American license plates
Aug 8th 2005, 8:48 pm
#91
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:54:10 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>J* writes:
>> This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
>> be driven but by an American citizen.
>Vandals and other bad guys wouldn't know that, although they might
>recognize the plates as American. That doesn't necessarily make the
>car more of a target. American plates in France are likely to be
>residents, not tourists, and as such they wouldn't necessarily have
>anything of great value in the car.
and not US military staff on holiday?
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Martin
wrote:
>J* writes:
>> This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
>> be driven but by an American citizen.
>Vandals and other bad guys wouldn't know that, although they might
>recognize the plates as American. That doesn't necessarily make the
>car more of a target. American plates in France are likely to be
>residents, not tourists, and as such they wouldn't necessarily have
>anything of great value in the car.
and not US military staff on holiday?
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 8:49 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:55:04 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> The car could belong to the US govt.
>Then it would generally have diplomatic plates, orange on green in
>France.
Not if it belongs to the US army.
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Martin
wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> The car could belong to the US govt.
>Then it would generally have diplomatic plates, orange on green in
>France.
Not if it belongs to the US army.
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Aug 8th 2005, 9:01 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:34:09 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:55:04 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Martin writes:
>>
>>> The car could belong to the US govt.
>>
>> Then it would generally have diplomatic plates, orange on green in
>> France.
>Only if it belonged to the diplomatic corps.
Signs of the over flogged dead horse starting to decompose.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:55:04 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Martin writes:
>>
>>> The car could belong to the US govt.
>>
>> Then it would generally have diplomatic plates, orange on green in
>> France.
>Only if it belonged to the diplomatic corps.
Signs of the over flogged dead horse starting to decompose.
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Aug 8th 2005, 9:01 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:40:07 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:47:40 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
>> writes:
>>
>>> Certainly, if you've got vandals in the area intent on damaging
>>> something, anything that catches their attention could be trouble. We
>>> gave up replacing our front door bell- it's been removed twice. Either
>>> we get one that is almost impossible to remove or one that blends
>>> perfectly with the colour of the wood on the door.
>>
>> The bell is on the outside? Why?
>Because that's what Brits call a "bell-push" ? Duh!
You rang?
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:47:40 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
>> writes:
>>
>>> Certainly, if you've got vandals in the area intent on damaging
>>> something, anything that catches their attention could be trouble. We
>>> gave up replacing our front door bell- it's been removed twice. Either
>>> we get one that is almost impossible to remove or one that blends
>>> perfectly with the colour of the wood on the door.
>>
>> The bell is on the outside? Why?
>Because that's what Brits call a "bell-push" ? Duh!
You rang?
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Aug 8th 2005, 9:02 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:46:38 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>special agreement with the USA?
From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
locals look after changing the plates.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>special agreement with the USA?
From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
locals look after changing the plates.
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 9:24 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:40:25 +0200, Andreas H. Zappel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
>>>>>>be driven but by an American citizen. Considering the general situation of
>>>>>But this is a problem of the customs.
>>>>The car could belong to the US govt.
>>>Than it isn't only a custom problem.
>>Where did OP mention customs?
>The OP wrote: "...It is not allowed to be driven but by an American
>citizen..." and this is because of customs.
that was added by the next poster.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
>>>>>>be driven but by an American citizen. Considering the general situation of
>>>>>But this is a problem of the customs.
>>>>The car could belong to the US govt.
>>>Than it isn't only a custom problem.
>>Where did OP mention customs?
>The OP wrote: "...It is not allowed to be driven but by an American
>citizen..." and this is because of customs.
that was added by the next poster.
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 9:26 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:22:13 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Certainly, if you've got vandals in the area intent on damaging
>>>something, anything that catches their attention could be trouble. We
>>>gave up replacing our front door bell- it's been removed twice. Either
>>>we get one that is almost impossible to remove or one that blends
>>>perfectly with the colour of the wood on the door.
>>
>>
>> The bell is on the outside? Why?
