > > > maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
    > > > airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
    > > > scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!
    > >
    > > Are Calgarians too Stupid to realise Edmonton isnt in Europe
    > > or is it just you ?
    > >
    > > Keith
    > its in north London !

and i'll be buggered, Calgary is in Scotland !!

Frank F. Matthews

Well. When I asked why the data on Edmonton was constantly being fudged
the only response mentioned that they were afraid of losing the flight.
It makes sense that citizens in an afraid city would spend time
badmouthing the competition.

Ken McVaySOBC wrote:

    > With reference to Frank Mathews comment, people in Calgary are not afraid of
    > maybe losing one flight to Deadmonton, because they know that any honest
    > airline executive will continue the boycott of the rogues,knaves and
    > scoundrels running the Leduc moosepasture calling itself an airport!!
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:48:44 -0600, GeorgeF <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>The police have admitted to 24 corpses so far this year, with a significant
    >>increase from last year. Mind you, if the corpse is found outside city limits,
    >>such as the dozens of "sex trade workers" killed by a local serial murderer,
    >>found in nearby fields, they do NOT include these in their stats.
    >>Population is still around half million for the city of Deadmonton.
    >>On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:55:37 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>But it ca skyrocket and still be safer than NYC which is pretty safe.
    >>>Are you challenging the data. And if you are what are your figures and
    >>>the source of them?
    >>>As to DEADmonton I thought that was a reference to the lack of night life?
    >>>GeorgeF wrote:
    >>>>The murder rate is skyrocketing, to the point where the place is now called
    >>>>DEADmonton! Don't forget with a population of only around half a million, most
    >>>>of whom are welfare bums,natives and the like....
    >>>>Apparently the crooked cops are so useless, they can't even catch a cold, let
    >>>>alone murderers!1
    >>>>Mind you, with all the crooked op\police chiefs in recent years, it could be
    >>>>that there are no competent honest cops left?
    >>>>On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:09:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>And Barney2 says that not only are they wrong they are off by more than
    >>>>>a factor of 2 (a rate of 3.4 vs 7).
    >>>>>George wrote:
    >>>>>>Canadian media reported that Edmonton Canada now has more murders per capita
    >>>>>>than NYC!!
    >>>>>>Apart from rapes, stabbings,muggings and all the other incidents as a result
    >>>>>>of being the welfare capital of North America!!
    >>>>>>On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:43:57 GMT, Brian Wickham <bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com>
    >>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>So what's the significance of NYC in the subject line? Why are you
    >>>>>>>comparing the safest large city in the US to a dangerous small city in
    >>>>>>>Canada?
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No, bill frogg, DeadmontonCanada is NOT in Europe, even though there is a
suburb of London England also called Edmonton.

However, Lufthansa is being approached by certain people from Canada, to try
and con them into flying to Edmonton instead of the thriving metropolis known
as CALGARY which has almost triple the air passengers!

That is why the information is of concern to people in Europe, who may not
know about all the crime and dangers involved when visiting Edmonton Canada.

Even today's news headlined a stabbing where the victim had 15 knife wounds,
followed moments later by another gang shooting!!

Now,with 31corpses so far this year, YEG has a higher murder rate than
anywhere else in Canada!!


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:29:57 -0700, bill frogg <[email protected]>
wrote:
    >On 2005-08-11 15:33:59 -0700, Asterix <[email protected]> said:
    >> Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
    >> of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?
    >> Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE
    >> KILLER - because he is one of their own?

    >> From: [email protected] (glork) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Edmonton
    >> Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT
    >> INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS Edmonton's murdered women CBC News Online |
    >> Updated June 20, 2005
    >> EDMONTON MURDERS: Interactive map & timeline [Flash
    >> presentation] Get Flash player

