Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Mar 1st 2004, 11:41 am
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
"Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
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> in article SjP0c.3036$%[email protected] m, Jim Davis
> Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 7:04 PM:
> >> Fine - the point remains, people "get upset" about all kinds of things,
> > all
> >> the time. If the airline is going to cancel flights over it - on
safety,
> >> humanitarian, or karmic grounds - they should ensure enough redundancy
to
> >> cover these out-of-the-blue contingencies (unlike weather or
mechanical).
> >
> > No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1
in a
> > million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake
it
> > off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times,
for
> > hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
> Exactly my point, my friend. People expect, and make allowances for, and
> forgive, the delays inherent in air travel due to the vagaries of the
method
> - mechanical delays, weather delays, etc. This is especially true when
the
> airline is up front about it (e.g. how often have we shrugged off "flight
> canceled" and how often have we been ticked when there are a series of six
> consecutive "one hour" delays?).
> If, conversely, the airline is going to cancel a flight because of a
> particular policy ("we won't make you fly because you had a close
> encounter"), it is incumbent upon the airline to make it right by its pax.
What I have read in the article, it stated that passingers were put on other
flights. Seems that they tried to make it right.
> We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
> knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
> with a spouse or the dog died or.....
Actually, my company is pretty good in that way. I'm a Service Engineer, &
work with Heavy Machinery. We are limited to no more than 12 hrs. work with
no tolerance. If our Service Manager senses any kind of unusual stress from
one of our service people, he will (and has) pull them from the job, & send
a replacement. The person pulled, goes home for a day or two on "standby"
pay. And probibly because of this, we have an excellent safety record.
wrote in message
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> in article SjP0c.3036$%[email protected] m, Jim Davis
> Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 7:04 PM:
> >> Fine - the point remains, people "get upset" about all kinds of things,
> > all
> >> the time. If the airline is going to cancel flights over it - on
safety,
> >> humanitarian, or karmic grounds - they should ensure enough redundancy
to
> >> cover these out-of-the-blue contingencies (unlike weather or
mechanical).
> >
> > No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1
in a
> > million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake
it
> > off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times,
for
> > hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
> Exactly my point, my friend. People expect, and make allowances for, and
> forgive, the delays inherent in air travel due to the vagaries of the
method
> - mechanical delays, weather delays, etc. This is especially true when
the
> airline is up front about it (e.g. how often have we shrugged off "flight
> canceled" and how often have we been ticked when there are a series of six
> consecutive "one hour" delays?).
> If, conversely, the airline is going to cancel a flight because of a
> particular policy ("we won't make you fly because you had a close
> encounter"), it is incumbent upon the airline to make it right by its pax.
What I have read in the article, it stated that passingers were put on other
flights. Seems that they tried to make it right.
> We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
> knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
> with a spouse or the dog died or.....
Actually, my company is pretty good in that way. I'm a Service Engineer, &
work with Heavy Machinery. We are limited to no more than 12 hrs. work with
no tolerance. If our Service Manager senses any kind of unusual stress from
one of our service people, he will (and has) pull them from the job, & send
a replacement. The person pulled, goes home for a day or two on "standby"
pay. And probibly because of this, we have an excellent safety record.
Mar 1st 2004, 11:44 am
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:49:24 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
<[email protected] a> wrote:
>in article SjP0c.3036$%[email protected] m, Jim Davis
>Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 7:04 PM:
>>> Fine - the point remains, people "get upset" about all kinds of things,
>> all
>>> the time. If the airline is going to cancel flights over it - on safety,
>>> humanitarian, or karmic grounds - they should ensure enough redundancy to
>>> cover these out-of-the-blue contingencies (unlike weather or mechanical).
>>
>> No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1 in a
>> million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake it
>> off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times, for
>> hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
>Exactly my point, my friend. People expect, and make allowances for, and
>forgive, the delays inherent in air travel due to the vagaries of the method
>- mechanical delays, weather delays, etc. This is especially true when the
>airline is up front about it (e.g. how often have we shrugged off "flight
>canceled" and how often have we been ticked when there are a series of six
>consecutive "one hour" delays?).
>If, conversely, the airline is going to cancel a flight because of a
>particular policy ("we won't make you fly because you had a close
>encounter"), it is incumbent upon the airline to make it right by its pax.
>We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
>knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
>with a spouse or the dog died or.....
I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
<[email protected] a> wrote:
>in article SjP0c.3036$%[email protected] m, Jim Davis
>Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 7:04 PM:
>>> Fine - the point remains, people "get upset" about all kinds of things,
>> all
>>> the time. If the airline is going to cancel flights over it - on safety,
>>> humanitarian, or karmic grounds - they should ensure enough redundancy to
>>> cover these out-of-the-blue contingencies (unlike weather or mechanical).