>It would rather defeat its purpose if the bell-push were on
>the inside, wouldn't it?
Not if you live in a cell :-)
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Certainly, if you've got vandals in the area intent on damaging
>>>something, anything that catches their attention could be trouble. We
>>>gave up replacing our front door bell- it's been removed twice. Either
>>>we get one that is almost impossible to remove or one that blends
>>>perfectly with the colour of the wood on the door.
>>
>>
>> The bell is on the outside? Why?
>It would rather defeat its purpose if the bell-push were on
>the inside, wouldn't it?
Not if you live in a cell :-)
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 9:33 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:43:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>
>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>> the vehicle.
>>
>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>
>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
car parks?
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>
>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>> the vehicle.
>>
>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>
>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
car parks?
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 9:34 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:02:32 +0200, Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:46:38 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>>special agreement with the USA?
>
> From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
> locals look after changing the plates.
It's like the German joke:
Take your holidays in Poland this year. Your car's already there.
or
Why do Russian car thieves always steal cars in Germany two at a time?
Because they have to go through Poland to get home.
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Tim C.
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:46:38 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>>special agreement with the USA?
>
> From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
> locals look after changing the plates.
It's like the German joke:
Take your holidays in Poland this year. Your car's already there.
or
Why do Russian car thieves always steal cars in Germany two at a time?
Because they have to go through Poland to get home.
--
Tim C.
Aug 8th 2005, 9:38 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:34:32 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:02:32 +0200, Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:46:38 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>>>special agreement with the USA?
>>
>> From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
>> locals look after changing the plates.
>It's like the German joke:
>Take your holidays in Poland this year. Your car's already there.
> or
>Why do Russian car thieves always steal cars in Germany two at a time?
>Because they have to go through Poland to get home.
LOL not heard either before.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:02:32 +0200, Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:46:38 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:10:42 GMT, No Spam wrote:
>>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>>Unless you travel to another country? Perhaps Canada and Mexico have a
>>>special agreement with the USA?
>>
>> From what I saw on US TV thieves steal them in California and Mexican
>> locals look after changing the plates.
>It's like the German joke:
>Take your holidays in Poland this year. Your car's already there.
> or
>Why do Russian car thieves always steal cars in Germany two at a time?
>Because they have to go through Poland to get home.
LOL not heard either before.
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 9:38 pm
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Re: American license plates
"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected] k.net:
> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must
>> display on their vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so
>> the local authorites can trace the vehicle.
>
> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
It does, except American cars are less likely to go abroad, so people
may be less familiar with the phenomenon.
> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
Same here. The oval national sign is only required when going abroad.
> Is
> there a European standard "code" for every country in
> the world?
No. There is only one kind of national identification, and it's the
same worldwide: The oval badges. It's not a European thing. You may
think it's European because you first encountered the phenomenon when
you went to Europe.
> Unless the
> codes are specified, how would you know which code to
> use?
They are specified of course, but they're not ISO. The international
car signs are older than ISO, they user their own logic.
> When I drove a car with Massachusetts license plates
> in Turin, we used a "USA" oval, and we experienced no
> problems (except that the car was nearly as wide as
> the streets). But this was for a special business
> purpose, and the corporate legal department had done
> extensive preparation to make sure all was legal.
There's nothing special about the oval badges. You buy them in petrol
stations and stick them on.
Regards
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news:[email protected] k.net:
> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must
>> display on their vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so
>> the local authorites can trace the vehicle.
>
> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
It does, except American cars are less likely to go abroad, so people
may be less familiar with the phenomenon.
> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
Same here. The oval national sign is only required when going abroad.
> Is
> there a European standard "code" for every country in
> the world?
No. There is only one kind of national identification, and it's the
same worldwide: The oval badges. It's not a European thing. You may
think it's European because you first encountered the phenomenon when
you went to Europe.
> Unless the
> codes are specified, how would you know which code to
> use?
They are specified of course, but they're not ISO. The international
car signs are older than ISO, they user their own logic.