    >> Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling
    >> a serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man
    >> they believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000
    >> reward for information leading to his arrest.
    >> The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:
    >> * Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility
    >> vehicle, and is comfortable driving in rural areas. * Likes to
    >> hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities. * Has
    >> a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton, including
    >> Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta. * May clean his vehicle at odd
    >> times of the day.
    >> Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found.
    >> All are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk
    >> lifestyles and only five of the cases have been solved.
    >> The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.
    >> The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated
    >> yearly population of 400 sex trade workers.
    >> Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
    >> Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in
    >> 2003, he said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared,"
    >> since the bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered
    >> that month. "People are a little more hesitant to get out," he said.
    >> "There's a lot of speculation that there's one person who could have
    >> (committed the murders)."
    >> While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of
    >> the deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city
    >> police to explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old
    >> case files involving missing women to see if there is any link to the
    >> most recent crimes.
    >> Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances
    >> since 1983:
    >> * May 6, 2005: The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer,
    >> 33, is found near Sherwood Park.
    >> * April 18, 2005: RCMP in Alberta identify the body of
    >> Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned remains were found near Camrose.
    >> * Jan. 25, 2005: The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen
    >> Berg is discovered under snow in a parking lot on Edmonton's North
    >> Side. The teenager worked in the sex trade.
    >> * June 11, 2004 The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is
    >> found in a wooded area near Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.
    >> * July 7, 2003 The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia
    >> Ballentyne, who worked in the sex trade, is found in Leduc County,
    >> about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the fourth female found outside
    >> Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her body was located in a
    >> field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road 500.
    >> * April 12, 2003 The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie
    >> Lake, a former prostitute, are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon
    >> Lake Provincial Park, approximately 70 km southeast of Edmonton.
    >> * Jan. 12, 2003 20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a
    >> stand of trees on a farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of
    >> Highway 16 in Strathcona County. The discovery is made four days after
    >> the body of Monique Pitre was found less than 10 kilometres away.
    >> There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in
    >> 2003. * Jan. 8, 2003 The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is
    >> found in a field south of Fort Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and
    >> Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire body.
    >> * Sept. 23, 2002 The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard
    >> is found in a field east of Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of
    >> Highway 623.
    >> * Jan. 27, 2001 24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead
    >> behind a gravel operation in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary
    >> highway 633, near Villeneuve.
    >> * Sept. 1, 1997 22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola
    >> field in Sherwood Park (Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.
    >> * June 14, 1997 The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is
    >> found in an alley behind a commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue.
    >> Her body is discovered behind a discarded shelving unit. Edmonton
    >> police have no suspect in her death.
    >> * Oct. 19, 1997 The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood
    >> Park, near 17th Street and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne
    >> Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high- risk lifestyle." The circumstances of
    >> her death were not available.
    >> * Dec. 25, 1996 24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found
    >> strangled in her Edmonton apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police
    >> have no suspect in her death.
    >> * Feb. 11, 1993 The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old
    >> Elaine Ross is found stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd
    >> Street near Stony Plain Road, Edmonton. Autopsy results were
    >> inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown, but police are treating
    >> it as a homicide.
    >> * Dec. 21, 1990 Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and
    >> mother of one, is found strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton
    >> business, West End Studio, at 15526 Stony Plain Road. According to
    >> Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis, several autopsies were
    >> performed, leading investigators to determine "manual strangulation" as
    >> the cause of death.
    >> * Oct. 25, 1990 29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to
    >> death on a rural road west of Edmonton.
    >> * Oct. 25, 1989 Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of
    >> three, is found dead in a ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood
    >> Park.
    >> * Sept. 13, 1988 The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is
    >> found in Elk Island National Park. An exact cause of death is not
    >> determined.
    >> * Sept. 21, 1986 The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel
    >> is found on a hotel-room bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with
    >> a client.
    >> * 1983 The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are
    >> found 10 kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson
    >> Roxanne Beaubien says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause
    >> was determined in her death.
    >> Solved Murders
    >> * 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard
    >> area of Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old
    >> mother had been beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003
    >> and 52-year-old Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged
    >> with second-degree murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder
    >> was connected with the others.
    >> Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and
    >> Action Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press
    >>
    >> On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics [email protected] (glork) wrote:
    >>
    >> Grisly discovery
    >> Female corpse located in area where others found
    >> By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN
    >>
    >> A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just
    >> a few kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found
    >> slain and dumped in Strathcona County.
    >>
    >> "We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson
    >> with the Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east
    >> of Highway 21 and north of Township Road 534.
    >>
    >> "We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for
    >> trying to dispose of a victim.
    >>
    >> "Any death like this is certainly suspicious."
    >>
    >> WORKING THE FIELD
    >>
    >> The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
    >> planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange
    >> in the distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.
    >>
    >> As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers
    >> sealed off the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited
    >> forensics investigators arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.
    >>
    >> The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain
    >> body of Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain
    >> prostitutes were found near Quinney's remains the year before.
    >>
    >> The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton
    >> prostitutes found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with
    >> this latest investigation and was on scene yesterday.
    >>
    >> KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across
    >> the province, some dating back 20 years.
    >>
    >> The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
    >> year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.
    >>
    >> The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at
    >> least some of the prostitute slayings.
    >>
    >> But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have
    >> to be very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know
    >> exactly what we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this
    >> one until we can get the autopsy back."
    >>
    >> An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.
    >>
    >> Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't
    >> speculate on how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had
    >> not been burned, he said.
    >>
    >> 'GREAT PRECAUTION'
    >>
    >> Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and
    >> forensic unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground
    >> level at the beginning," Anderson added.
    >>
    >> Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
    >> believes a serial killer is at work.
    >>
    >> "I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer.
    >> "This is some maniac on a rampage."
    >>
    >> About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when
    >> told a body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her
    >> 10-month-old son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the
    >> area slayings don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the
    >> target. "But still, someone has lost a loved one."
    >>
    >> Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.
    >>
    >> In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead
    >> near where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back
    >> of the head by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.
    >>
    >> There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more
    >> businesses leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!
    >> Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.
    >> He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got
    >> caught giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in
    >> assessment on his house, while shafting neighbours with
    >> over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't you say?
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It appears that Calgary is afraid again. At least here we see the
reason for the campaign.

