Afrikaans and Dutch language
Feb 26th 2003, 9:56 am
#16
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Re: Afrikaans and Dutch language
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:49:05 GMT, John Bermont
wrote:
>Alec wrote:
>>
>> This isn't entirely European travel related, but can someone enlighten me on
>> the differences and similarities between the two? Grammar, vocabulary,
>> syntax? Can a Dutch speaker converse/understand Afrikaans and vice versa?
>>
>Years ago I had a girl friend in Haarlem who was originally from South
>Africa. She spoke Afrikaans but had no problem conversing in The
>Netherlands. The language difference is that Afrikaans is a pidgin
>Dutch. I.e., the grammar of Afrikaans is greatly simplified though the
>language is intact. The Dutch who emigrated to South Africa were known
>as Boers, which is the Dutch word for farmer. A war was named after
>them, and a beautiful mild young Dutch cheese is named Boerkaas. My
>friend, Annette Kampinga, 25, was murdered by a terrorist in 1980.
Strictly speaking, a pidgin is a simplified language created by an
indigenous population that doesn't know the language of the new
people. It generally has rudimentary grammar and may not be considered
a true language by some linguists. The local Blacks might have created
a pidgin to deal with the Boers, but the Boers would have been
devcelopign their own language in isolation from the Dutch homeland.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
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wrote:
>Alec wrote:
>>
>> This isn't entirely European travel related, but can someone enlighten me on
>> the differences and similarities between the two? Grammar, vocabulary,
>> syntax? Can a Dutch speaker converse/understand Afrikaans and vice versa?
>>
>Years ago I had a girl friend in Haarlem who was originally from South
>Africa. She spoke Afrikaans but had no problem conversing in The
>Netherlands. The language difference is that Afrikaans is a pidgin
>Dutch. I.e., the grammar of Afrikaans is greatly simplified though the
>language is intact. The Dutch who emigrated to South Africa were known
>as Boers, which is the Dutch word for farmer. A war was named after
>them, and a beautiful mild young Dutch cheese is named Boerkaas. My
>friend, Annette Kampinga, 25, was murdered by a terrorist in 1980.
Strictly speaking, a pidgin is a simplified language created by an
indigenous population that doesn't know the language of the new
people. It generally has rudimentary grammar and may not be considered
a true language by some linguists. The local Blacks might have created
a pidgin to deal with the Boers, but the Boers would have been
devcelopign their own language in isolation from the Dutch homeland.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Feb 27th 2003, 7:25 am
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Re: Afrikaans and Dutch language
"a.spencer3" wrote:
>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote in message
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>> It is no less "French" than the French spoken in Quebec, but neither one
>> of them is Parisian French (which, when I was going to school, was
>> considered the model for "pure" French).
>For some reason, I'm told in the Netherlands that 'pure' Dutch is that of
>Utrecht. Any reason?
I presume that your informant was from Utrecht.
PB
>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> It is no less "French" than the French spoken in Quebec, but neither one
>> of them is Parisian French (which, when I was going to school, was
>> considered the model for "pure" French).
>For some reason, I'm told in the Netherlands that 'pure' Dutch is that of
>Utrecht. Any reason?
I presume that your informant was from Utrecht.
PB
