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Red Eric Sep 18th 2017 8:45 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by robbie20 (Post 12340901)
Ryanair have now put a list of cancelled flights on their website.

That's good of them :rolleyes:

According to the PT consumer organisation DECO, though, the company is guilty of notifying clients of only some of the compensation available under these circumstances.

macliam Sep 18th 2017 10:53 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12340948)
That's good of them :rolleyes:

According to the PT consumer organisation DECO, though, the company is guilty of notifying clients of only some of the compensation available under these circumstances.

My flights seem to be OK. :thumb:

I watched O'Leary's interview on the Beeb (Ryanair publishes full list of cancellations - BBC News). I wouldn't call him contrite, but probably as close as he gets. I don't know what compensation DECO thinks is due - but he said there would be alternate flights offered or a refund and compensation. My only "concerns" were that he didn't explicitly say the alternate travel could be offered with other airlines and he said this was for those impacted over the next 2 weeks......

macliam Sep 19th 2017 9:21 am

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 12341032)
My flights seem to be OK. :thumb:

I watched O'Leary's interview on the Beeb (Ryanair publishes full list of cancellations - BBC News). I wouldn't call him contrite, but probably as close as he gets. I don't know what compensation DECO thinks is due - but he said there would be alternate flights offered or a refund and compensation. My only "concerns" were that he didn't explicitly say the alternate travel could be offered with other airlines and he said this was for those impacted over the next 2 weeks......

Sorry about quoting my own post :o - however, things are now a bit clearer (for me, anyway)

Ryanair have published a list of the flights affected in this fiasco. https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/useful...cancellations7

However, it appears that Ryanair say they will NOT arrange flights on other airlines, because "It is not part of the EU261 entitlement" and compensation only applies to flights cancelled with less than 15 days warning - so affected passengers will be stuck if Ryanair has no alternate flight to offer or if they have flights over 14 days away which are cancelled ...... anyone without travel insurance might still be on a sticky wicket.....:eek:

Luckily (so far) my flights are not on the list :fingerscrossed:

robbie20 Sep 19th 2017 9:27 am

Re: Ryanair flights
 
That list is the full list of affected flights, so if as you say your flights are not on the list, then you will not be having a cancelled flight. I am happy to say my flights also are not on the list.

macliam Sep 19th 2017 9:48 am

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by robbie20 (Post 12341260)
That list is the full list of affected flights, so if as you say your flights are not on the list, then you will not be having a cancelled flight. I am happy to say my flights also are not on the list.

UK flights to Faro and VV seem to have escaped fairly lightly, though Lisbon and Porto are affected.

But if you are affected and Ryanair flights to/from your destination are infrequent or your flight is more than 14 days away, I think you'd feel more than a little miffed.

Ingles Sep 21st 2017 9:57 am

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And it look's as if it's getting worse !

https://www.theguardian.com/business...rk-on-days-off

macliam Sep 21st 2017 11:28 am

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by Ingles (Post 12343107)
And it look's as if it's getting worse !

https://www.theguardian.com/business...rk-on-days-off

A cock-up by the company being exploited by well-paid pilots who know they have leverage..... who'd have thought?:huh:

007Steve Sep 23rd 2017 8:05 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 12343162)
A cock-up by the company being exploited by well-paid pilots who know they have leverage..... who'd have thought?:huh:

'Wot? Sym-PATHY for the downtrodden airline Guv?
Thought U was one of Thatcher's wealth-trickles-down-to-the-idle-poor & market-forces rules all Guv'nors,.... Guv'nor

Loafing Along Sep 23rd 2017 8:47 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 12343162)
A cock-up by the company being exploited by well-paid pilots who know they have leverage..... who'd have thought?:huh:

Not well-paid that's why companies like Norwegian can steal 150 of them and that contributes to the chaos. Everyone knows the story of the Ryanair pilot who had to buy water onboard because they are not allowed to take any liquids with them when they board..

macliam Sep 23rd 2017 9:52 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by 007Steve (Post 12344905)
'Wot? Sym-PATHY for the downtrodden airline Guv?
Thought U was one of Thatcher's wealth-trickles-down-to-the-idle-poor & market-forces rules all Guv'nors,.... Guv'nor

Eh? I think you have me mistook for another. :huh:

Originally Posted by Loafing Along (Post 12344921)
Not well-paid that's why companies like Norwegian can steal 150 of them and that contributes to the chaos. Everyone knows the story of the Ryanair pilot who had to buy water onboard because they are not allowed to take any liquids with them when they board..

I disagree, aircraft captains and first officers are well paid - the second highest-paid profession in the UK, whatever the airline. Another airline can always offer more money, or a more attractive package, but that doesn't mean they're not well paid in the first place.
Ryanair enforce very fast turnarounds and this puts he crew under greater pressure - and it seems to be contractual clauses, not pay, that are the root of any dissatisfaction. The current crisis gives them the opportunity to squeeze the company without having to walk.

I've no sympathy for the company in this - just pointing out that the nice man up front is also contributing to the problems faced by passengers ....

rayandsarah Sep 23rd 2017 10:05 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 
Hi Guys

Anybody affected i feel sorry for, but we have five flights over the next three weeks and none are cancelled how lucky are we.

Ray

chislenko Sep 23rd 2017 10:23 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by rayandsarah (Post 12344952)
Hi Guys

Anybody affected i feel sorry for, but we have five flights over the next three weeks and none are cancelled how lucky are we.

Ray

Yet!

EMR Sep 24th 2017 7:04 am

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by chislenko (Post 12344959)
Yet!

98% chance that they will not be cancelled.
Never let reality get in the way of a bit of hysteria.
The media loves a bogeyman and Oleary is one of their favourites.
Who and how many boycotted BA after the latest of its many fiascos.
BA an airline that having seen the profitability of EJ and Ryan air is rapidly changing its product to match theirs.
A pattern that can be seen increasing across the world of airlines.

chislenko Sep 27th 2017 1:25 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12345054)
98% chance that they will not be cancelled.
Never let reality get in the way of a bit of hysteria.
The media loves a bogeyman and Oleary is one of their favourites.
Who and how many boycotted BA after the latest of its many fiascos.
BA an airline that having seen the profitability of EJ and Ryan air is rapidly changing its product to match theirs.
A pattern that can be seen increasing across the world of airlines.

A further 18000 flights cancelled, as I said YET!

https://www.theguardian.com/business...sted-edinburgh

EMR Sep 27th 2017 6:39 pm

Re: Ryanair flights
 

Originally Posted by chislenko (Post 12347943)
A further 18000 flights cancelled, as I said YET!

https://www.theguardian.com/business...sted-edinburgh

Still only a small % of the total.Its a mess a cockup but not the end of the world.


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