George Firestone wrote:

    > No, bill frogg, DeadmontonCanada is NOT in Europe, even though there is a
    > suburb of London England also called Edmonton.
    >
    > However, Lufthansa is being approached by certain people from Canada, to try
    > and con them into flying to Edmonton instead of the thriving metropolis known
    > as CALGARY which has almost triple the air passengers!
    >
snip

Trauth

also...another problem in Edmonton is; this is a city that leads
inflation in the country.Consumers in Edmonton are being gauged.
And also the establishment running Edmonton often cover up the
mistakes made by their police department.It ranges from racist to
killing innocent citizens to being rude to citizens.The list is
extensive.



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The city is so corrupt, that no decent cop wants to be considered for the
vacxant Chief of Police job!!

All the honest out of town candidates have withdrawn their names from the list
of possible candidates, when they found out how crooked is the city
management, police commission and the many crooked senior cops.

Yes, cops have been involved in many serious crimes, that have been
publicised, apart from many that they have covered up!


On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:01:42 GMT, trauth <[email protected]> wrote:

    >also...another problem in Edmonton is; this is a city that leads
    >inflation in the country.Consumers in Edmonton are being gauged.
    > And also the establishment running Edmonton often cover up the
    >mistakes made by their police department.It ranges from racist to
    >killing innocent citizens to being rude to citizens.The list is
    >extensive.

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Calgary must have another air service threatened. Soon they will have
to close their airport.

KMarx Spenser wrote:

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Dr . Ernst Zundholtz

No, bill frogg, DeadmontonCanada is NOT in Europe, even though there is a
suburb of London England also called Edmonton.

However, Lufthansa is being approached by certain people from Canada, to try
and con them into flying to Edmonton instead of the thriving metropolis known
as CALGARY which has almost triple the air passengers!

That is why the information is of concern to people in Europe, who may not
know about all the crime and dangers involved when visiting Edmonton Canada.

Even today's news headlined a stabbing where the victim had 15 knife wounds,
followed moments later by another gang shooting!!

Now,with 32 corpses so far this year, YEG has a higher murder rate than
anywhere else in Canada!!


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:29:57 -0700, bill frogg <[email protected]>
wrote:
    >On 2005-08-11 15:33:59 -0700, Asterix <[email protected]> said:
    >> Many residents are starting to wonder, whether the serial killer of the dozens
    >> of women, may in fact be a COP, a lawyer, or even a judge?
    >> Is that why the incompetent Edmonton police, DO NOT WANT TO ARREST THE
    >> KILLER - because he is one of their own?

