macliam

Given that the rest of the statements in your original post were selective, to say the least, your conclusion id doubtful too. If you think the only way in which this virus will become less deadly is through vaccination, you are not aware of the work taking place on antibody harvesting, viral triggering and prophylactic treatment - nor that the virus may mutate to a less deadly form (since killing the host is not an effective outcome).

There is also an issue that your generalization about the impact of COVID-19 is not altogether true.... There are many exceptions to your "rule"..... those in poorer conditions fare worse, those less healthy fare worse, those where treatment is delayed fare worse ...... those "unlucky" fare worse. Every disease takes the "low hanging fruit", there is no reason to focus on that.

The likelyhood is that this virus will become endemic and our response will be tailored to those most vulnerable and according to the likely mortality. Thousands die each year from other diseases and COVID-19 will join the list. However, that is in the future, not now that we have barely advanced our knowledge, detection or treatment of the virus since lockdown commenced.

You may be fed up with restrictions, but the situation on the ground is little different to what it was in February. Whether there is never a drop to zero in infections, or there is and then a further wave commences, the threat to health systems is just the same and the outcome of them losing control would be the same. Governments know this, they also know that any recurrence will be harder to mobilise against and more damaging to the economy.... which is why baby steps are the order of the day.

dingg

I'm aware of many things
I have an interest in interferon as a prophylactic and treatment for all lung conditions.

You jump to too many conclusions about me 😎

My opinions are merely opinions, yours are different.

Cest la vie

macliam

I deal with what you show..... my statement about your awareness is prefixed with "if"

All opinions are opinions - but you chose to share yours .

Fredbargate

Back to tourism, today I received this years first advert from Pestana

dingg

My interest in interferon paid off handsomely today 😎😎😎😎😎

liveaboard

You have some investment in the company?

I read that they'd developed an atomized inhalable interferon B, and it seems to have good effects.
There was no mention of possible costs in the BBC article I read though.
Last I heard, interferon treatments were VERY expensive.

A friend of mine who couldn't pay for interferon treatment died of hepatitis.

dingg

Indeed I do



Sng is the ticker on lse

Small company but the trial that's just been unblinded was the one with the most chance of being a duck egg as the treatment was started relatively late in the progress of the disease, the result appears to be very good, the home based trials target the virus earlier and should have even better results.

A copd trial result is due to land soon too.

Its not a one trick pony.

Company has been manufacturing the drug for release for a few months now.

Why did your friend need to buy the treatment himself?

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Eta re costs, the treatment is hopefully going to be a lot cheaper than a patient ending up in an icu on a ventilator

liveaboard

My friend was uninsured, living in Asia his whole life, he was American.
He died in Thailand, another friend happened to find him just before he passed on and could be there for him.

Anyway congratulations on your stock pick; I hope it pans out into something big, for all of our sakes.

liveaboard

In Aljezur for shopping yesterday, the supermarket was packed; they seem to have forgotten about the idea of having 1 family member enter for shopping, couples with kids are all crowded in.

There were queues at the fuel stations.
Road traffic is as busy as any normal summer.

I understand there are few tourists down south, but here on the west coast it appears to be business as usual, but with masks of one sort or another.
People are acting as if it's over.
Great for the economy?
Or a health disaster in the making that will ruin the economy too?

We'll find out in a few weeks.

I understand people have to go back to work, but restaurants, bars, health clubs, and tourism seems utterly mad to me.

What happened to STAY HOME?

Aljezur has had almost no cases until now. I fear that's about to change in a big way

macliam

SWMBO has been complaining about the same thing - local supermarkets being used as "leisure areas" by those with nothing else to do.... and growing numbers of cars. She really dislikes going there.

Her birthday at the w/e was all but ruined by a load of 4X4s - she reckons at least 2 dozen - using our dirt road as a race track and throwing up clouds of dust in their wake - a neighbour was run off the road by them as they crested a hill, totally unaware of what could be on the other side. This, and the aimilar use by trail bikers, has become far more common of the past couple of years..... presumably the GNR will do something once someone is killed.