American license plates
Aug 9th 2005, 6:28 pm
#151
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Re: American license plates
Thank you Sam,
amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
and arrogant tone of their comments, always ready to put somebody down. a
simple request for an opinion received this litany of errors, semi-truths,
wow. Enfin, c'est la vie.
My car has Minnesota license plates, I might stick a canadian sticker
somewhere in the back...
"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Just stick a couple of Canadian bumper stickers and you should be fine.
> In my experience, the only provinces and states that are known in
> Europe are California, New York and Florida (the French know about
> Quebec). Heck, Europeans are so ignorant (see replies above ) you could
> pretend your car was licensed in Mexico.
> Sam
>
amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
and arrogant tone of their comments, always ready to put somebody down. a
simple request for an opinion received this litany of errors, semi-truths,
wow. Enfin, c'est la vie.
My car has Minnesota license plates, I might stick a canadian sticker
somewhere in the back...
"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Just stick a couple of Canadian bumper stickers and you should be fine.
> In my experience, the only provinces and states that are known in
> Europe are California, New York and Florida (the French know about
> Quebec). Heck, Europeans are so ignorant (see replies above ) you could
> pretend your car was licensed in Mexico.
> Sam
>
Aug 9th 2005, 6:30 pm
#152
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Re: American license plates
Thank you Sam,
amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
and arrogant tone of their comments, always ready to put somebody down. a
simple request for an opinion received this litany of errors, semi-truths,
wow. Enfin, c'est la vie.
My car has Minnesota license plates, I might stick a canadian sticker
somewhere in the back...
amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
and arrogant tone of their comments, always ready to put somebody down. a
simple request for an opinion received this litany of errors, semi-truths,
wow. Enfin, c'est la vie.
My car has Minnesota license plates, I might stick a canadian sticker
somewhere in the back...
Aug 9th 2005, 7:34 pm
#153
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:52:42 +0200, [email protected]
(Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:
>Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Rather less chance than a car with a French licence plate being
>> > vandalised in the US. The French government disagreed with the US
>> > government about Iraq; the US government, abetted by the US media,
>> > demonised France; the French government did not demonise the US.
>>
>> How do you expect American vandals to be able to determine that the car's
>> licence plate is French?
>I guess most vandals in America would be puzzled by a Peugeot 206, a
>Renault Twingo or other "exotic" French cars... :-)
... and especially the Megan with the ugly arse. How much extra has it
cost Renault to market such an ugly car?
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Martin
(Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:
>Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Rather less chance than a car with a French licence plate being
>> > vandalised in the US. The French government disagreed with the US
>> > government about Iraq; the US government, abetted by the US media,
>> > demonised France; the French government did not demonise the US.
>>
>> How do you expect American vandals to be able to determine that the car's
>> licence plate is French?
>I guess most vandals in America would be puzzled by a Peugeot 206, a
>Renault Twingo or other "exotic" French cars... :-)
... and especially the Megan with the ugly arse. How much extra has it
cost Renault to market such an ugly car?
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Martin
Aug 9th 2005, 7:35 pm
#154
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 23:37:23 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> Maybe the rule isn't observered very tightly in North America (it isn't
>> in Europe either), or maybe the three countries have some mutual
>> agreement to not enforce it.
>Can you cite the "rule" then?
I thought Mixi had posted that. Be very careful!
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Martin
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> Maybe the rule isn't observered very tightly in North America (it isn't
>> in Europe either), or maybe the three countries have some mutual
>> agreement to not enforce it.
>Can you cite the "rule" then?
I thought Mixi had posted that. Be very careful!
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Martin
Aug 9th 2005, 7:38 pm
#155
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:48:00 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:55:36 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>How do you expect American vandals to be able to determine that the car's
>> >>>licence plate is French?
>> >>>
>> >>The representation of the European flag and the letters "FR".
>> >
>> >Just "F" http://www.olavsplates.com/france.html
>> >
>> You're right. My excuse for getting it wrong is
>...you've been on too many Ryanair flights? :)
>(airline code is FR)
Anorak website of the year or what?
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(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:55:36 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>How do you expect American vandals to be able to determine that the car's
>> >>>licence plate is French?
>> >>>
>> >>The representation of the European flag and the letters "FR".
>> >
>> >Just "F" http://www.olavsplates.com/france.html
>> >
>> You're right. My excuse for getting it wrong is
>...you've been on too many Ryanair flights? :)
>(airline code is FR)
Anorak website of the year or what?