    >> From: [email protected] (glork) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Edmonton
    >> Alberta - Haven For Serial Killers Date: 8 Aug 2005 20:26:30 GMT
    >> INDEPTH: EDMONTON MURDERS Edmonton's murdered women CBC News Online |
    >> Updated June 20, 2005
    >> EDMONTON MURDERS: Interactive map & timeline [Flash
    >> presentation] Get Flash player

    >> Police in Edmonton are looking for someone whom many people are calling
    >> a serial killer, targeting women. They have released a profile of a man
    >> they believe has killed several prostitutes and have offered a $100,000
    >> reward for information leading to his arrest.
    >> The profile prepared by the RCMP's Behavioural Science Branch suggests he:
    >> * Drives a reliable, high-mileage truck, van or sport utility
    >> vehicle, and is comfortable driving in rural areas. * Likes to
    >> hunt, fish, camp or participate in other outdoor activities. * Has
    >> a past or present connection to the area south of Edmonton, including
    >> Leduc, Camrose and New Sarepta. * May clean his vehicle at odd
    >> times of the day.
    >> Since 1983, the bodies of more than 20 Edmonton women have been found.
    >> All are described by police as being prostitutes or having high-risk
    >> lifestyles and only five of the cases have been solved.
    >> The site where remains of 22-year-old Cara King were found in 1997.
    >> The situation has stoked the growing fear in the city's estimated
    >> yearly population of 400 sex trade workers.
    >> Kourch Chan is a social worker with Crossroads, an outreach program for
    >> Edmonton sex trade workers. In an interview with CBC News Online in
    >> 2003, he said many of his clients had been "nervous and quite scared,"
    >> since the bodies of Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre were discovered
    >> that month. "People are a little more hesitant to get out," he said.
    >> "There's a lot of speculation that there's one person who could have
    >> (committed the murders)."
    >> While RCMP investigators say they have no information to prove any of
    >> the deaths are related, they have joined forces with Edmonton city
    >> police to explore the possibility. City police are reopening all old
    >> case files involving missing women to see if there is any link to the
    >> most recent crimes.
    >> Here is a list of women who have been found under similar circumstances
    >> since 1983:
    >> * May 6, 2005: The body of sex-trade worker Ellie May Meyer,
    >> 33, is found near Sherwood Park.
    >> * April 18, 2005: RCMP in Alberta identify the body of
    >> Charlene Gauld, 20, who burned remains were found near Camrose.
    >> * Jan. 25, 2005: The body of 19-year-old Samantha Tayleen
    >> Berg is discovered under snow in a parking lot on Edmonton's North
    >> Side. The teenager worked in the sex trade.
    >> * June 11, 2004 The body of 19-year-old Rachel Quinney is
    >> found in a wooded area near Sherwood Park, an Edmonton suburb.
    >> * July 7, 2003 The body of 40-year-old Katie Sylvia
    >> Ballentyne, who worked in the sex trade, is found in Leduc County,
    >> about 20 km south of Edmonton. She is the fourth female found outside
    >> Edmonton in 2003, the fifth in 10 months. Her body was located in a
    >> field near Range Road 235, just north of Township Road 500.
    >> * April 12, 2003 The skull and remains of 29-year-old Debbie
    >> Lake, a former prostitute, are found near Highway 623 near Miquelon
    >> Lake Provincial Park, approximately 70 km southeast of Edmonton.
    >> * Jan. 12, 2003 20-year-old Melissa Munch is found dead in a
    >> stand of trees on a farmer's field west of Range Road 220 and south of
    >> Highway 16 in Strathcona County. The discovery is made four days after
    >> the body of Monique Pitre was found less than 10 kilometres away.
    >> There were an estimated 400 sex trade workers in Edmonton in
    >> 2003. * Jan. 8, 2003 The frozen body of Monique Pitre, 30, is
    >> found in a field south of Fort Saskatchewan (Range Road 222 and
    >> Township Rd). There is trauma to her entire body.
    >> * Sept. 23, 2002 The burned body of 28-year-old Edna Bernard
    >> is found in a field east of Leduc, near Range Road 245, north of
    >> Highway 623.
    >> * Jan. 27, 2001 24-year-old Kelly Dawn Reilly is found dead
    >> behind a gravel operation in the area of Range Road 264 and secondary
    >> highway 633, near Villeneuve.
    >> * Sept. 1, 1997 22-year-old Cara King is found in a canola
