"single room" vs. "double room"
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"single room" vs. "double room"
We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
ask in this message:
What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
big is a "single room" bed?
I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
is on the order of EUR 100).
cj
and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
ask in this message:
What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
big is a "single room" bed?
I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
is on the order of EUR 100).
cj
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Re: "single room" vs. "double room"
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:28:46 GMT, Chris Jarshant
wrote:
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
narrow one big enough for one person.
A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
people. That's what you'll want.
In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
way, ask for a "camera doppia".
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
Not big enough. Really. You may not be allowed to take a single room if
there are 2 of you.
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price?
They may not even have a room for you. They will certainly make you pay for
a double room.
> The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
You don't have any choice in this matter.
But the$10 difference is less than the price of 2 single rooms.
So double room is cheaper.
Tim.
wrote:
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
narrow one big enough for one person.
A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
people. That's what you'll want.
In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
way, ask for a "camera doppia".
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
Not big enough. Really. You may not be allowed to take a single room if
there are 2 of you.
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price?
They may not even have a room for you. They will certainly make you pay for
a double room.
> The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
You don't have any choice in this matter.
But the$10 difference is less than the price of 2 single rooms.
So double room is cheaper.
Tim.
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Tim wrote in
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> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> narrow one big enough for one person.
> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> people. That's what you'll want.
> In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
> matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
> way, ask for a "camera doppia".
Tim,
Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
a camera doppia!
cj
newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost:
> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> narrow one big enough for one person.
> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> people. That's what you'll want.
> In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
> matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
> way, ask for a "camera doppia".
Tim,
Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
a camera doppia!
cj
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"Chris Jarshant" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
You can't book a single-room for two persons! A single room is for one
person and not more!
lg Gernot
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> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
You can't book a single-room for two persons! A single room is for one
person and not more!
lg Gernot
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On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:53:32 GMT, Chris Jarshant
wrote:
> Tim wrote in
> newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost:
>> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
>> narrow one big enough for one person.
>> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
>> people. That's what you'll want.
>> In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
>> matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
>> way, ask for a "camera doppia".
> Tim,
> Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
> a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
> two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
> a camera doppia!
I'd never considered it that way before, I can see how it could be
confusing.
If you'd like a double bed, ask for a "matrimoniale," if they haven't got
one, they'll offer a "doppia" if they have one. There is rarely a
difference in price. It is quite common for a double-bed to consist of a
single frame with 2 single-mattresses.
It's allways good to check if there's a shower en-suite, especially in the
budget hotels/B&B places. It is common to have a shared bathroom, located
somewhere on the same floor (sometimes on another floor).
Tim.
wrote:
> Tim wrote in
> newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost:
>> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
>> narrow one big enough for one person.
>> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
>> people. That's what you'll want.
>> In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
>> matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
>> way, ask for a "camera doppia".
> Tim,
> Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
> a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
> two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
> a camera doppia!
I'd never considered it that way before, I can see how it could be
confusing.
If you'd like a double bed, ask for a "matrimoniale," if they haven't got
one, they'll offer a "doppia" if they have one. There is rarely a
difference in price. It is quite common for a double-bed to consist of a
single frame with 2 single-mattresses.
It's allways good to check if there's a shower en-suite, especially in the
budget hotels/B&B places. It is common to have a shared bathroom, located
somewhere on the same floor (sometimes on another floor).
Tim.
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Chris Jarshant wrote:
>
> Tim wrote in
> newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost:
>
> > A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> > narrow one big enough for one person.
> > A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> > people. That's what you'll want.
> > In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
> > matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
> > way, ask for a "camera doppia".
>
> Tim,
>
> Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
> a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
> two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
> a camera doppia!
>
In Britain this is a twin room (two separate beds) as opposed to a double,
which usually means a single bed large enough for two people (although
sometimes this can be a matter of opinion!).
Anita
>
> Tim wrote in
> newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost:
>
> > A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> > narrow one big enough for one person.
> > A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> > people. That's what you'll want.
> > In Italian-speaking places, if you want a double-bed, ask for a "Camera
> > matrimoniale" -if you want to separate beds, of aren't bothered eiother
> > way, ask for a "camera doppia".
>
> Tim,
>
> Thanks for the description. It definitely sounds like I want
> a double room. I was thinking perhaps double meant "suite" (i.e.
> two small rooms in one) but that's not the case. I'll ask for
> a camera doppia!
>
In Britain this is a twin room (two separate beds) as opposed to a double,
which usually means a single bed large enough for two people (although
sometimes this can be a matter of opinion!).
Anita
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> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
Do not assume anything. Sometimes a double room includes two
twin beds and sometimes it includes a double bed. In the USA
rooms almost always include queen beds or larger, where in Europe
rooms only include queen (or larger) beds in ritzy hotels like the
Radisson. In my experience, double rooms in Europe usually include
two twin beds, only good if you are not tall and wish to sleep alone.