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Aug 9th 2005, 7:40 pm
#156
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:01:50 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> There are thousands of US govt. owned cars in Europe.
>The US government uses special plates.
and?
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Martin
wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> There are thousands of US govt. owned cars in Europe.
>The US government uses special plates.
and?
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Aug 9th 2005, 7:40 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:02:19 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> So can an American stationed in Germany.
>An American stationed in Germany is a resident.
Not of France. Stop snipping context.
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wrote:
>Martin writes:
>> So can an American stationed in Germany.
>An American stationed in Germany is a resident.
Not of France. Stop snipping context.
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Aug 9th 2005, 7:41 pm
#158
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:28:59 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:38:53 +0200, Wolfgang Schwanke
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected] ink.net:
>>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must
>>>> display on their vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so
>>>> the local authorites can trace the vehicle.
>>>
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>It does, except American cars are less likely to go abroad, so people
>>may be less familiar with the phenomenon.
>
> Nonsense. I've driven into and out of both Canada and Mexico many
> times and never had a "country code" on my car.
There are various local applications of this convention. Some countries
don't require the white oval sticker, others do. For example, it's no
longer required within the EU for vehicles with the new EU plates.
Most places didn't bother before of course, although I have been stopped
and fined for not having one once.
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Tim C.
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:38:53 +0200, Wolfgang Schwanke
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected] ink.net:
>>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must
>>>> display on their vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so
>>>> the local authorites can trace the vehicle.
>>>
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>It does, except American cars are less likely to go abroad, so people
>>may be less familiar with the phenomenon.
>
> Nonsense. I've driven into and out of both Canada and Mexico many
> times and never had a "country code" on my car.
There are various local applications of this convention. Some countries
don't require the white oval sticker, others do. For example, it's no
longer required within the EU for vehicles with the new EU plates.
Most places didn't bother before of course, although I have been stopped
and fined for not having one once.
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Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 7:45 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:55:17 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Don't bet on it! I don't think they teach geography in our
> schools anymore.
A Spanish (nationality) teacher I spoke to recently told me of the time he
was on an exchange in Florida, and after the lesson's introductions and
explanations of where he comes from and what Spain is like, he opened the
floor to questions. "How long did it take you to drive from Spain to
Florida?" came the question.
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> Don't bet on it! I don't think they teach geography in our
> schools anymore.
A Spanish (nationality) teacher I spoke to recently told me of the time he
was on an exchange in Florida, and after the lesson's introductions and
explanations of where he comes from and what Spain is like, he opened the
floor to questions. "How long did it take you to drive from Spain to
Florida?" came the question.
--
Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 7:54 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:30:58 GMT, "J*" <J*@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>Thank you Sam,
>amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
>and arrogant tone of their comments,
We are superior. Why can't you accept that? Arrogant, moi? :-)
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Martin
>Thank you Sam,
>amazing how they are ignorant as you said. and also , notice the superior
>and arrogant tone of their comments,
We are superior. Why can't you accept that? Arrogant, moi? :-)
--
Martin
Aug 9th 2005, 8:00 pm
#161
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 23:37:23 +0100, [email protected]
wrote:
> Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
>> Maybe the rule isn't observered very tightly in North America (it isn't
>> in Europe either), or maybe the three countries have some mutual
>> agreement to not enforce it.
>
> Can you cite the "rule" then?
Look up the UN's 1949 and 1968 Conventions on Road Traffic.
http://www.unece.org/trans/conventn/crt1968e.pdf Annex 3 (~page 46)
defines what they should look like. Yo uhave to pay to get the list of
contracting parties so I didn't bother.
I found somewhere else (unofficially) that the USA didn't join up.
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Tim C.
wrote:
> Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
>> Maybe the rule isn't observered very tightly in North America (it isn't
>> in Europe either), or maybe the three countries have some mutual
>> agreement to not enforce it.
>
> Can you cite the "rule" then?
Look up the UN's 1949 and 1968 Conventions on Road Traffic.
http://www.unece.org/trans/conventn/crt1968e.pdf Annex 3 (~page 46)
defines what they should look like. Yo uhave to pay to get the list of
contracting parties so I didn't bother.
I found somewhere else (unofficially) that the USA didn't join up.
--
Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 8:02 pm
#162
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:38:01 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
> On 9 Aug 2005 08:48:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>No Spam a écrit :
>>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> >
>>> > "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> > news:[email protected]...
>>> >> >> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I
>>> >> >> recall
>>> >> >> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do
>>> >> >> they?
