Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:

    > *From:* Cathy L <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Mon, 29 May 2006 20:36:32 GMT
    >
    > On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:08:06 +0200, "Simon Laub"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Was in Amsterdam here in May 2006.
    > >Coffeeshops and Window shopping all over.
    > >Made a homepage with some pics for another
    > >purpose - but it might be of some interest to
    > >rec.travel.europe readers as well?
    > >
    > >Amsterdam May 2006 pictures:
    > >http://www.geocities.com/sheepxpower.../amsterdam.htm
    > >
    > >if that doesn't work then try:
    > >file://mineting.125mb.com/Amsterdam/amsterdam.htm
    > >
    > >-Simon
    > >
    > I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in
    > Amsterdam is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than
    > the bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all
    > the bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it
    > would all work out in the end.

That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and abandoned
because so many people took the bikes home permanently!

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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    >> *From:* Cathy L <[email protected]>
    >> *Date:* Mon, 29 May 2006 20:36:32 GMT
    >>
    >> On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:08:06 +0200, "Simon Laub"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > Was in Amsterdam here in May 2006.
    >> >Coffeeshops and Window shopping all over.
    >> >Made a homepage with some pics for another
    >> >purpose - but it might be of some interest to
    >> >rec.travel.europe readers as well?
    >> >
    >> >Amsterdam May 2006 pictures:
    >> >http://www.geocities.com/sheepxpower.../amsterdam.htm
    >> >
    >> >if that doesn't work then try:
    >> >file://mineting.125mb.com/Amsterdam/amsterdam.htm
    >> >
    >> >-Simon
    >> >
    >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in
    >> Amsterdam is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than
    >> the bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all
    >> the bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it
    >> would all work out in the end.
    >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and abandoned
    >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!

Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".
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Martin

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    > >
    > >> *From:* Cathy L <[email protected]>
    > >> *Date:* Mon, 29 May 2006 20:36:32 GMT
    > >>
    > >> On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:08:06 +0200, "Simon Laub"
    > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Was in Amsterdam here in May 2006.
    > >> >Coffeeshops and Window shopping all over.
    > >> >Made a homepage with some pics for another
    > >> >purpose - but it might be of some interest to
    > >> >rec.travel.europe readers as well?
    > >> >
    > >> >Amsterdam May 2006 pictures:
    > >> >http://www.geocities.com/sheepxpower.../amsterdam.htm
    > >> >
    > >> >if that doesn't work then try:
    > >> >file://mineting.125mb.com/Amsterdam/amsterdam.htm
    > >> >
    > >> >-Simon
    > >> >
    > >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in
    > >> Amsterdam is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than
    > >> the bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all
    > >> the bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it
    > >> would all work out in the end.
    > >
    > >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and abandoned
    > >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!
    >
    > Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".

for big dykes?

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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On Tue, 30 May 2006 15:37:32 +0100, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >> >In article <[email protected]>,
    >> >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> *From:* Cathy L <[email protected]>
    >> >> *Date:* Mon, 29 May 2006 20:36:32 GMT
    >> >>
    >> >> On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:08:06 +0200, "Simon Laub"
    >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> > Was in Amsterdam here in May 2006.
    >> >> >Coffeeshops and Window shopping all over.
    >> >> >Made a homepage with some pics for another
    >> >> >purpose - but it might be of some interest to
    >> >> >rec.travel.europe readers as well?
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Amsterdam May 2006 pictures:
    >> >> >http://www.geocities.com/sheepxpower.../amsterdam.htm
    >> >> >
    >> >> >if that doesn't work then try:
    >> >> >file://mineting.125mb.com/Amsterdam/amsterdam.htm
    >> >> >
    >> >> >-Simon
    >> >> >
    >> >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in
    >> >> Amsterdam is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than
    >> >> the bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all
    >> >> the bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it
    >> >> would all work out in the end.
    >> >
    >> >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and abandoned
    >> >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!
    >>
    >> Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".
    >for big dykes?

A nice marketing slogan :-)
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Martin

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Martin) wrote:

    > *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Tue, 30 May 2006 16:28:24 +0200
    >
    > On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    > >
    > >> *From:* Cathy L <[email protected]>
    > >> *Date:* Mon, 29 May 2006 20:36:32 GMT
    > >>
    > >> On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:08:06 +0200, "Simon Laub"
    > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Was in Amsterdam here in May 2006.
    > >> >Coffeeshops and Window shopping all over.
    > >> >Made a homepage with some pics for another
    > >> >purpose - but it might be of some interest to
    > >> >rec.travel.europe readers as well?
    > >> >
    > >> >Amsterdam May 2006 pictures:
    > >> >http://www.geocities.com/sheepxpower.../amsterdam.htm
    > >> >
    > >> >if that doesn't work then try:
    > >> >file://mineting.125mb.com/Amsterdam/amsterdam.htm
    > >> >
    > >> >-Simon
    > >> >
    > >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in
    > >> Amsterdam is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock
    > > than
    > >> the bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all
    > >> the bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it
    > >> would all work out in the end.
    > >
    > >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and
    > abandoned >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!
    >
    > Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".

But also somewhere much more recently, ISTR.


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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

[email protected] writes:

    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > (Martin) wrote:
    >
    > > *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
    > > *Date:* Tue, 30 May 2006 16:28:24 +0200
    > >
    > > On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > > >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in Amsterdam
    > > >> is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than the
    > > >> bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all the
    > > >> bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it would all
    > > >> work out in the end.
    > > >
    > > >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and
    > > abandoned >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!
    > >
    > > Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".
    >
    > But also somewhere much more recently, ISTR.

