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Old Jan 11th 2021, 7:04 pm
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Saw it mentioned in the Portugal Resident; supposedly the details will be announced tomorrow (Tuesday).

Apparently there was one last weekend too, but I didn't know that at the time.

SMS notifications would be nice; or maybe Afpop could send out notices to us lingually challenged people...
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Are cases rising there a lot there then? We're in the second week of full lockdown here with hints that it could get tighter as people are not following the guidlines. I don't think we could get much tighter here. It's a nightmare and very scary.
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Saw it mentioned in the Portugal Resident; supposedly the details will be announced tomorrow (Tuesday).

Apparently there was one last weekend too, but I didn't know that at the time.

SMS notifications would be nice; or maybe Afpop could send out notices to us lingually challenged people...
Best English briefing you will find on : https://www.safecommunitiesportugal....rus-2019-ncov/
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Are cases rising there a lot there then?
YES.

We had the biggest peak ever, and then cases were declining since mid December. But since new year there's been another spike, and now hospitalizations are at a new all time high and so is intensive care.
The daily new case numbers make nice headlines, they go up and down a lot and are hard to follow. I think the hospitalization numbers are a more reliable metric.

UK has 30,500 patients in hospital with covid, we have nearly 4,000. Adjusted for the population, the UK is doing worse, but not by much.

Some people still take it seriously, others seem to have become blasé about it. Like if it happens it happens.

Portugal has had around 8,000 deaths so far. That would be equal to 52,000 in the UK, but the UK has has 82,000 deaths to date.

I think if everyone would wear masks, wash their hands, and keep "social distance", these lockdowns would not be necessary.
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Portugal Resident reports the lockdown will last 1 month, starting and including Thursday 14 January.
Details of the restrictions have yet to be announced.
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Originally Posted by liveaboard
YES.

We had the biggest peak ever, and then cases were declining since mid December. But since new year there's been another spike, and now hospitalizations are at a new all time high and so is intensive care.
The daily new case numbers make nice headlines, they go up and down a lot and are hard to follow. I think the hospitalization numbers are a more reliable metric.

UK has 30,500 patients in hospital with covid, we have nearly 4,000. Adjusted for the population, the UK is doing worse, but not by much.

Some people still take it seriously, others seem to have become blasé about it. Like if it happens it happens.

Portugal has had around 8,000 deaths so far. That would be equal to 52,000 in the UK, but the UK has has 82,000 deaths to date.

I think if everyone would wear masks, wash their hands, and keep "social distance", these lockdowns would not be necessary.
But humans are humans...
I think it might be a bit easier to control the virus in Portugal as the population isn't has big and up to last month, it was like mid- September here when people could be outdoors more. So many people here don't agree with lockdowns and others think the virus is a hoax so they just don't bother. I've heard of late night parties in London, plus gambling groups in basements. I just stay away from people, I don't want it. I like to run and apart from dying, long covid sounds horrendous.
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Xmas and New Year came at the wrong time. Restrictions shouldn't have been eased(IMO).
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Xmas and New Year came at the wrong time. Restrictions shouldn't have been eased(IMO).
The vaccine also came a month too late in light of this variant.
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The lockdown is in force; I found news about it, some writing of the differences to the last lockdown.

But can anyone post a clear concise list of the current rules?

Meanwhile, the stats page from the PT health ministry is significantly more dire than ever.

https://covid19.min-saude.pt/ponto-d...l-em-portugal/
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Thanks, but what are "authorized journeys?"

I guess I can go shopping [locally] and some other 'authorized' things like before.
Guessing is not really so great.
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Exceptions to stay-at-home general rule :

Acquisition of essential goods and services
To access public services (by prior appointment only)
For work, when teleworking is not possible
For health treatment, transporting of someone else for that purpose and for blood donations
Emergency shelter or providing assistence to victims of domestic violence, human traficking and children at risk
Assisting vulnerable persons, such as the homeless, people with deficiencies, children, parents, elderly persons etc
Children and accompanants, students going to creche, school etc
For training, taking tests or exams and for inspections
Elite sportspersons for training and competition
Participating in religious ceremonies
Brief excursions in one's area of residence for the purposes of fresh air and exercise or exercising pets
Vets, for purposes of treating animals and animal owners for the purposes of visiting vets
Volunteers at animal shelters
Frequenting centres of occupational activity for people with deficiencies
Visiting occupants of residential facilities for elderly or disabled persons
Entering or leaving the country
Volunteers in social assistence
Assisting people who are incapacitated or in obligatory isolation
Fulfilling official functions of diplomatic or consular missions or international organisations located in Portugal
Partaking in campaigning or exercising the right to vote in the Presidential elections on 24th Jan
Accessing postal services, financial institutions and insurance agents
Exercising freedom of the press
Duly justified analogous activities or unforeseen circumstances of an imperative nature
Returning home from any of the above-mentioned.





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Originally Posted by liveaboard
Thanks, but what are "authorized journeys?"

I guess I can go shopping [locally] and some other 'authorized' things like before.
Guessing is not really so great.
Go to the Safe Communities Portugal website and sign up for updates by email or on their Facebook page. It's all there like it has been for a year or so. Some things are controversial however such as golf courses and tennis clubs which are open. Lots of comments from followers.
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I was on their website but didn't find the list above.
Seems to cover most things I ever go out for...

Today's numbers are astounding; almost 11,000 new cases in 1 day, in a country of 10.5 million.
That means 1 out of 1,000 residents of Portugal was infected IN A SINGLE DAY! And those were only the ones detected + registered.
At this rate, most of the country will have been infected before vaccination.

There are nearly 5,000 people in hospital with covid. 1 out of every 2,000 residents.
So; don't forget to clean your hands, folks.
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