Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
May 21st 2005, 9:44 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On Sun, 22 May 2005 11:22:32 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 21/05/05 22:40, in article [email protected],
>"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>You survived, PanAm did not!
:-)
I'm not surprised. I avoided flying with them after that and I suspect
neither did any of the other passengers. It was the worst flight I
ever had in 40 years of flying.
Incredibly rude stewardesses, no beer on the flight, and absolutely
disgusting food. The food was probably prepared in Heathrow.
wrote:
>On 21/05/05 22:40, in article [email protected],
>"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>You survived, PanAm did not!
:-)
I'm not surprised. I avoided flying with them after that and I suspect
neither did any of the other passengers. It was the worst flight I
ever had in 40 years of flying.
Incredibly rude stewardesses, no beer on the flight, and absolutely
disgusting food. The food was probably prepared in Heathrow.
May 21st 2005, 10:51 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On 22/05/05 11:44, in article [email protected],
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2005 11:22:32 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/05/05 22:40, in article [email protected],
>> "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>>
>>
>> You survived, PanAm did not!
>
> :-)
>
> I'm not surprised. I avoided flying with them after that and I suspect
> neither did any of the other passengers. It was the worst flight I
> ever had in 40 years of flying.
> Incredibly rude stewardesses, no beer on the flight, and absolutely
> disgusting food. The food was probably prepared in Heathrow.
A flight from hell. I did get the feeling years ago that PanAm had
degenerated into an airline which mainly served the interests
of their employees. I had a friend who use to always fly PanAm,
swore by it.
We only took it once, on a short flight, in first class. We had our
small dachs with us, who normally flew in his own carrier with us
in the cabin. The PanAm checkin staff insisted that he was too large
and had to fly in their box, in any case. So we showed them he would
fit in "their box" and they let us take the flight.
To contrast to that behavior, we once took Air France first class from
NY to Paris. Same dog but in our carrier. Shortly after takeoff
a flight attendant (French) said that we "certainly weren't going to
keep" our little toutou stay closed up in the horrible box for the flight.
So we let him out. Later on, after dinner, the same person came
up and said that unfortunately they were out of lamb but would our
dog like some sliced duck?
Certainly!
This, of course, occurs at three star restaurants in France, our
dogs have been served with food on silver plates at times.
Years ago we bought a book VIP Chiens, which listed all the places
in France which accept dogs.
Earl
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2005 11:22:32 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/05/05 22:40, in article [email protected],
>> "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>>
>>
>> You survived, PanAm did not!
>
> :-)
>
> I'm not surprised. I avoided flying with them after that and I suspect
> neither did any of the other passengers. It was the worst flight I
> ever had in 40 years of flying.
> Incredibly rude stewardesses, no beer on the flight, and absolutely
> disgusting food. The food was probably prepared in Heathrow.
A flight from hell. I did get the feeling years ago that PanAm had
degenerated into an airline which mainly served the interests
of their employees. I had a friend who use to always fly PanAm,
swore by it.
We only took it once, on a short flight, in first class. We had our
small dachs with us, who normally flew in his own carrier with us
in the cabin. The PanAm checkin staff insisted that he was too large
and had to fly in their box, in any case. So we showed them he would
fit in "their box" and they let us take the flight.
To contrast to that behavior, we once took Air France first class from
NY to Paris. Same dog but in our carrier. Shortly after takeoff
a flight attendant (French) said that we "certainly weren't going to
keep" our little toutou stay closed up in the horrible box for the flight.
So we let him out. Later on, after dinner, the same person came
up and said that unfortunately they were out of lamb but would our
dog like some sliced duck?
Certainly!
This, of course, occurs at three star restaurants in France, our
dogs have been served with food on silver plates at times.
Years ago we bought a book VIP Chiens, which listed all the places
in France which accept dogs.
Earl
May 22nd 2005, 1:26 am
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:36:32 -0400, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:38:07 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >This is the first case of airplane food poisoning
> >> >I have come across.
> >> >
> >> >Anybody have any experiences anywhere?
