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wellinever Jan 25th 2021 9:53 pm

Thats torn it
 
So after tomorrow anyone returning from Portugal to UK will have to spend 10 days in a hotel costing them £1500....wonder if Portugal will offer to pay if it goes on for next 4 months???

chislenko Jan 25th 2021 10:31 pm

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Originally Posted by wellinever (Post 12964335)
So after tomorrow anyone returning from Portugal to UK will have to spend 10 days in a hotel costing them £1500....wonder if Portugal will offer to pay if it goes on for next 4 months???

To be honest looking at the news yesterday of a mobbed Heathrow I am left asking myself who are all these people flying during lockdown?


sportpix Jan 26th 2021 5:28 am

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Originally Posted by wellinever (Post 12964335)
So after tomorrow anyone returning from Portugal to UK will have to spend 10 days in a hotel costing them £1500....wonder if Portugal will offer to pay if it goes on for next 4 months???

Currently watching Sky News and they are saying ‘some’ people will have to do hotel quarantine. This was the case in HK a few months back but the government decided to make it mandatory for almost everyone, flight crews and government ministers being the exception. Flight crews are now on the list for hotel quarantine as airlines were not playing by the rules.

barlaventoexpert Jan 26th 2021 7:40 am

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Why should Portugal pay?

suiko Jan 26th 2021 7:59 am

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No surprises there.

As always, Britain's rogue government and its policies designed exclusively to secure the right media soundbites rather than for public health. That way they can play to the gallery and relax the lockdown in a couple of weeks.

robbie20 Jan 26th 2021 8:01 am

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I don't understand what you mean by, "Why should Portugal pay ?"

barlaventoexpert Jan 26th 2021 8:06 am

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See the first post by welli never in this thread...

"..wonder if Portugal will offer to pay if it goes on for next 4 months???"

toots sweet Jan 26th 2021 8:51 am

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The UK government ought to be brought to account for what is happening there. And sort what is happening at the airports.
We need to return to the UK in the next couple of months. We would get off the ferry(in our car) and return home(without stopping). Now they want us to pay X amount to stay in some hotel at our expense(subsiding vacant hotel space) where we would be in contact with anybody and everyone having to eat food served by who knows who. Staff entering your room, perhaps infected. No exercise. We are safer at home where we will confine ourselves as we have done for the last 10 months bar our journey here. You must be allowed home. Just need a daily check to see you are there. I'd even wear an ankle gadget to check where I am, just like the prisoners we'd be, sitting in some dubious hotel.
As for Heathrow..... what are the staff there doing? Nothing by the look of it. The airport has responsibilities too. There should be fines if they are ignoring what is happening there. It doesn't take much organisation to keep people a short distance from each other surely.Just let them through in small groups not like a cattle stampede through the gates.

sportpix Jan 26th 2021 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by toots sweet (Post 12964471)
Staff entering your room, perhaps infected. No exercise. We are safer at home where we will confine ourselves as we have done for the last 10 months bar our journey here. You must be allowed home. I'd even wear an ankle gadget to check where I am, just like the prisoners we'd be, sitting in some dubious hotel.

Actually the staff leave your food outside your hotel room door. That’s the least of your problems, lack of exercise is absolute torture, as is the total confinement in a very small space. I think there will be serious repercussions to this when this wretched virus is eventually beaten as the mental effect on many people will be too bitch to bare. I was in home isolation and I thought it would be easy as I have a three storey house and a roof garden. But it was torture. I had to wear a tracking bracelet and every two or three days I would get a phone call to confirm I was home. This was miles better than expensive hotel confinement, which will doubtless drive some people to end it all. And to make matters worse the useless HK government extended the hotel quarantine from two weeks to three weeks. Most people are convinced they only brought this in to help the hotel industry, which had tens of thousands of empty rooms

suiko Jan 26th 2021 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by toots sweet (Post 12964471)
The UK government ought to be brought to account for what is happening there. And sort what is happening at the airports.
We need to return to the UK in the next couple of months. We would get off the ferry(in our car) and return home(without stopping). Now they want us to pay X amount to stay in some hotel at our expense(subsiding vacant hotel space) where we would be in contact with anybody and everyone having to eat food served by who knows who. Staff entering your room, perhaps infected. No exercise. We are safer at home where we will confine ourselves as we have done for the last 10 months bar our journey here. You must be allowed home. Just need a daily check to see you are there. I'd even wear an ankle gadget to check where I am, just like the prisoners we'd be, sitting in some dubious hotel.
As for Heathrow..... what are the staff there doing? Nothing by the look of it. The airport has responsibilities too. There should be fines if they are ignoring what is happening there. It doesn't take much organisation to keep people a short distance from each other surely.Just let them through in small groups not like a cattle stampede through the gates.

The current UK government is a rogue government.

Cynical government by scam, motivated entirely by the desire for good headlines in the tame Press and with zero concern for public health. No doubt they think coming down hard at the borders will enable them to relax the lockdown in UK too soon and win some cheap good press.

What can we expect?

Lou71 Jan 27th 2021 6:48 pm

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Originally Posted by suiko (Post 12964708)
The current UK government is a rogue government.

Cynical government by scam, motivated entirely by the desire for good headlines in the tame Press and with zero concern for public health. No doubt they think coming down hard at the borders will enable them to relax the lockdown in UK too soon and win some cheap good press.

What can we expect?

Spot on.

tom99 Jan 27th 2021 8:39 pm

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Thats definatley torn it pt is the only country in the eu on the hit list

chislenko Jan 27th 2021 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Lou71 (Post 12965064)
Spot on.


Originally Posted by tom99 (Post 12965094)
Thats definatley torn it pt is the only country in the eu on the hit list

I think it's the Brazilian connection (the people not the "intimate hairdo" 😀

robbie20 Jan 27th 2021 10:00 pm

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Definitely the Brazilian connection, this was made clear by our dreadful government here in the UK.

Shanorme Jan 28th 2021 8:22 am

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Definitely the Brazilian link. This was our experience: We got back from Portugal (Faro to Bristol) on the 10th of January. Drove home to Wales and self isolated for 10 days. On the evening of day 10, we received a call from Public Health Wales saying that they understand we are back from Portugal and that we could get a Covid 19 test on day 7, we explained, we were already on Day 10. The lady then said she thinks that PHW might want us tested and that she'd speak to her supervisor and call us back. Half an hour later, she rings back and says her supervisor has referred it up to the 'Director' of PHW and could we please isolate until we are called back the next morning. I said fine. The next morning we get another call saying they definitely want us tested, which I agreed to (not that I think I had much choice). This meant our isolation was to be extended until we received a 'negative result'. She asked if we could drive, which of course we can BUT my car's MOT had expired whilst we were in Portugal (flight cancellation & rebooking to blame) and Mr Shan's MOT had expired a few days into our self isolation, so, we couldn't take the cars for their MOT.... so they sent out a team to test us that afternoon. Results came 48 hours later: Negative. Apparently, they were testing us because of the presence of the Brazilian variety and Brazil's links to Portugal. I would have thought they would have been better off testing for antibodies to see if we had had it. Through the whole debacle we both stated we were both in good health with no symptoms.


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