>>
>> No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1 in a
>> million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake it
>> off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times, for
>> hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
>Exactly my point, my friend. People expect, and make allowances for, and
>forgive, the delays inherent in air travel due to the vagaries of the method
>- mechanical delays, weather delays, etc. This is especially true when the
>airline is up front about it (e.g. how often have we shrugged off "flight
>canceled" and how often have we been ticked when there are a series of six
>consecutive "one hour" delays?).
>If, conversely, the airline is going to cancel a flight because of a
>particular policy ("we won't make you fly because you had a close
>encounter"), it is incumbent upon the airline to make it right by its pax.
>We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
>knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
>with a spouse or the dog died or.....
I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
Mar 1st 2004, 11:50 am
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
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> "Attorney" is an American term. I am a barrister and solicitor 8-)
A rose by any other name. You're still a drain on society.
Bob
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> "Attorney" is an American term. I am a barrister and solicitor 8-)
A rose by any other name. You're still a drain on society.
Bob
Mar 1st 2004, 11:53 am
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
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> If some bloke wants to "off" himself, and doesn't have the decency to
> do it in private and without affecting a bunch of strangers, I have no
> sympathy or empathy for him. I'd do the civic duty (reporting,
> statement to the police, etc.) and that's it. And I probably would
> want the estate to pay for any vehicular damage. As for the rest of
> the public at large, I wouldn't prejudice my clientele by putting off
> their matter: I'd either handle it or give it over to someone else to
> do, without delay and without extra cost or hassle. Not the client's
> fault I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
> Following along: It's certainly not NZ's pax who should suffer.
That's the best non sequitur I've seen all morning. You're clearly
not a proper lawyer, but I'll bet you play one on television.
Bob
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news:BC693667.214C8%[email protected]:
> If some bloke wants to "off" himself, and doesn't have the decency to
> do it in private and without affecting a bunch of strangers, I have no
> sympathy or empathy for him. I'd do the civic duty (reporting,
> statement to the police, etc.) and that's it. And I probably would
> want the estate to pay for any vehicular damage. As for the rest of
> the public at large, I wouldn't prejudice my clientele by putting off
> their matter: I'd either handle it or give it over to someone else to
> do, without delay and without extra cost or hassle. Not the client's
> fault I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
> Following along: It's certainly not NZ's pax who should suffer.
That's the best non sequitur I've seen all morning. You're clearly
not a proper lawyer, but I'll bet you play one on television.
Bob
Mar 1st 2004, 11:59 am
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Re: Sheep shaggers head home alone after LA suicide
Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
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>I, for one, would have been completely ticked. Sure, it sounds insensitive,
>but crap happens. Do they cancel a flight if the pilot's dog dies? No? I
>would think that would affect the pilot a lot more than some stranger while
>you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It was imperative that the sheep shaggers be flown home immediately to
be with their fluffy white sheep. It has been demonstrated in studies
that they recover faster whilst in the company of their romantic
partners.
wrote:
>I, for one, would have been completely ticked. Sure, it sounds insensitive,
>but crap happens. Do they cancel a flight if the pilot's dog dies? No? I
>would think that would affect the pilot a lot more than some stranger while
>you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It was imperative that the sheep shaggers be flown home immediately to
be with their fluffy white sheep. It has been demonstrated in studies
that they recover faster whilst in the company of their romantic
partners.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:01 pm
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"budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:49:24 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
> <[email protected] a> wrote:
> I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
I was in Buffalo, NY in the 70's. A guy jumped from the roof of City Hall.
What he didn't count on, was the 3rd or 4th floor balcony in front with a
flag pole. He was impaled half way down the pole for some time before the
fire dept. cut down the pole. I was stuck in traffic, while they cut him
down. I believe they closed down City Hall for the day.
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> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:49:24 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
> <[email protected] a> wrote:
> I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
I was in Buffalo, NY in the 70's. A guy jumped from the roof of City Hall.
What he didn't count on, was the 3rd or 4th floor balcony in front with a
flag pole. He was impaled half way down the pole for some time before the
fire dept. cut down the pole. I was stuck in traffic, while they cut him
down. I believe they closed down City Hall for the day.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:09 pm
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"Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
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> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the deceased
> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
little. What he may have left will probably go to his widowed wife or
girlfriend with a couple of kids. NZ can handle the loss, & insurance will
fix the van.
