Any tips on renting apt in Paris?
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:08:00 -0500, "Tom Bellhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>We were in Paris last November. The weather wasn't good, but what the
>hell, it was Paris. Phenomenal city, and the people we met were
>courteous and helpful to obviously American tourists. This was my
>fourth trip to Paris, and I have yet to be treated with hostility or
>discourtesy by anyone, including store keepers and waiters!
Yeah personnally I always help tourists, US or not.
>We rented an apartment that we found on-line, after corresponding
>extensively by email with the owner. It was a pleasant apartment, and
>the owner went well out of her way to make sure our stay was enjoyable
>and comfortable. If you would like a reference, you can reply off-group
>to me.
>As for the suggestion that crime is rampant in Paris, I'd suggest that
>life often gives you exactly what you expect of it. Had we skulked
>about in abject terror of being mugged, I believe we probably would have
>been mugged! Instead, we took the normal precautions against
>pickpockets (common in any large European city nowadays) and had a great
>time.
>Tom
Some place are more insecure than others (some arrondissements are not safe,
especially at night), but they are "far" from the touristic locations.
And yeah the last summer was one of the worst we had for several years. Almost
no sun ... :- /
>We were in Paris last November. The weather wasn't good, but what the
>hell, it was Paris. Phenomenal city, and the people we met were
>courteous and helpful to obviously American tourists. This was my
>fourth trip to Paris, and I have yet to be treated with hostility or
>discourtesy by anyone, including store keepers and waiters!
Yeah personnally I always help tourists, US or not.
>We rented an apartment that we found on-line, after corresponding
>extensively by email with the owner. It was a pleasant apartment, and
>the owner went well out of her way to make sure our stay was enjoyable
>and comfortable. If you would like a reference, you can reply off-group
>to me.
>As for the suggestion that crime is rampant in Paris, I'd suggest that
>life often gives you exactly what you expect of it. Had we skulked
>about in abject terror of being mugged, I believe we probably would have
>been mugged! Instead, we took the normal precautions against
>pickpockets (common in any large European city nowadays) and had a great
>time.
>Tom
Some place are more insecure than others (some arrondissements are not safe,
especially at night), but they are "far" from the touristic locations.
And yeah the last summer was one of the worst we had for several years. Almost
no sun ... :- /
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"John of Aix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Beowulf wrote:
>> I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>> weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>> this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>> as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>> hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>> apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>> need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>> good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>> bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
> For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
> The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
> the evening it often is.
> Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
> and probably arrange it.
Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical than
renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the Ile St.
Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have saved
hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
GG
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> Beowulf wrote:
>> I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>> weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>> this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>> as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>> hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>> apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>> need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>> good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>> bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
> For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
> The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
> the evening it often is.
> Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
> and probably arrange it.
Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical than
renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the Ile St.
Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have saved
hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
GG
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Bernard T. Higonnet wrote:
> Beowulf wrote:
>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4 weeks, in
>>April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do this? I would be
>>too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord, as I only speak some
>>french;
> Such rentals are usually arranged by email with an agency or proprietor.
> There's very little to negotiate and fraud by either party is virtually
> non-existent.
Fraud is rare misunderstanding is not. Read carefully. One thing that
catches americans are sixth floor walk ups. Well beyond average
experience. Also lifts are often much smaller than expected. You have
to send one person up. Then the luggage and then the other person.
>> I know an agency will likely charge a hefty fee, but what other
>>choice do I have?
> Fee is usually paid by apartment owner.
Do you believe in free lunches. A given apartment will be at different
rates at different agencies. I assume to cover different fees.
>>Also, can I count on the apt being relatively quiet (are
>>there french laws on this?)
> On this you should do some checking. You can take a look at
> http://www.paris.fr/FR/Environnement...ruit/carte.ASP
>>or do I need to be careful what area of Paris
>>I rent in (and what would be good areas?)?
> All the apartments aimed at tourists are in such areas, and besides, Paris
> is as safe a major city as any.
>>I just want a clean, safe,
>>quiet studio or preferably 1 bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4
>>weeks of a rental.
> You should have no trouble finding one. Use any search engine.
>>I teach by internet, so I want to avail myself of this great chance to
>>spend a month in Paris while still earning my paycheck back here in the
>>USA
> Just make sure you have a decent connection or proximity to a cyber.café.
> Bernard Higonnet
> Beowulf wrote:
>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4 weeks, in
>>April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do this? I would be
>>too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord, as I only speak some
>>french;
> Such rentals are usually arranged by email with an agency or proprietor.
> There's very little to negotiate and fraud by either party is virtually
> non-existent.
Fraud is rare misunderstanding is not. Read carefully. One thing that
catches americans are sixth floor walk ups. Well beyond average
experience. Also lifts are often much smaller than expected. You have
to send one person up. Then the luggage and then the other person.