> >>
> >> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
> >
> >I had food poisoning from a 'restaurant' at ORD.
> >(which isn't in Europe)
> >
> >I also had an upset stomach whilst on a flight from Peru to Amsterdam.
> >(which is Europe)
> We often had an upset stomach after travelling with KLM from Adam to
> Milan. By a process of elimination we worked out that it was caused by
> the orange juice.
Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing and
survive until getting home. The latter worked.
> PanAm was a different story, I was so ill I wanted to die.
Hopefully my Virgin flight later today will be upset stomach free.
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:36:32 -0400, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:38:07 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >This is the first case of airplane food poisoning
> >> >I have come across.
> >> >
> >> >Anybody have any experiences anywhere?
> >>
> >> I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
> >
> >I had food poisoning from a 'restaurant' at ORD.
> >(which isn't in Europe)
> >
> >I also had an upset stomach whilst on a flight from Peru to Amsterdam.
> >(which is Europe)
> We often had an upset stomach after travelling with KLM from Adam to
> Milan. By a process of elimination we worked out that it was caused by
> the orange juice.
Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing and
survive until getting home. The latter worked.
> PanAm was a different story, I was so ill I wanted to die.
Hopefully my Virgin flight later today will be upset stomach free.
May 22nd 2005, 5:22 am
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
> From: "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]>
> Organization: Read Free News
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:26:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
>
> Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
> definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
> hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
> healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing and
> survive until getting home. The latter worked.
Cebiche is devastating. I ate it just once, here in France, at a place
called Café Pacifico, which served Mexican/South American food. I ate the
cebiche. Later in the evening, I had one of the worst food poisoning
reactions I have ever had. My face swelled. My throat started to close.
That one really frightened me, but fortunately I still had enough time to
take some prescription antihistamines I had left over from another problem.
My throat swelling subsided, and I made it through the night without having
to call SOS Médecins, our emergency medical service that comes to the house.
The next day I went to a regular doctor, someone I didn't know because my
own doctor was on vacation, he was on call. He asked me to show him a photo
of myself, so he could know what I normally looked like. It was that bad.
Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
Donna Evleth
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> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:26:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
>
> Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
> definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
> hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
> healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing and
> survive until getting home. The latter worked.
Cebiche is devastating. I ate it just once, here in France, at a place
called Café Pacifico, which served Mexican/South American food. I ate the
cebiche. Later in the evening, I had one of the worst food poisoning
reactions I have ever had. My face swelled. My throat started to close.
That one really frightened me, but fortunately I still had enough time to
take some prescription antihistamines I had left over from another problem.
My throat swelling subsided, and I made it through the night without having
to call SOS Médecins, our emergency medical service that comes to the house.
The next day I went to a regular doctor, someone I didn't know because my
own doctor was on vacation, he was on call. He asked me to show him a photo
of myself, so he could know what I normally looked like. It was that bad.
Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
Donna Evleth
May 22nd 2005, 5:35 am
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
"Donna Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEB68C5C.9EE6%[email protected]...
> > From: "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]>
> > Organization: Read Free News
> > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:26:00 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
> >
> > Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
> > definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
> > hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
> > healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing
and
> > survive until getting home. The latter worked.
> Cebiche is devastating. I ate it just once, here in France, at a place
> called Café Pacifico, which served Mexican/South American food. I ate the
> cebiche. Later in the evening, I had one of the worst food poisoning
> reactions I have ever had. My face swelled. My throat started to close.
> That one really frightened me, but fortunately I still had enough time to
> take some prescription antihistamines I had left over from another
problem.
> My throat swelling subsided, and I made it through the night without
having
> to call SOS Médecins, our emergency medical service that comes to the
house.
> The next day I went to a regular doctor, someone I didn't know because my
> own doctor was on vacation, he was on call. He asked me to show him a
photo
> of myself, so he could know what I normally looked like. It was that bad.
> Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
Especially in the back streets of Lima.
news:BEB68C5C.9EE6%[email protected]...