>>> >> >> So it might not even be recognised.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>> >>
>>> >> Does such a thing exit.?
>>> >
>>> > AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on
>>> > their
>>> > vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can
>>> > trace
>>> > the vehicle.
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>Yes, no national emblem used, but dont licence plates
>>in the USA and Canada have a state/territory identification ?
>
> And in Mexico, where the plates also have the state named on the
> license plate. I will saay North American license plates are
> prettier than European plates. See
> http://www.pl8s.com/ps-photos/DSC00256.jpg for a picture of an
> Arizona plate.
They're not supposed to be pretty, they're there to be easily legible in.
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Tim C.
> On 9 Aug 2005 08:48:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>No Spam a écrit :
>>> "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> >
>>> > "tim (moved to sweden)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> > news:[email protected]...
>>> >> >> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I
>>> >> >> recall
>>> >> >> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do
>>> >> >> they?
>>> >> >> So it might not even be recognised.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?
>>> >>
>>> >> Does such a thing exit.?
>>> >
>>> > AIUI every country in the world has a country "code" they must display on
>>> > their
>>> > vehicle if they drive it in a foreign country, so the local authorites can
>>> > trace
>>> > the vehicle.
>>> In North America, it typically does not work that way.
>>> The plate is usually issued by the state or province or
>>> territory, and a national emblem is not required.
>>Yes, no national emblem used, but dont licence plates
>>in the USA and Canada have a state/territory identification ?
>
> And in Mexico, where the plates also have the state named on the
> license plate. I will saay North American license plates are
> prettier than European plates. See
> http://www.pl8s.com/ps-photos/DSC00256.jpg for a picture of an
> Arizona plate.
They're not supposed to be pretty, they're there to be easily legible in.
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Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 8:12 pm
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:09:56 +0200, Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:00:52 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Martin writes:
>>> How does a US plate imply residency?
>>By indicating that the car was imported from the US, which is rare for
>>Americans who are only temporary tourists. It's very awkward and
>>expensive to ship a car from the US to Europe.
>>> Do GB and NL etc. plates in France imply the same?
>>No. They can just drive into the contry on a day trip.
>
> So can an American stationed in Germany.
An American soldier or family members stationed in Germany would most
likely (unless it's changed since I was there) have US military personnel
plates - you know the little ones with the letters "USA" written
(vertically?) in the middle. Whether or not the car was imported from the
USA or bought in Europe.
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Tim C.
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:00:52 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Martin writes:
>>> How does a US plate imply residency?
>>By indicating that the car was imported from the US, which is rare for
>>Americans who are only temporary tourists. It's very awkward and
>>expensive to ship a car from the US to Europe.
>>> Do GB and NL etc. plates in France imply the same?
>>No. They can just drive into the contry on a day trip.
>
> So can an American stationed in Germany.
An American soldier or family members stationed in Germany would most
likely (unless it's changed since I was there) have US military personnel
plates - you know the little ones with the letters "USA" written
(vertically?) in the middle. Whether or not the car was imported from the
USA or bought in Europe.
--
Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 8:14 pm
#164
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Re: American license plates
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:02:19 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Martin writes:
>
>> So can an American stationed in Germany.
>
> An American stationed in Germany is a resident.
Not normally. They more or less live in homes provided by the US military
and are not required to register with the local authorities.
Unless you mean "stationed" to be more than what I understand it to mean:
applying only to the military and staff.
--
Tim C.
> Martin writes:
>
>> So can an American stationed in Germany.
>
> An American stationed in Germany is a resident.
Not normally. They more or less live in homes provided by the US military
and are not required to register with the local authorities.
Unless you mean "stationed" to be more than what I understand it to mean:
applying only to the military and staff.
--
Tim C.
Aug 9th 2005, 8:19 pm
#165
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Re: American license plates
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:02:31 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
>
>> The word "insurance" comes to mind...
>
> You don't receive any insurance reimbursement if you torch someone
> else's car.
No but if someone else torches yours you might. Depending on the insurance.
It's common in Germany to have only 3rd party, while in the UK, "3rd party,
fire and theft" is the normal minimum. And if you have fully comprehensive
you're (almost) laughing.
--
Tim C.
> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
>
>> The word "insurance" comes to mind...
>
> You don't receive any insurance reimbursement if you torch someone
> else's car.
No but if someone else torches yours you might. Depending on the insurance.
It's common in Germany to have only 3rd party, while in the UK, "3rd party,
fire and theft" is the normal minimum. And if you have fully comprehensive
you're (almost) laughing.
--
Tim C.