>> I know an agency will likely charge a hefty fee, but what other
>>choice do I have?
> Fee is usually paid by apartment owner.
Do you believe in free lunches. A given apartment will be at different
rates at different agencies. I assume to cover different fees.
>>Also, can I count on the apt being relatively quiet (are
>>there french laws on this?)
> On this you should do some checking. You can take a look at
> http://www.paris.fr/FR/Environnement...ruit/carte.ASP
>>or do I need to be careful what area of Paris
>>I rent in (and what would be good areas?)?
> All the apartments aimed at tourists are in such areas, and besides, Paris
> is as safe a major city as any.
>>I just want a clean, safe,
>>quiet studio or preferably 1 bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4
>>weeks of a rental.
> You should have no trouble finding one. Use any search engine.
>>I teach by internet, so I want to avail myself of this great chance to
>>spend a month in Paris while still earning my paycheck back here in the
>>USA
> Just make sure you have a decent connection or proximity to a cyber.café.
> Bernard Higonnet
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GG wrote:
> "John of Aix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Beowulf wrote:
>>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>>>weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>>>this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>>>as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>>>hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>>>apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>>>need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>>>good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>>>bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
>>For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
>>The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
>>the evening it often is.
>>Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
>>and probably arrange it.
>
> Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
> www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical than
> renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the Ile St.
> Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have saved
> hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
you, mainly employment.
>
> GG
>
>
> "John of Aix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Beowulf wrote:
>>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>>>weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>>>this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>>>as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>>>hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>>>apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>>>need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>>>good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>>>bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
>>For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
>>The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
>>the evening it often is.
>>Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
>>and probably arrange it.
>
> Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
> www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical than
> renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the Ile St.
> Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have saved
> hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
you, mainly employment.
>
> GG
>
>
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"Patrick Hernan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> GG wrote:
>> "John of Aix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>Beowulf wrote:
>>>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>>>>weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>>>>this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>>>>as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>>>>hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>>>>apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>>>>need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>>>>good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>>>>bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
>>>For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
>>>The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
>>>the evening it often is.
>>>Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
>>>and probably arrange it.
>> Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
>> www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical
>> than renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the
>> Ile St. Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have
>> saved hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
> I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel at
> the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the landlord.
> They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about you, mainly
> employment.
>> GG
My friends are due back November 16, so can't ask them about their
experience yet; but I do know that they went directly to the apartment upon
arriving in Paris. Also, as to verifying finances and employment etc.,
these friends are retired so have no employment. Since the rental and
deposit are fully prepaid, I don't understand why Lodgis would be interested
in one's finances. I do know that they like their apartment on the Ile St.
Louis.
GG
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> GG wrote:
>> "John of Aix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>Beowulf wrote:
>>>>I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
>>>>weeks, in April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do
>>>>this? I would be too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord,
>>>>as I only speak some french; I know an agency will likely charge a
>>>>hefty fee, but what other choice do I have? Also, can I count on the
>>>>apt being relatively quiet (are there french laws on this?), or do I
>>>>need to be careful what area of Paris I rent in (and what would be
>>>>good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe, quiet studio or preferably 1
>>>>bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for 4 weeks of a rental.
>>>For the noise, yes there are laws both for noise in the day and night.
>>>The former, unless it is very great, is rarely repressed but after 10 in
>>>the evening it often is.
>>>Try contacting the Paris Tourist Board, they should be able to help you
>>>and probably arrange it.
>> Since you want to stay for 4 weeks, you might find something at
>> www.lodgis.com . They have monthly rates that would be more economical
>> than renting by the week. Friends are currently in an apartment on the
>> Ile St. Louis that they rented through Lodgis, and they believe they have
>> saved hundreds of euros by renting with a monthly rate.
> I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel at
> the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the landlord.
> They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about you, mainly
> employment.
>> GG
My friends are due back November 16, so can't ask them about their
experience yet; but I do know that they went directly to the apartment upon
arriving in Paris. Also, as to verifying finances and employment etc.,
these friends are retired so have no employment. Since the rental and
deposit are fully prepaid, I don't understand why Lodgis would be interested
in one's finances. I do know that they like their apartment on the Ile St.
Louis.
GG
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In article <[email protected]>,
Patrick Hernan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
> at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
> landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
> you, mainly employment.
Do they take credit card?
Or only for the deposit?
They charge a fee separately from the rent?
Electricity and phone separate?
Patrick Hernan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
> at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
> landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
> you, mainly employment.
Do they take credit card?
Or only for the deposit?
They charge a fee separately from the rent?
Electricity and phone separate?