> > From: "Miss L. Toe" <[email protected]>
> > Organization: Read Free News
> > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:26:00 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
> >
> > Mine started before the flight (it was probably the cebiche) so was
> > definately not KLM's fault, my dilema was do I stay in Peru have all the
> > hassles of insurance claims for the missed flight and try out Lima's
> > healthcare system, or see if I can get to the airport without collapsing
and
> > survive until getting home. The latter worked.
> Cebiche is devastating. I ate it just once, here in France, at a place
> called Café Pacifico, which served Mexican/South American food. I ate the
> cebiche. Later in the evening, I had one of the worst food poisoning
> reactions I have ever had. My face swelled. My throat started to close.
> That one really frightened me, but fortunately I still had enough time to
> take some prescription antihistamines I had left over from another
problem.
> My throat swelling subsided, and I made it through the night without
having
> to call SOS Médecins, our emergency medical service that comes to the
house.
> The next day I went to a regular doctor, someone I didn't know because my
> own doctor was on vacation, he was on call. He asked me to show him a
photo
> of myself, so he could know what I normally looked like. It was that bad.
> Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
Especially in the back streets of Lima.
May 22nd 2005, 5:56 am
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Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> To contrast to that behavior, we once took Air France first class from
> NY to Paris. Same dog but in our carrier. Shortly after takeoff
> a flight attendant (French) said that we "certainly weren't going to
> keep" our little toutou stay closed up in the horrible box for the flight.
> So we let him out. Later on, after dinner, the same person came
> up and said that unfortunately they were out of lamb but would our
> dog like some sliced duck?
>
> Certainly!
>
> This, of course, occurs at three star restaurants in France, our
> dogs have been served with food on silver plates at times.
> Years ago we bought a book VIP Chiens, which listed all the places
> in France which accept dogs.
That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> To contrast to that behavior, we once took Air France first class from
> NY to Paris. Same dog but in our carrier. Shortly after takeoff
> a flight attendant (French) said that we "certainly weren't going to
> keep" our little toutou stay closed up in the horrible box for the flight.
> So we let him out. Later on, after dinner, the same person came
> up and said that unfortunately they were out of lamb but would our
> dog like some sliced duck?
>
> Certainly!
>
> This, of course, occurs at three star restaurants in France, our
> dogs have been served with food on silver plates at times.
> Years ago we bought a book VIP Chiens, which listed all the places
> in France which accept dogs.
That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 22nd 2005, 7:58 am
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Donna Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
I've never had a problem, but I don't think I've ever eaten it in a
restaurant either- always had it homemade- by Peruvians! I've also made
it myself (albeit usually under Peruvian supervision!)- it's one of my
favourite seafood dishes in fact. It sounds more like this is a hygeine
problem with the restaurants- I'm assuming for example that raw fish
doesn't affect you similarly?
Although home made ceviche will even keep overnight in the fridge with
no problem, it's one of the reasons I've never been too keen on ordering
it in a restaurant- that is, it is by its nature prepared in advance.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> Moral of the story. Stay away from cebiche.
I've never had a problem, but I don't think I've ever eaten it in a
restaurant either- always had it homemade- by Peruvians! I've also made
it myself (albeit usually under Peruvian supervision!)- it's one of my
favourite seafood dishes in fact. It sounds more like this is a hygeine
problem with the restaurants- I'm assuming for example that raw fish
doesn't affect you similarly?
Although home made ceviche will even keep overnight in the fridge with
no problem, it's one of the reasons I've never been too keen on ordering
it in a restaurant- that is, it is by its nature prepared in advance.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 22nd 2005, 8:04 am
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On Sun, 22 May 2005 11:08:52 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:19:04 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:40:34 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:38:07 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>>This is the first case of airplane food poisoning
>>>>I have come across.
>>>>Anybody have any experiences anywhere?
>>>I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>>Again this comes down to being certain it was that food. Presumably
>>you had been eating other stuff in the days leading up to the flight,
>>yeah?
>A colleague and I travelled together, we were both very ill, the only
>food we had eaten in common was the filth Pan Am served.
Perhaps you both contracted the same bug from each other.
