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deecee Feb 7th 2018 1:11 am

Tax Exemption
 
Can anyone out there recommend a tax adviser who can help with my application for tax exemption under Portugals NHR tax regulations.
I originally had advice from Tony Jesus who I contacted after reading a post on this site, but he has'nt responded to my recent attempts to contact him.
My application has been ongoing for about 10 months now, and I seem to be going around in circles.

Ukkram Feb 7th 2018 7:03 am

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Tony Jesus left many people in the lurch. I am still suffering the consequences of using him as my accountant. He has cost me so much money that I can sue him but I have no resources left to do so. He is a delinquent accountant.

Doing your own NHR is simple and there is a post that details on how to do it. No doubt someone will re post it.

deecee Feb 7th 2018 10:51 pm

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Tony started the process of applying for the tax exemption, saying it should be quite straightforward, it's been anything but. 10 months on and the Lisbon tax office are still demanding confirmation that I was a UK tax payer up until 2016, I have asked for and received these documents from HMRC, but Lisbon reject them, for why I know not, and Tony has done a runner. I'm hoping someone out there has been through the process and can recommend a tax adviser that can help.

EMR Feb 7th 2018 11:41 pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 12437589)
Tony started the process of applying for the tax exemption, saying it should be quite straightforward, it's been anything but. 10 months on and the Lisbon tax office are still demanding confirmation that I was a UK tax payer up until 2016, I have asked for and received these documents from HMRC, but Lisbon reject them, for why I know not, and Tony has done a runner. I'm hoping someone out there has been through the process and can recommend a tax adviser that can help.

I recall at the time when he was very active on here touting for business every question was met with " that's not a problem " approach.

Mac and Mabel Feb 8th 2018 1:05 am

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Application is now simple to do yourself through the AT/Finanças portal website but first you must be registered to use it, which you can request via the website portaldasfinancas.gov.pt if you're not already. The password allocated will be sent by post to the address they hold for you, so make sure that's up to date first. Infact, make sure all of the details they hold for you are current before you apply for NHR via the portal because as part of the application you will confirm the details are correct. Then just a tick box to confirm you've not been PT tax resident in any of the previous 5 years. How that will work in your case though, I don't know, as it sounds like there's been a delay since starting and you have to apply by 31st Marchin the year following the year in which you became tax resident, and if you start again online, I doubt it would be considered a continuation of your already open application.

Do a search on here for more details of where to go on the portal for applying. It has been discussed in depth more than once in the past year or so. Good luck.

deecee Feb 8th 2018 1:33 am

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My application was lodged by Tony in mid March 2017, since he disappeared from the scene I have been corresponding with them by post, so I have to assume that Tony has the password you refer to. Language translation a great difficulty, time for turnaround post from UK HMRC unbelievably slow, deadlines set by Lisbon tax office unrealistic in light of Portuguese slowmail. Absolutely nothing Simple in my experience.

Ukkram Feb 8th 2018 6:17 am

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No doubt this will be deleted. I have been through many accountants in Portugal and by now know the extravagant fees they charge.

I have been very happy with my new accountant and she goes out of her way to help me and she gets personally involved in a friendly way. Her charges for tax and NHR is very much lower than most.

RichardHenshall Feb 8th 2018 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 12437682)
... I have been corresponding with them by post, so I have to assume that Tony has the password you refer to. ...

I assume from this that you live at the address that is known to AT/Finanças. If so, you can either register (in case you haven't already) or recover the password as described here.

liveaboard Feb 8th 2018 9:51 am

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Or Eurofinesco.
They did good for me.

deecee Feb 8th 2018 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12437873)
No doubt this will be deleted. I have been through many accountants in Portugal and by now know the extravagant fees they charge.

I have been very happy with my new accountant and she goes out of her way to help me and she gets personally involved in a friendly way. Her charges for tax and NHR is very much lower than most.

You were right, the individuals details have been removed, perhaps you could send them to me by PM.

deecee Feb 8th 2018 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by liveaboard (Post 12438029)
Or Eurofinesco.
They did good for me.

Thank you I have sent them my details and await a response.

chislenko Feb 9th 2018 10:34 am

Re: Tax Exemption
 
With regard to your UK tax evidence if you register on the UK gov tax site all back dated info is on there for you to print off so you don't need to wait for them to post out saving you some time.

deecee Feb 9th 2018 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by chislenko (Post 12438786)
With regard to your UK tax evidence if you register on the UK gov tax site all back dated info is on there for you to print off so you don't need to wait for them to post out saving you some time.

So far the Lisbon tax office will only accept documents with HMRC stamp applied. Now they want them" Legalised" as well, which means the documents must be returned to the UK, along with my application form for same, which has to be downloaded from the HMRC internet site, and a fee paid for this service. All this within given time limits. Who ever said this process was simple?

Ukkram Feb 9th 2018 9:00 pm

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How is a document "legalized"? As far as I know one can only Apostille public documents and not private documents.

deecee Feb 9th 2018 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12438951)
How is a document "legalized"? As far as I know one can only Apostille public documents and not private documents.

The documents concerned are issued by HMRC titled "Certificate of UK Fiscal Residency" On the covering letter received from HMRC it states that "overseas fiscal authority may need the document to be legalised. For more information go to WWW.GOV.UK/GET-DOCUMENT-LEGALISED"


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