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> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the deceased
> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
little. What he may have left will probably go to his widowed wife or
girlfriend with a couple of kids. NZ can handle the loss, & insurance will
fix the van.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:26 pm
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr. at
[email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
>
> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> wrote in message
> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
>
>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the deceased
>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
>
> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> little.
Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
[email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
>
> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> wrote in message
> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
>
>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the deceased
>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
>
> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> little.
Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:27 pm
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in article [email protected], budgie at
[email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:44 PM:
>> We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
>> knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
>> with a spouse or the dog died or.....
>
> I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
Does finding a horse's head in my bed count?
[email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:44 PM:
>> We all have stress from various sources at various times. Do we get to
>> knock off work (including in the airline industry) because we had a fight
>> with a spouse or the dog died or.....
>
> I take it you haven't personally experienced a jumper.
Does finding a horse's head in my bed count?
Mar 1st 2004, 12:28 pm
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in article [email protected] , Smiling Bob
at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:53 PM:
> Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
> wrote in
> news:BC693667.214C8%[email protected]:
>> If some bloke wants to "off" himself, and doesn't have the decency to
>> do it in private and without affecting a bunch of strangers, I have no
>> sympathy or empathy for him. I'd do the civic duty (reporting,
>> statement to the police, etc.) and that's it. And I probably would
>> want the estate to pay for any vehicular damage. As for the rest of
>> the public at large, I wouldn't prejudice my clientele by putting off
>> their matter: I'd either handle it or give it over to someone else to
>> do, without delay and without extra cost or hassle. Not the client's
>> fault I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
>> Following along: It's certainly not NZ's pax who should suffer.
>
> That's the best non sequitur I've seen all morning. You're clearly
> not a proper lawyer, but I'll bet you play one on television.
>
> Bob
"A drain on society" by your other posting. So does that mean that proper
lawyers are not drains on society, or that I am not a lawyer but a drain on
society?
Oh...I forgot...you'll just sneeringly dismiss this as a non-sequitur.
Anyway, anyone who can't handle stress shouldn't be an air travel
professional.
at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:53 PM:
> Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
> wrote in
> news:BC693667.214C8%[email protected]:
>> If some bloke wants to "off" himself, and doesn't have the decency to
>> do it in private and without affecting a bunch of strangers, I have no
>> sympathy or empathy for him. I'd do the civic duty (reporting,
>> statement to the police, etc.) and that's it. And I probably would
>> want the estate to pay for any vehicular damage. As for the rest of
>> the public at large, I wouldn't prejudice my clientele by putting off
>> their matter: I'd either handle it or give it over to someone else to
>> do, without delay and without extra cost or hassle. Not the client's
>> fault I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
>> Following along: It's certainly not NZ's pax who should suffer.
>
> That's the best non sequitur I've seen all morning. You're clearly
> not a proper lawyer, but I'll bet you play one on television.
>
> Bob
"A drain on society" by your other posting. So does that mean that proper
lawyers are not drains on society, or that I am not a lawyer but a drain on
society?
Oh...I forgot...you'll just sneeringly dismiss this as a non-sequitur.
Anyway, anyone who can't handle stress shouldn't be an air travel
professional.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:29 pm
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in article [email protected] , Smiling Bob
at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:50 PM:
> Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
> wrote in
> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]:
>> "Attorney" is an American term. I am a barrister and solicitor 8-)
>
> A rose by any other name. You're still a drain on society.
>
> Bob
The beauty of a free society, protected in some measure by the adversarial,
legal process: the right to free speech.
at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 8:50 PM:
> Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
> wrote in
> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]:
>> "Attorney" is an American term. I am a barrister and solicitor 8-)
>
> A rose by any other name. You're still a drain on society.
>
> Bob
The beauty of a free society, protected in some measure by the adversarial,
legal process: the right to free speech.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:47 pm
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
"Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
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> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr. at
> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
> >
> > "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> > wrote in message
> > news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
> >
> >> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
deceased
> >> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
> >
> > Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> > little.
> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
Contrary to belief, most people who resort to suicide, don't have much in
the first place, and they usually leave family behind that are already
struggling to feed themselves & their children. Yeah, a few rich ones jump,
but the percentage is small compared to the common person.
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> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr. at
> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
> >
> > "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> > wrote in message
> > news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
> >
> >> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
deceased
> >> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
> >
> > Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> > little.
> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
Contrary to belief, most people who resort to suicide, don't have much in
the first place, and they usually leave family behind that are already
struggling to feed themselves & their children. Yeah, a few rich ones jump,
but the percentage is small compared to the common person.
