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Old Jul 18th 2020, 4:00 pm
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Hi,
Am doing a quick tour of Portugal in a few weeks, and looking to get a rental in time for Brexit. One of the nice aspects I find of European life is that you spend more time outdoors generally due to the good weather, and there's more stuff to do - like street cafes, outdoor concerts, outdoor cinemas, car-boots etc. Could anyone recommend places in Portugal that have are good for this. I imagine Lisbon and Porto are the obvious ones, but I'd prefer somewhere slightly less crowded / built up.

I'm looking at are Coimbra and Braga (might be a bit quiet), but are there any other suggestions where they have a lively outdoorsy scene?
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Old Jul 18th 2020, 5:06 pm
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Evora is good and you'll find the Algarve does a lot of outside stuff too.
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Old Jul 19th 2020, 9:57 am
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Cascais? and near enough to Lisbon, but apparently quite expensive for housing/lifestyle.
Most of the larger towns on the Algarve, or look a little inland and go into town of an evening or for events?
Also depends on the kind of climate you are looking for - can still get hot in the Centre during 2 months of summer - Lisbon and Coimbra - but much cooler and wetter though still nice in other seasons in general. The Algarve.hot but with sea influence in summer, hot in spring and autumn usually, little rain, cooler winters... The North eg Braga, Viana d C etc are downright wet and chilly in winter but nice in summer.
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Thanks for the detailed reply. Good point about the weather though. Maybe I'll stay central Portugal then, Cascais looks nice but I'm worried it'll be too expensive accomodation and eating out, but I'll check out prices.
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Portugal doesn't really do car boots. Outdoor cinemas... never seen one but maybe you might find one in tourist centres in summer.In fact cinemas in general are scarce. You tend to find them in shopping malls.
Have a look at Setubal, a smaller city than Lisbon/Porto.You are within reasonable reach of Lisbon if needed. On the coast,plenty of restaurants. I you want a beach resort look at Sesimbra.Probably not as expensive as Cascais.
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cheers. I'll have a look round Setubal as well.
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Car boot sales are an English phenomenon.
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They do car boot sales in Algarve and I have never heard of open air / drive in cinemas here.

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Originally Posted by dave9999
Hi,
Am doing a quick tour of Portugal in a few weeks, and looking to get a rental in time for Brexit. One of the nice aspects I find of European life is that you spend more time outdoors generally due to the good weather, and there's more stuff to do - like street cafes, outdoor concerts, outdoor cinemas, car-boots etc. Could anyone recommend places in Portugal that have are good for this. I imagine Lisbon and Porto are the obvious ones, but I'd prefer somewhere slightly less crowded / built up.

I'm looking at are Coimbra and Braga (might be a bit quiet), but are there any other suggestions where they have a lively outdoorsy scene?
thanks
One should note that getting a rental alone does not make you a permanent resident. As an EU Citizen, you still have to meet the income/health requirements to be able to live in Portugal
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...s/index_en.htm
Like Spain, you would probably have to focus on more touristic areas that have lots of outdoor events during summer but I wouldn't know many places that have outdoor cinemas all year round (Only a few weeks).
Many places can also turn quiet during winter, unless it's actually a larger town with other employment opportunities.
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Car boot sales are an English phenomenon.
Don't they have them in the rest of the UK then?
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One should note that getting a rental alone does not make you a permanent resident. As an EU Citizen, you still have to meet the income/health requirements to be able to live in Portugal
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...s/index_en.htm
Getting a rental is perfectly sufficient to establish initial residency but yes, the applicant for a registration certificate may need to explain how he will be supporting himself or declare that he has sufficient means.

In Portugal prior to the end of the transition period, UK citizens are able to enrol in the public health system once they have registered their presence and have been issued a certificate. They do not, at any stage, need private health insurance.
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Getting a rental is perfectly sufficient to establish initial residency but yes, the applicant for a registration certificate may need to explain how he will be supporting himself or declare that he has sufficient means.

In Portugal prior to the end of the transition period, UK citizens are able to enrol in the public health system once they have registered their presence and have been issued a certificate. They do not, at any stage, need private health insurance.
All I'm saying is that a rental alone does not give you the right of residence. If your permanent residence is still in the UK and you just come over to Portugal to secure a rental and go back to the UK, you're not really a legal resident. Then this could also be the case: Currently, because of the agreement Portugal has with the UK there is no need for UK citizens to have a private health insurance policy but be aware that this may change after Brexit. If you come from an EU country that asks Portuguese migrants to have a health insurance policy, then you too will require this and provide proof.
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All I'm saying is that a rental alone does not give you the right of residence. If your permanent residence is still in the UK and you just come over to Portugal to secure a rental and go back to the UK, you're not really a legal resident.
Agreed.

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Then this could also be the case: Currently, because of the agreement Portugal has with the UK there is no need for UK citizens to have a private health insurance policy but be aware that this may change after Brexit.

It won't change for people who have registered their residence prior to the end of the transition period, provided they remain continuously resident


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If you come from an EU country that asks Portuguese migrants to have a health insurance policy, then you too will require this and provide proof.
That is - at least in theory - the current situation. Whether it applies to any other EU member state nationals or whether it's actually applied in practice if so, I don't know. But it doesn't apply to UK nationals resident before or during the transition period.

After the transition period ends, it's all change with UK citizens presumably being treated as third country citizens, unless some bilateral accord is struck.
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After the transition period ends, it's all change with UK citizens presumably being treated as third country citizens, unless some bilateral accord is struck.
Luckily the D7 Visa will still be an option and the income requirements are not that high:

Your Application will consist of the following documents.

1. Application form (available on SEF's website);

2. Passport or another valid travel document;

3. Two identical passport-approved photos;

4. Evidence of adequate travel insurance, with coverage for all medical expenses including urgent medical assistance and possible repatriation.

5. Criminal background check by SEF.

6. Certificate of criminal records issued by the country of origin (or any state where the applicant resided for more than one year).

7. Evidence of adequate accommodation.

8. Evidence of health insurance coverage.

9. Evidence of annual household income.

10. Income or pensions that, for 12 months, amount to no less than €7.200 for the first adult, €3.600 for subsequent adults; and €2.160 per child.

11. Six-months; of bank statements.
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