> When I drove a car with Massachusetts license plates
> in Turin, we used a "USA" oval, and we experienced no
> problems (except that the car was nearly as wide as
> the streets). But this was for a special business
> purpose, and the corporate legal department had done
> extensive preparation to make sure all was legal.
There's nothing special about the oval badges. You buy them in petrol
stations and stick them on.
Regards
--
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Aug 8th 2005, 9:42 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:33:08 +0200, Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:43:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>>
>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>>> the vehicle.
>>>
>>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>>
>>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
>
> and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
> car parks?
<snigger>
--
Tim C.
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:43:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>>
>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>>> the vehicle.
>>>
>>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>>
>>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
>
> and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
> car parks?
<snigger>
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Tim C.
Aug 8th 2005, 9:53 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:42:57 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:33:08 +0200, Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:43:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>>>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>>>
>>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>>>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>>>> the vehicle.
>>>>
>>>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>>>
>>>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>>>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>>>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>>>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
>>
>> and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
>> car parks?
><snigger>
Substitute "ringing" for "with".
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:33:08 +0200, Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:43:58 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 01:28:35 +0100, Andy Pandy wrote:
>>>> "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
>>>>>>> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
>>>>>>> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
>>>>>>> So it might not even be recognised.
>>>>>> But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>>>> Does such a thing exit.?
>>>>
>>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on their
>>>> vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can trace
>>>> the vehicle.
>>>>
>>>>> I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters
>>>>
>>>> Not many other nationalities will take their cars to Europe!
>>>I've seen enough USA and Canadian ones - although not so recently.
>>>I used to see quite a few in Germany before the iron curtain was drawn.
>>>Nowadays, I mostly notice motorbikes.
>>
>> and US expatriates with 6'4" Dutch birds on the bonnets of Clios in
>> car parks?
><snigger>
Substitute "ringing" for "with".
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 10:33 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:46:00 +0200, Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:47:01 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>J* writes:
>>> I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
>>> her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate on
>>> it?
>>No. American plates do not make a car any more of a target than any
>>other foreign plate. They do imply that the owner is a long-term
>>resident
>
> How does a US plate imply residency? Do GB and NL etc. plates in
> France imply the same?
Because few USAsians are likely to ship their car over for a short holiday?
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Tim C.
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:47:01 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>J* writes:
>>> I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
>>> her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate on
>>> it?
>>No. American plates do not make a car any more of a target than any
>>other foreign plate. They do imply that the owner is a long-term
>>resident
>
> How does a US plate imply residency? Do GB and NL etc. plates in
> France imply the same?
Because few USAsians are likely to ship their car over for a short holiday?
--
Tim C.
Aug 8th 2005, 10:45 pm
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Re: American license plates
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > It may seem like a stupid question to you, but for many people not very
widely
> > travelled there is fear of xenophobia. An Asian man I used to work with was
on
> > the verge of cancelling his trip to Florida after 9/11, not because he was
> > worried about flying but because he was worried about exactly what the OP
here
> > is worried about. I (and others) told him not to be so stupid and go - he
did
> > and had a great time!
> Was he planning to ship his car with him, too, instead of
> renting one at his desitnation?
No, he wasn't taking a car - what I meant was that he was worried about bigotry
from Americans due to 9/11, just like some Americans are worried about bigotry
due to Iraq etc.
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> > It may seem like a stupid question to you, but for many people not very
widely
> > travelled there is fear of xenophobia. An Asian man I used to work with was
on
> > the verge of cancelling his trip to Florida after 9/11, not because he was
> > worried about flying but because he was worried about exactly what the OP
here
> > is worried about. I (and others) told him not to be so stupid and go - he
did
> > and had a great time!
> Was he planning to ship his car with him, too, instead of
> renting one at his desitnation?
No, he wasn't taking a car - what I meant was that he was worried about bigotry
from Americans due to 9/11, just like some Americans are worried about bigotry
due to Iraq etc.
--
Andy