Mar 1st 2004, 12:50 pm
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:04:18 GMT, "Jim Davis Sr." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1 in a
>million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake it
>off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times, for
>hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
Yeah, I can see it in the training manual now:
"Procedures to be Followed When a Human Body Falls from the Sky onto
Cabin Crew Transport.
1. Remove body.
2. Clean windscreen thoroughly before proceeding.
3 ...."
Cheers, Alan
wrote:
>No Transportation Company can have a plan for everything. That was a 1 in a
>million shot. People who were inconvenienced by this just have to shake it
>off, and go on with their lives. I've been delayed hundreds of times, for
>hundreds of reasons. It happens. That's life.
Yeah, I can see it in the training manual now:
"Procedures to be Followed When a Human Body Falls from the Sky onto
Cabin Crew Transport.
1. Remove body.
2. Clean windscreen thoroughly before proceeding.
3 ...."
Cheers, Alan
Mar 1st 2004, 12:52 pm
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
in article [email protected] m, Jim Davis
Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:47 PM:
>
> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> wrote in message
> news:BC695D9B.21503%[email protected]...
>> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr. at
>> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
>>
>>>
>>> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
> deceased
>>>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
>>>
>>> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
>>> little.
>>
>> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
>>
> I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
They wouldn't be suing any widow or orphan. Just the estate. My whole
point, throughout, is that the pax shouldn't be bent up because of some
bloke's irresponsible actions (sane or insane). Similarly, the airline
shouldn't be out of pocket, if there's some prospect of recovery. It's a
variant of "my right to swing my fist ends at the tip of your nose."
Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:47 PM:
>
> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> wrote in message
> news:BC695D9B.21503%[email protected]...
>> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr. at
>> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
>>
>>>
>>> "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
> deceased
>>>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
>>>
>>> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
>>> little.
>>
>> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
>>
> I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
They wouldn't be suing any widow or orphan. Just the estate. My whole
point, throughout, is that the pax shouldn't be bent up because of some
bloke's irresponsible actions (sane or insane). Similarly, the airline
shouldn't be out of pocket, if there's some prospect of recovery. It's a
variant of "my right to swing my fist ends at the tip of your nose."
Mar 1st 2004, 1:23 pm
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"Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
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> in article [email protected] m, Jim Davis
> Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:47 PM:
> >
> > "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> > wrote in message
> > news:BC695D9B.21503%[email protected]...
> >> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr.
at
> >> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Raffi Balmanoukian"
<[email protected] a>
> >>> wrote in message
> >>>
news:BC68DDEF.214AE%[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
> > deceased
> >>>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
> >>>
> >>> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> >>> little.
> >>
> >> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
> >>
> > I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
> They wouldn't be suing any widow or orphan. Just the estate. My whole
> point, throughout, is that the pax shouldn't be bent up because of some
> bloke's irresponsible actions (sane or insane). Similarly, the airline
> shouldn't be out of pocket, if there's some prospect of recovery. It's a
> variant of "my right to swing my fist ends at the tip of your nose."
What I'm trying to say is that the "Estate", if any, that this guy has left
will probably not be sufficient for his surviving family to live on for the
rest of their lives. If the estate is sued, the innocent survivors will be
the ones to suffer. It's not their fault that he decided to take a header
off the bridge or building.
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> in article [email protected] m, Jim Davis
> Sr. at [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:47 PM:
> >
> > "Raffi Balmanoukian" <[email protected] a>
> > wrote in message
> > news:BC695D9B.21503%[email protected]...
> >> in article %[email protected], Jim Davis Sr.
at
> >> [email protected] wrote on 3/1/04 9:09 PM:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Raffi Balmanoukian"
<[email protected] a>
> >>> wrote in message
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>> As for suing....NZ should consider going after the estate of the
> > deceased
> >>>> for all of its damages, including the dent in the van 8-)
> >>>
> >>> Go after the Estate? Oh Gawd! The guy probably had nothing, or very
> >>> little.
> >>
> >> Not if he had insurance payable to his estate.
> >>
> > I can see the Headlines now "Air New Zealand Sues Widowed mother of 3"
> They wouldn't be suing any widow or orphan. Just the estate. My whole
> point, throughout, is that the pax shouldn't be bent up because of some
> bloke's irresponsible actions (sane or insane). Similarly, the airline
> shouldn't be out of pocket, if there's some prospect of recovery. It's a
> variant of "my right to swing my fist ends at the tip of your nose."
What I'm trying to say is that the "Estate", if any, that this guy has left
will probably not be sufficient for his surviving family to live on for the
rest of their lives. If the estate is sued, the innocent survivors will be
the ones to suffer. It's not their fault that he decided to take a header
off the bridge or building.