OK, I know you may be right, but food poisoning is really tough to
nail down for certain.
--
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>On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:19:04 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:40:34 +0200, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:38:07 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>>This is the first case of airplane food poisoning
>>>>I have come across.
>>>>Anybody have any experiences anywhere?
>>>I had food poisoning from a PanAm flight.
>>Again this comes down to being certain it was that food. Presumably
>>you had been eating other stuff in the days leading up to the flight,
>>yeah?
>A colleague and I travelled together, we were both very ill, the only
>food we had eaten in common was the filth Pan Am served.
Perhaps you both contracted the same bug from each other.
OK, I know you may be right, but food poisoning is really tough to
nail down for certain.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
May 22nd 2005, 2:14 pm
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco wrtoe:
> That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
> dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
> leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
> still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
> it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
> going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no place
in a passenger airline cabin.
--
Best
Greg
> That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
> dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
> leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
> still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
> it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
> going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no place
in a passenger airline cabin.
--
Best
Greg
May 22nd 2005, 6:52 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On 22/05/05 19:56, in article
1gwz8f4.19isav8ppk9sbN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.com, "chancellor of
the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
> dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
> leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
> still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
> it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
> going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
Dogs can go in the cabins if under 5 kilos and fit in a box which goes
under the seat.
At the end of some flights I have removed the dog in getting off and
the air hostess remarked "oh, there was a dog in that box"
Going as air freight can be terrible for animals. Stories of
animal deaths in hot weather are not exceptional. And they can
missed the flight and not be rejoined with their masters
at the final destination.
We traveled with our first dog back and forth to France in the late
60 and early 70s by boat. The SS France had excellent kennel facilities
an their animal care sailor was always the same guy (we made 16 crossings
on the France). The dogs like him. The ship had a walk area and owners
could go up to the facility when they wanted. And on a French boat they
ate well!
We hated taking the plane in general, but it is almost hell for animals.
We gave up taking our present dog, a wire haired dachs, to Greece since
he got gastro on the first half dozen visits and we arranged for
somebody to take him into their home, who lives in the Parisian
region.
Traveling with a dog to the US is hell too since the animal is not
allowed in restaurants and many hotels-motels don't want pets.
We brought our first dog across country by car in the summer and that
was a trial at noon, finding a place in the shade. Sometimes one of
us remained in the car with the air conditioner going.
We found out recently from a relative that Motel 6 allows dogs, and
ironically it is ran by a French Hotel chain, Accor. Accor also runs
Ibis in France which also allows dogs (a 5 euro surchage). But most
hotel, motels, and restaurants in France allow dogs, the Michlin
lists them. Ordinary places almost never refuse a small dog. Most
French dogs are well trained restaurant wise, ours is only
apparent in coming or leaving. More often he is the subject of
conversations (see-http://homepage.mac.com/evleth/PhotoAlbum12.html)
"Gaston in conversation with a fan".
I personally have no allergy to dogs. I am an asthmatic and will
"tighten up" with cats and rabbits, but cigars are the worse. My biggest
negative reaction in flying is that the air is too cool but I don`t remember
having an asthma attack on a plane.
Earl
1gwz8f4.19isav8ppk9sbN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.com, "chancellor of
the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That's very nice for you and your dogs. For those who are allergic to
> dogs, it could be far less pleasant. At least in a restaurant, they can
> leave. On a flight, it's more difficult to do so. I didn't know airlines
> still allowed animals in the main cabin. I have to say, I've never seen
> it happen, but I've noticed animals in boxes at airports- for flights
> going to the UK, I wouldn't expect to, for obvious reasons.
Dogs can go in the cabins if under 5 kilos and fit in a box which goes
under the seat.
At the end of some flights I have removed the dog in getting off and
the air hostess remarked "oh, there was a dog in that box"
Going as air freight can be terrible for animals. Stories of
animal deaths in hot weather are not exceptional. And they can
missed the flight and not be rejoined with their masters
at the final destination.