    >> field in Sherwood Park (Highway 214 and Hwy. 16), east of Edmonton.
    >> * June 14, 1997 The body of 24-year-old Jessica Cardinal is
    >> found in an alley behind a commercial building at 9325-111th Avenue.
    >> Her body is discovered behind a discarded shelving unit. Edmonton
    >> police have no suspect in her death.
    >> * Oct. 19, 1997 The body of Joyce Hewitt is found in Sherwood
    >> Park, near 17th Street and 89th Avenue. RCMP spokesperson Roxanne
    >> Beaubien says Hewitt had a "high- risk lifestyle." The circumstances of
    >> her death were not available.
    >> * Dec. 25, 1996 24-year-old Joanne Ghostkeeper is found
    >> strangled in her Edmonton apartment at 11925-34th Street East. Police
    >> have no suspect in her death.
    >> * Feb. 11, 1993 The partially decomposed body of 25-year-old
    >> Elaine Ross is found stuffed under a bed in a motel room on 183rd
    >> Street near Stony Plain Road, Edmonton. Autopsy results were
    >> inconclusive and a cause of death is unknown, but police are treating
    >> it as a homicide.
    >> * Dec. 21, 1990 Lorraine Wray, a 46-year-old masseuse and
    >> mother of one, is found strangled in the bathroom of her Edmonton
    >> business, West End Studio, at 15526 Stony Plain Road. According to
    >> Edmonton police spokesperson Dean Parthenis, several autopsies were
    >> performed, leading investigators to determine "manual strangulation" as
    >> the cause of death.
    >> * Oct. 25, 1990 29-year-old Mavis Mason is found stabbed to
    >> death on a rural road west of Edmonton.
    >> * Oct. 25, 1989 Bernadette Ahenakew, a 22-year-old mother of
    >> three, is found dead in a ditch alongside a rural road near Sherwood
    >> Park.
    >> * Sept. 13, 1988 The body of 20-year-old Georgette Flint is
    >> found in Elk Island National Park. An exact cause of death is not
    >> determined.
    >> * Sept. 21, 1986 The body of 21-year-old Melodie Joy Riegel
    >> is found on a hotel-room bed. She was last seen entering the hotel with
    >> a client.
    >> * 1983 The skeletal remains of 21-year-old Gail Cardinal are
    >> found 10 kilometres south of Fort Saskatchewan. RCMP spokesperson
    >> Roxanne Beaubien says Cardinal had a "high-risk lifestyle." No cause
    >> was determined in her death.
    >> Solved Murders
    >> * 1993: Linda Giles (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1996: Charmaine Pidlesny (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1999: Sherry Ann Upright (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * 1999: Catherine Ann Burrell (circumstances unavailable)
    >> * April 26, 2001: Ginger Lee Bellerose is found in the courtyard
    >> area of Edmonton's International Hotel (since razed). The 26-year-old
    >> mother had been beaten to death. The murder was solved March 14, 2003
    >> and 52-year-old Medicine Hat resident Richard David Douglas was charged
    >> with second-degree murder. Edmonton police do not suspect this murder
    >> was connected with the others.
    >> Sources: Edmonton Police Service; RCMP; Prostitution Awareness and
    >> Action Foundation of Edmonton; Canadian Press
    >>
    >> On 8 Aug 2005 20:31:40 GMT, in can.politics [email protected] (glork) wrote:
    >>
    >> Grisly discovery
    >> Female corpse located in area where others found
    >> By MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN
    >>
    >> A female corpse discovered Friday by a farmer tilling his field is just
    >> a few kilometres from where three city prostitutes have been found
    >> slain and dumped in Strathcona County.
    >>
    >> "We've had our share of (body) discoveries," Const. Darren Anderson
    >> with the Strathcona County RCMP said yesterday from the scene just east
    >> of Highway 21 and north of Township Road 534.
    >>
    >> "We do have a lot of isolated areas that I guess are convenient for
    >> trying to dispose of a victim.
    >>
    >> "Any death like this is certainly suspicious."
    >>
    >> WORKING THE FIELD
    >>
    >> The farmer was tilling his field with a tractor about 11 p.m. Friday,
    >> planning to work through the night, when he spotted something strange
    >> in the distance, a few hundred metres into the field, said Anderson.
    >>
    >> As soon as the farmer found the body, he called RCMP, and officers
    >> sealed off the area until yesterday morning, when white-suited
    >> forensics investigators arrived and set up a blue tent over the remains.
    >>
    >> The scene is only about six kilometres southwest from where the slain
