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Loafing Along Oct 13th 2018 10:00 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by free.ekanayaka (Post 12576962)
Hello Loafing Along,

so does it mean that the information from the blog post on NHR at tax-free.today is incorrect? Quoting from there:



(sorry can't post the exact URL since I haven't published 5 messages on this board yet)

Cheers

This is the article you are refering to : https://tax-free.today/blog/nhr-residency-in-portugal/ and the paragraph :
"Portugal is one of the few countries in the world where you can maintain fiscal residence without having to spend a minimum of 6 months there.
In other words, you do not really have to live there, you simply have to rent or own a home."


I do not know the full detail of the Portuguese Tax office definition of resident.. Maybe owning a property is enough..

free.ekanayaka Oct 13th 2018 10:05 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
As far as I understand it, as long as you don't do something that would make it possible for another country to claim that you are tax resident there (e.g. spend more than 6 months there), Portugal itself will still consider you tax-resident under the NHR regime even if you don't spend 183 days in Portugal.

However, this information comes from the web sites I looked at, I still have to find an official Portuguese sources/laws.

Loafing Along Oct 13th 2018 10:12 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by free.ekanayaka (Post 12576969)
As far as I understand it, as long as you don't do something that would make it possible for another country to claim that you are tax resident there (e.g. spend more than 6 months there), Portugal itself will still consider you tax-resident under the NHR regime even if you don't spend 183 days in Portugal.

However, this information comes from the web sites I looked at, I still have to find an official Portuguese sources/laws.

It all hinges on a particular section of the Portuguese Tax laws ( Codigo do IRS ) - Article 16 . Paragrapghs 1 & 2 define residency .
Para 1 refers to being the country more than 183 days during the calendar year.
Para 2 refers to the fact that you may be in the country for less than the 183 days but do have available and maintain a residence base there in such conditions that would make it possible to live in it/ be resident there.

free.ekanayaka Oct 13th 2018 10:21 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
Thanks for the pointer. And this requirement for residency is indeed pretty much in line with regulations in other (EU) countries, which to my knowledge are more or less the same.

alannah85 Feb 11th 2019 2:28 pm

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by AliceCaroline (Post 12576636)
Hello jojotugger
Who are you asking?
I'll private message you the details of the account we are using.

AliceCaroline could you pm me the accountant details also?
Thanks

AliceCaroline Feb 12th 2019 10:59 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by alannah85 (Post 12635585)
AliceCaroline could you pm me the accountant details also?
Thanks


Done.

borisface Feb 19th 2019 8:37 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
Just to say that I applied for NHR status yesterday afternoon and when I checked my tax account this morning the status had already been granted.

KVpt Feb 20th 2019 8:08 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
@AliceCaroline
Could you pm me your accountant details also?

Thanks so much.

andydoc1 May 7th 2019 9:47 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by ricko (Post 12501617)
The information given looks very useful,
As regards needing to be able to read Portuguese, would using Google Translate be enough to use the website?

It was good enough for me

Barbara77 May 8th 2019 11:40 pm

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
Hi. I also just applied for NHR at the Portal (only stating the year and last country of residence). Now I logged in and the PDF says "deferido". Does that mean granted, or deferred , so that it is still being looked at?

andydoc1 May 9th 2019 4:54 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
It means deferred, and without another message or request for info it means it is still being looked at, as far as what I gleaned from others on different sites... mine is the same from nearly 2 weeks ago

Red Eric May 9th 2019 6:49 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by Barbara77 (Post 12681225)
Now I logged in and the PDF says "deferido". Does that mean granted, or deferred...


Originally Posted by andydoc1 (Post 12681299)
It means deferred, and without another message or request for info it means it is still being looked at, as far as what I gleaned from others on different sites... mine is the same from nearly 2 weeks ago

:eek: You don't want to go believing everything you read on the internet.

Not even Google Translate ;)

Here, try this :

deferido
masc. sing. part. pass. de deferir

de·fe·rir - Conjugar
(latim defero, -ferre, trazer de um lugar para outro mais baixo, trazer, levar, abater)

verbo transitivo
1. Despachar favoravelmente.
2. Conceder (o pedido).
"deferido", in Dicionário Priberam da Língua Portuguesa.

( 1)Resolve favourably 2)grant the request)

andydoc1 May 9th 2019 7:21 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
Wow! Yes you are right. Because I got that response so soon - less than 48hrs, and it was the first response I got, I assumed the other sources were right! So I, and Barbara, are happily successful.

AliceCaroline May 9th 2019 9:24 am

Re: NHR application without accountant
 

Originally Posted by andydoc1 (Post 12681351)
Wow! Yes you are right. Because I got that response so soon - less than 48hrs, and it was the first response I got, I assumed the other sources were right! So I, and Barbara, are happily successful.

Shows that people don't read through the whole thread. Posts #29 and #30 covered this. I know because I posted #29 :o

Never trust Google Translate.

mafra_mafia May 9th 2019 4:57 pm

Re: NHR application without accountant
 
Does everyone recommend using a specialist accountant/tax advisor to apply for the reduced 20% tax rate? I'm comfortable doing the NHR application myself but not really sure what is required to apply for the 20% tax rate policy and if that is best left to a local expert?

PS: I'm a director of a UK limited company but working from Portugal.

Thanks in advance!


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