We traveled with our first dog back and forth to France in the late
60 and early 70s by boat. The SS France had excellent kennel facilities
an their animal care sailor was always the same guy (we made 16 crossings
on the France). The dogs like him. The ship had a walk area and owners
could go up to the facility when they wanted. And on a French boat they
ate well!
We hated taking the plane in general, but it is almost hell for animals.
We gave up taking our present dog, a wire haired dachs, to Greece since
he got gastro on the first half dozen visits and we arranged for
somebody to take him into their home, who lives in the Parisian
region.
Traveling with a dog to the US is hell too since the animal is not
allowed in restaurants and many hotels-motels don't want pets.
We brought our first dog across country by car in the summer and that
was a trial at noon, finding a place in the shade. Sometimes one of
us remained in the car with the air conditioner going.
We found out recently from a relative that Motel 6 allows dogs, and
ironically it is ran by a French Hotel chain, Accor. Accor also runs
Ibis in France which also allows dogs (a 5 euro surchage). But most
hotel, motels, and restaurants in France allow dogs, the Michlin
lists them. Ordinary places almost never refuse a small dog. Most
French dogs are well trained restaurant wise, ours is only
apparent in coming or leaving. More often he is the subject of
conversations (see-http://homepage.mac.com/evleth/PhotoAlbum12.html)
"Gaston in conversation with a fan".
I personally have no allergy to dogs. I am an asthmatic and will
"tighten up" with cats and rabbits, but cigars are the worse. My biggest
negative reaction in flying is that the air is too cool but I don`t remember
having an asthma attack on a plane.
Earl
May 22nd 2005, 7:17 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On 23/05/05 4:14, in article
[email protected] t, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no place
> in a passenger airline cabin.
Mankind and dogs have a long relationship, which has become friendlier in
time.
A nice historical study of the rise of the toutous in the French
bourgeoisie is Kathleen Kete's book "The Beast in the Boudoir".
So the beast made if from the Boudoir to the passenger cabin.
Earl
[email protected] t, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no place
> in a passenger airline cabin.
Mankind and dogs have a long relationship, which has become friendlier in
time.
A nice historical study of the rise of the toutous in the French
bourgeoisie is Kathleen Kete's book "The Beast in the Boudoir".
So the beast made if from the Boudoir to the passenger cabin.
Earl
May 22nd 2005, 8:52 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 23/05/05 4:14, in article
> [email protected] t, "Gregory Morrow"
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
>> Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no
>> place
>> in a passenger airline cabin.
> Mankind and dogs have a long relationship, which has become friendlier in
> time.
Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
Keith
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> On 23/05/05 4:14, in article
> [email protected] t, "Gregory Morrow"
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
>> Dogs are filthy creatures (I cannot stand them actually) and have no
>> place
>> in a passenger airline cabin.
> Mankind and dogs have a long relationship, which has become friendlier in
> time.
Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
Keith
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May 22nd 2005, 8:58 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On 23/05/05 10:52, in article [email protected], "Keith
W" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
>
> This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
The dog wags its tail.
Earl
W" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
>
> This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
The dog wags its tail.
Earl
May 22nd 2005, 9:10 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:58:34 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 23/05/05 10:52, in article [email protected], "Keith
>W" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
>>
>> This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
>The dog wags its tail.
The dog also cocks a leg.
wrote:
>On 23/05/05 10:52, in article [email protected], "Keith
>W" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mankind also has a long relationship with the rat, flea and cockroach.
>>
>> This does not make them desirable travelling companions.
>The dog wags its tail.
The dog also cocks a leg.
May 22nd 2005, 9:21 pm
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Re: Airline food with carrots blamed for food poisoning
On 23/05/05 11:10, in article [email protected],
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The dog also cocks a leg.
Males. It marks territory Standard behavior. One notes
that human urine smells worse. There must be an evolutionary
reason for this too. Maybe man uses urine for territorial
marking too.
Earl
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The dog also cocks a leg.
Males. It marks territory Standard behavior. One notes
that human urine smells worse. There must be an evolutionary
reason for this too. Maybe man uses urine for territorial
marking too.
Earl