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We've stayed at this hotel and would recommend them. They also have a
couple apartments that are for rent.
http://www.hotel-paris-bosquet.com
Beowulf wrote:
> I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
weeks, in
> April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do this? I would
be
> too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord, as I only speak
some
> french; I know an agency will likely charge a hefty fee, but what
other
> choice do I have? Also, can I count on the apt being relatively quiet
(are
> there french laws on this?), or do I need to be careful what area of
Paris
> I rent in (and what would be good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe,
> quiet studio or preferably 1 bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for
4
> weeks of a rental.
> I teach by internet, so I want to avail myself of this great chance
to
> spend a month in Paris while still earning my paycheck back here in
the
> USA, and visit museums, parcs, experience daily Paris life, theatre,
etc.
> I am a 47 year old male college professor. I have been to paris on
> vacation twice in the past 7 years, recently one year ago.
couple apartments that are for rent.
http://www.hotel-paris-bosquet.com
Beowulf wrote:
> I want to rent a vacation apartment rental in Paris, for about 4
weeks, in
> April or September/October. Any tips on how I would do this? I would
be
> too nervous to negotiate directly with a landlord, as I only speak
some
> french; I know an agency will likely charge a hefty fee, but what
other
> choice do I have? Also, can I count on the apt being relatively quiet
(are
> there french laws on this?), or do I need to be careful what area of
Paris
> I rent in (and what would be good areas?)? I just want a clean, safe,
> quiet studio or preferably 1 bedroom. Willing to pay $1000-$3000 for
4
> weeks of a rental.
> I teach by internet, so I want to avail myself of this great chance
to
> spend a month in Paris while still earning my paycheck back here in
the
> USA, and visit museums, parcs, experience daily Paris life, theatre,
etc.
> I am a 47 year old male college professor. I have been to paris on
> vacation twice in the past 7 years, recently one year ago.
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Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
there . Enjoy!
appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
there . Enjoy!
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On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>there . Enjoy!
Or try:
www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>there . Enjoy!
Or try:
www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
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> On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>there . Enjoy!
>
>
> Or try:
>
> www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
voire même :
www.jesuisunconetj@imeça sucursalle de : [email protected]
> On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>there . Enjoy!
>
>
> Or try:
>
> www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
voire même :
www.jesuisunconetj@imeça sucursalle de : [email protected]
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<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>there . Enjoy!
> Or try:
> www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
Curieuse cette obsession qu'ànotre infortuné M@M de se faire baiser àParis
par un gang de banlieu.
Je suis prêt àparier qu'il en a eu l'expérience. Et vous ?
[email protected]...
> On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>there . Enjoy!
> Or try:
> www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
Curieuse cette obsession qu'ànotre infortuné M@M de se faire baiser àParis
par un gang de banlieu.
Je suis prêt àparier qu'il en a eu l'expérience. Et vous ?
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try craigslist ( Paris)
or house swapping (échange de maisons)
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[email protected] om...
> Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
> appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
> "les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
> http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
> there . Enjoy!
>
or house swapping (échange de maisons)
<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected] om...
> Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
> appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
> "les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
> http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
> there . Enjoy!
>
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contantdo a écrit :
> <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>>On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>>there . Enjoy!
>>Or try:
>>www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
>
>
> Curieuse cette obsession qu'ànotre infortuné M@M de se faire baiser àParis
> par un gang de banlieu.
> Je suis prêt àparier qu'il en a eu l'expérience. Et vous ?
>
>
>
Où il aime ça ??
> <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]...
>
>>On 12 Jan 2005 20:12:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Some hotels now provide you with more than a room but rather like small
>>>appartements like the (not too expensive and often well located chain
>>>"les citadines") You can also check the links page on that site:
>>>http:www.yourfriendinfrance.com there are a couple of interesting sites
>>>there . Enjoy!
>>Or try:
>>www.comeandgetrapedbybeurs.com
>
>
> Curieuse cette obsession qu'ànotre infortuné M@M de se faire baiser àParis
> par un gang de banlieu.
> Je suis prêt àparier qu'il en a eu l'expérience. Et vous ?
>
>
>
Où il aime ça ??
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poldy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Patrick Hernan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
>>at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
>>landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
>>you, mainly employment.
>
>
> Do they take credit card?
For their fee, yes, but not for the rent. That was cash.
>
> Or only for the deposit?
No.
>
> They charge a fee separately from the rent?
Yes.
>
> Electricity and phone separate?
I didn't pay that.
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Patrick Hernan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I had a good experience with Lodgis also. Plan on a day or 2 in a hotel
>>at the beginning until you meet with Lodgis staff and possibly the
>>landlord. They want to verify your finances and know a little bit about
>>you, mainly employment.
>
>
> Do they take credit card?
For their fee, yes, but not for the rent. That was cash.
>
> Or only for the deposit?
No.
>
> They charge a fee separately from the rent?
Yes.
>
> Electricity and phone separate?
I didn't pay that.