Copenhagen has municipal bikes. I didn't get to use one, but they are said to
be uncovetably ugly, heavy and unwieldy to discourage theft.

Des

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> writes:

    > On 30 May 2006 16:13:40 +0100, des small <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Copenhagen has municipal bikes. I didn't get to use one, but they
    > >are said to be uncovetably ugly, heavy and unwieldy to discourage
    > >theft.
    >
    > On flat ground it doesn't really matter how good the bike is. They
    > help you get around!

As an imminent immigrant to the flattest land of all I certainly
concur. However, we neglected to borrow the Copenhagen bikes because
the Carlsberg brewery has insolently hidden itself up a hill. Then we
didn't go to the brewery anyway, but there you go.

I have since recalled that Berlin (which is pretty flat too) also
operates a bike scheme, which is tied to your mobile phone in ways I
didn't have occasion to figure out.

Des

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On 30 May 2006 16:13:40 +0100, des small <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >[email protected] writes:
    >> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    >> (Martin) wrote:
    >>
    >> > *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
    >> > *Date:* Tue, 30 May 2006 16:28:24 +0200
    >> >
    >> > On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:36:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    >> >
    >> > >In article <[email protected]>,
    >> > >[email protected] (Cathy L) wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > >> I was thinking about something. They say the largest crime in Amsterdam
    >> > >> is bicycle theft. People say they pay more for the lock than the
    >> > >> bicycle. Wouldn't it be better if everyone took the locks off all the
    >> > >> bicycles and when you needed a ride just take one. I'd bet it would all
    >> > >> work out in the end.
    >> > >
    >> > >That was tried somewhere - Cambridge (England), I think - and
    >> > abandoned >because so many people took the bikes home permanently!
    >> >
    >> > Amsterdam in the sixties "white bikes".
    >>
    >> But also somewhere much more recently, ISTR.
    >Copenhagen has municipal bikes. I didn't get to use one, but they are said to
    >be uncovetably ugly, heavy and unwieldy to discourage theft.

On flat ground it doesn't really matter how good the bike is. They
help you get around!
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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On 30 May 2006 16:13:40 +0100, des small <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Copenhagen has municipal bikes. I didn't get to use one, but they are said to
    >be uncovetably ugly, heavy and unwieldy to discourage theft.

But for practical purposes impossible to get one. And if you see one it is
there as it has been damaged. Never did I see a usable one available.

Aarhus started them in May 2005. So when I was there in June of 2005 I had
no problem finding one in working order.

Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/#travel> (e-mail link at page bottoms).

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

"des small" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> writes:
    >> On 30 May 2006 16:13:40 +0100, des small <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >> >Copenhagen has municipal bikes. I didn't get to use one, but they
    >> >are said to be uncovetably ugly, heavy and unwieldy to discourage
    >> >theft.
    >> On flat ground it doesn't really matter how good the bike is. They
    >> help you get around!
    > As an imminent immigrant to the flattest land of all I certainly
    > concur. However, we neglected to borrow the Copenhagen bikes because
    > the Carlsberg brewery has insolently hidden itself up a hill. Then we
    > didn't go to the brewery anyway, but there you go.
    > I have since recalled that Berlin (which is pretty flat too) also
    > operates a bike scheme, which is tied to your mobile phone in ways I
    > didn't have occasion to figure out.
    > Des

In a city, there is a great advantage to those big bulky bikes. I rented one
for the week in Berlin. At first I was disappointed, after my nice bike at
home, but those big old bikes can really take curbs. You can't hurt them. If
you're going to commute in the city, that's probably what you really need.
Otherwise you'll be changing tires regularly.

I didn't use the Berlin DB bikes, but saw plenty of them around the city.
Evidently you call in and get a code to unlock it, and leave it wherever you
are when done. You're billed by how long you have it.

Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:15:31 +0100, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:34:50 -0400, "Sarah Banick"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>In a city, there is a great advantage to those big bulky bikes. I rented one
    >>for the week in Berlin. At first I was disappointed, after my nice bike at
    >>home, but those big old bikes can really take curbs. You can't hurt them. If
    >>you're going to commute in the city, that's probably what you really need.
    >>Otherwise you'll be changing tires regularly.
    >There's always something nice about having a crappy, but simple and
    >mechanically sound bike locked up on the street. You can be sure it
    >will be last one to be stolen, and the first one to get you home
    >safely!

It seems to be more common to steal somebody else's in NL.
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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:34:50 -0400, "Sarah Banick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >In a city, there is a great advantage to those big bulky bikes. I rented one
    >for the week in Berlin. At first I was disappointed, after my nice bike at
    >home, but those big old bikes can really take curbs. You can't hurt them. If
    >you're going to commute in the city, that's probably what you really need.
    >Otherwise you'll be changing tires regularly.

There's always something nice about having a crappy, but simple and
mechanically sound bike locked up on the street. You can be sure it
will be last one to be stolen, and the first one to get you home
safely!
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Re: Amsterdam May 2006
 

On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:07:25 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:15:31 +0100, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:34:50 -0400, "Sarah Banick"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>In a city, there is a great advantage to those big bulky bikes. I rented one
    >>>for the week in Berlin. At first I was disappointed, after my nice bike at
    >>>home, but those big old bikes can really take curbs. You can't hurt them. If
    >>>you're going to commute in the city, that's probably what you really need.
    >>>Otherwise you'll be changing tires regularly.
    >>There's always something nice about having a crappy, but simple and
    >>mechanically sound bike locked up on the street. You can be sure it
    >>will be last one to be stolen, and the first one to get you home
    >>safely!
    >It seems to be more common to steal somebody else's in NL.

If you gotta get home, you gotta get home!
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