If you need a large bed, make sure your hotel reservation has it in
writing.
Casey
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
Do not assume anything. Sometimes a double room includes two
twin beds and sometimes it includes a double bed. In the USA
rooms almost always include queen beds or larger, where in Europe
rooms only include queen (or larger) beds in ritzy hotels like the
Radisson. In my experience, double rooms in Europe usually include
two twin beds, only good if you are not tall and wish to sleep alone.
If you need a large bed, make sure your hotel reservation has it in
writing.
Casey
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Chris Jarshant wrote:
>What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
Well, I learned that something "single" is "one piece" and if you
double it, you have "two pieces".
So you better book a double room.
>I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
>so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
>price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
Yes, because a lot of times the single room is smaller than a double
room.
>big is a "single room" bed?
That will depend on the hotel - I know single rooms with one single
bed (90 cm/100 cm to 200 cm), but I also know hotels with Queen or
King Size beds in a single room.
>I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
>I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
>pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
That will happen most times.
Greetings from Cologne
Andreas
>What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
Well, I learned that something "single" is "one piece" and if you
double it, you have "two pieces".
So you better book a double room.
>I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
>so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
>price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
Yes, because a lot of times the single room is smaller than a double
room.
>big is a "single room" bed?
That will depend on the hotel - I know single rooms with one single
bed (90 cm/100 cm to 200 cm), but I also know hotels with Queen or
King Size beds in a single room.
>I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
>I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
>pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
That will happen most times.
Greetings from Cologne
Andreas
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Chris Jarshant wrote:
>
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
>
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
>
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
Why don't you ask the hotels where you're considering making
reservations? Seems to me that would make better sense than getting a
nasty surprise upon arrival, because you misunderstood their terms! I
think the general understanding is that "single" refers to one person
and "double" to two, regardless of the size or number of beds. Also,
depending upon where you are going, some hotels charge per room, and
others per person - I think it can vary.
>
> cj
>
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
>
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
>
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
Why don't you ask the hotels where you're considering making
reservations? Seems to me that would make better sense than getting a
nasty surprise upon arrival, because you misunderstood their terms! I
think the general understanding is that "single" refers to one person
and "double" to two, regardless of the size or number of beds. Also,
depending upon where you are going, some hotels charge per room, and
others per person - I think it can vary.
>
> cj
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In article , A.Malhotra
writes
>In Britain this is a twin room (two separate beds) as opposed to a double,
>which usually means a single bed large enough for two people (although
>sometimes this can be a matter of opinion!)
I have never seen a single room with anything more than a 3 foot bed.
--
Marie Lewis
writes
>In Britain this is a twin room (two separate beds) as opposed to a double,
>which usually means a single bed large enough for two people (although
>sometimes this can be a matter of opinion!)
I have never seen a single room with anything more than a 3 foot bed.
--
Marie Lewis
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If I have any confusion, I just ask for a room for two people in the
same bed. Never had a problem which can happen if there is a problem
with clear communication due to differing languages.
Susan
Chris Jarshant wrote:
>
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
>
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
>
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
>
> cj
same bed. Never had a problem which can happen if there is a problem
with clear communication due to differing languages.
Susan
Chris Jarshant wrote:
>
> We are travelling through Italy, Austria, Switzerland,
> and in my earlier rambling post, I had a question buried
> in there that I was unable to get an answer to, so I'll
> ask in this message:
>
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I only require one room with a bed big enough for two,
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
> big is a "single room" bed?
>
> I am afraid that I book a "single room" now, and then when
> I arrive, they see there are two people and force us to
> pay the "double room" price? The difference is more than $10
> so the argument from the "Int'l Driver License" thread
> doesn't hold much water (which is to say "just pay it
> and be done with it" doesn't work when the difference
> is on the order of EUR 100).
>
> cj
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Chris Jarshant wrote:
> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks so
obvious to me !
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
My experience is that prices for a single are not THAT lower than a
double (definitely higher than half the rate of the double). Single
rooms are mainly for businessmen travelling alone, and are a scarce
resource, specially in more holiday-oriented hotels. When one is
travelling alone, one has often one has to take a "double room in use as
single" (which costs more than a single). Similarly, when taking an
organized tour, if one travels alone and does not want to share a room,
there is a "single room surcharge".
> How big is a "single room" bed?
I don't have a meter. I would say in Italy most beds in a single are
what we call "una piazza" ("one square"), rarely "una piazza e mezza"
(one and half square), which is a bit wider. The same for additional
beds in a family room.
A generic double room may vary from a "matrimoniale" (which has a
single, wider, "due piazze" bed, width = 2 x una piazza) to a "camera a
due letti" or "letti separati" (twin bed, which has two separate beds),
to the case where one can have both arrangements, i.e. there are two
separate beds, which however can be put close together and with a single
linen set.