    >> body of Rachel Quinney, 19, was found in June 2004. Two other slain
    >> prostitutes were found near Quinney's remains the year before.
    >>
    >> The RCMP-led Project KARE team probing the murders of Edmonton
    >> prostitutes found dumped outside the city is providing assistance with
    >> this latest investigation and was on scene yesterday.
    >>
    >> KARE is probing the unsolved deaths of at least 18 prostitutes across
    >> the province, some dating back 20 years.
    >>
    >> The oldest case dates back to 1932 and the most recent to April 16, when 20-
    >> year-old prostitute Charlene Gauld's burned body was found near Camrose.
    >>
    >> The task force has indicated a serial killer may be responsible for at
    >> least some of the prostitute slayings.
    >>
    >> But Anderson yesterday urged against jumping to conclusions. "We have
    >> to be very careful we don't make any speculations ... we don't know
    >> exactly what we're dealing with here. We're really in the dark on this
    >> one until we can get the autopsy back."
    >>
    >> An autopsy is planned for tomorrow morning.
    >>
    >> Anderson said the female's body had decomposed, but he couldn't
    >> speculate on how long it had been there. The body was clothed and had
    >> not been burned, he said.
    >>
    >> 'GREAT PRECAUTION'
    >>
    >> Joining the KARE team yesterday was the RCMP major crimes unit and
    >> forensic unit. "It's a great precaution to have (KARE) at the ground
    >> level at the beginning," Anderson added.
    >>
    >> Jean Archer, whose farm is just south of the latest grisly discovery,
    >> believes a serial killer is at work.
    >>
    >> "I think it's somebody who knows the area pretty well," said Archer.
    >> "This is some maniac on a rampage."
    >>
    >> About a kilometre north of the field, Sally Froese was shocked when
    >> told a body had been found near her home of three years. Holding her
    >> 10-month-old son in her arms, she said she still feels safe because the
    >> area slayings don't seem random - sex-trade workers seem to be the
    >> target. "But still, someone has lost a loved one."
    >>
    >> Today, ground search crews will continue combing the area, looking for clues.
    >>
    >> In 1997, 38-year-old mother of three Connie Grandinetti was found dead
    >> near where Quinney's body was found. She'd been shot twice in the back
    >> of the head by her nephew, who was found guilty of murder in the crime.
    >>
    >> There is so much bad news about this place, with more and more
    >> businesses leaving town, some quietly, others with bad p.r. sessions!
    >> Trauth is telling the truth, and not even ALL of it.
    >> He is not reporting on the crooks in the city tax department, who got
    >> caught giving a lawyer a discount of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in
    >> assessment on his house, while shafting neighbours with
    >> over-assessments!! Corruption, wouldn't you say?
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Martin Bienwald

Dr.Ernst Zundholtz:

    > However, Lufthansa is being approached by certain people from Canada, to try
    > and con them into flying to Edmonton instead of the thriving metropolis known
    > as CALGARY which has almost triple the air passengers!

Well, the Lufthansa guys usually know how to calculate, and if flying to
Edmonton would mean significantly less passengers they just won't do it.

    > That is why the information is of concern to people in Europe, who may not
    > know about all the crime and dangers involved when visiting Edmonton Canada.

They will have hardly any chance to get in touch with said crime and dangers
if they just catch a connecting flight to Calgary, or whatever else their
final destination in Canada is.

... Martin

Frank F. Matthews

Martin Bienwald wrote:
    > Dr.Ernst Zundholtz:
    >
    >
    >>However, Lufthansa is being approached by certain people from Canada, to try
    >>and con them into flying to Edmonton instead of the thriving metropolis known
    >>as CALGARY which has almost triple the air passengers!
    >


Well, there must be something really wrong with Calgary if they are
afraid that Lufthansa may abandon them. Perhaps the residents of
Calgary know why we should be afraid. They certainly are afraid.

Trauth

Avoid Edmonton at all cost....
They have the worst police force in Canada,,,extremely corrupted...
Also it is the worst travel destination someone could choose.....

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