If you want a twin bed room, you'd better ask. I always do so when
reserving, when I travel with my mother. Sometimes at arrival they give
us a matrimoniale by mistake. When we show our reservation to the desk,
they either change to a twin room, or send a waiter to separate the
beds, if this is allowed.
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> What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks so
obvious to me !
> so is it possible to book a room with the "single room"
> price, which is usually lower than a "double room"? How
My experience is that prices for a single are not THAT lower than a
double (definitely higher than half the rate of the double). Single
rooms are mainly for businessmen travelling alone, and are a scarce
resource, specially in more holiday-oriented hotels. When one is
travelling alone, one has often one has to take a "double room in use as
single" (which costs more than a single). Similarly, when taking an
organized tour, if one travels alone and does not want to share a room,
there is a "single room surcharge".
> How big is a "single room" bed?
I don't have a meter. I would say in Italy most beds in a single are
what we call "una piazza" ("one square"), rarely "una piazza e mezza"
(one and half square), which is a bit wider. The same for additional
beds in a family room.
A generic double room may vary from a "matrimoniale" (which has a
single, wider, "due piazze" bed, width = 2 x una piazza) to a "camera a
due letti" or "letti separati" (twin bed, which has two separate beds),
to the case where one can have both arrangements, i.e. there are two
separate beds, which however can be put close together and with a single
linen set.
If you want a twin bed room, you'd better ask. I always do so when
reserving, when I travel with my mother. Sometimes at arrival they give
us a matrimoniale by mistake. When we show our reservation to the desk,
they either change to a twin room, or send a waiter to separate the
beds, if this is allowed.
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> > What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks
> so obvious to me !
You've obviously never traveled to the USA. The descriptions of
single and double rooms are completely different. In the USA, it
is almost impossible to find a room with smaller than a queen sized
bed (except for one-star motels). In Europe, that is normal. In the
USA, a double room will probably contain two queen or king sized
beds, while in Europe a double room may contain two twin beds or
one double bed, usually two twins.
> > How big is a "single room" bed?
The bed will either be a twin or double, usually a twin.
Casey
> I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks
> so obvious to me !
You've obviously never traveled to the USA. The descriptions of
single and double rooms are completely different. In the USA, it
is almost impossible to find a room with smaller than a queen sized
bed (except for one-star motels). In Europe, that is normal. In the
USA, a double room will probably contain two queen or king sized
beds, while in Europe a double room may contain two twin beds or
one double bed, usually two twins.
> > How big is a "single room" bed?
The bed will either be a twin or double, usually a twin.
Casey
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"Tim" wrote in message
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> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> narrow one big enough for one person.
> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> people. That's what you'll want.
In practice, many hotels find it uneconomic to keep separate rooms for one
person bookings and the difference between whether a room is a single or a
double is whether they put one or two people in it. It has to be about 40
years since I had a single room that did not have a double or twin beds.
Colin Bignell
newsprrot3csawxhha1@localhost...
...
> A single room, is for one person. It is with a single bed - that is a
> narrow one big enough for one person.
> A double room is for 2 people. It has a bed, or beds to accommodate 2
> people. That's what you'll want.
In practice, many hotels find it uneconomic to keep separate rooms for one
person bookings and the difference between whether a room is a single or a
double is whether they put one or two people in it. It has to be about 40
years since I had a single room that did not have a double or twin beds.
Colin Bignell
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Casey wrote:
>
> > > What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> >
> > I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks
> > so obvious to me !
>
> You've obviously never traveled to the USA. The descriptions of
> single and double rooms are completely different. In the USA, it
> is almost impossible to find a room with smaller than a queen sized
> bed (except for one-star motels). In Europe, that is normal. In the
> USA, a double room will probably contain two queen or king sized
> beds, while in Europe a double room may contain two twin beds or
> one double bed, usually two twins.
>
> > > How big is a "single room" bed?
>
> The bed will either be a twin or double, usually a twin.
Perhaps it was the hotels I chose, but although I always book a "single"
room when I go to Europe, I've never been given smaller than a "double"
bed (and sometimes queen-size).
>
> > > What is a "single room" vs. "double room"? My wife and
> >
> > I am really surprised to hear such a question. The answer looks
> > so obvious to me !
>
> You've obviously never traveled to the USA. The descriptions of
> single and double rooms are completely different. In the USA, it
> is almost impossible to find a room with smaller than a queen sized
> bed (except for one-star motels). In Europe, that is normal. In the
> USA, a double room will probably contain two queen or king sized
> beds, while in Europe a double room may contain two twin beds or
> one double bed, usually two twins.
>
> > > How big is a "single room" bed?
>
> The bed will either be a twin or double, usually a twin.
Perhaps it was the hotels I chose, but although I always book a "single"
room when I go to Europe, I've never been given smaller than a "double"
bed (and sometimes queen-size).