mxmx

Hi Everybody,

Does anyone know of a reputable, cost effective, fiscal representative in Portugal?

Moved outside of the EU and my understanding is that I now need to designate a fiscal representative since I happen to have a Portuguese NINo number (NIF)...

Not a tax resident in Portugal nor do I have any income/property but don't have any family in the country that I could entrust with those responsibilities.

I went through some older threads in the forum and looked at the companies recommended but their annual fees are now over 300 euros a year which in my case feels like a lot of money.

Looking ideally for something in the 100-200 euro range and if anyone could recommend someone they've had a good experience with I would really appreciate it! I speak Portuguese so language is not a barrier

Thanks

Mac and Mabel

If you're not tax resident and don't own property in PT, what responsibilities do you think you have requiring of a fiscal representative?

bejaboz

We were non residents for nearly ten years and never used a fiscal representative, total waste of money when all they do is pay your bills and as Mac and Mabel have said. it doesn't sound like you need one anyway.

mxmx

Thanks for the replies.

I agree with you that it doesn't seem to make sense for me to appoint one given that I don't have any tax matters to answer to.

With that said, after registering with the consulate following my exit from the EU I received a letter from the tax people (Autoridade Tributaria) informing me that it is the law that all citizens with a NIF living outside of the EU are required to appoint a fiscal representative in Portugal.

I wrote to them and explained my situation ( I wanted to see if I could cancel my NIF or perhaps be excused from that requirement ) but no luck.

So my options right now are to either ignore it (which could potentially lead to, I believe, a 750 EUR fine plus having to appoint a fiscal representative anyways), hire a lawyer in Portugal to look into canceling my NIF ( potentially a long and costly process ) or find a cheap fiscal representative.

I'm exploring all avenues and thought I would ask here to see if anyone knows of a fiscal representative that is cost-effective and hasn't given them any headaches.

Mac and Mabel

Have pm-ed you.

mxmx

Thanks Mac and Mabel.

mxmx

Looks like I need at least 4 posts to be able to see the message so here it goes

lapper

Hello,

pm sent.

Kind regards,
Louis

riv

So can anyone state definitively whether it is the case that someone owning a house in Portugal BUT not being resident - just visiting for hols less than 6 months total in the year - IS or is not required by law to have a Fiscal Rep ?

If it is not a legal requirement can someone please set out exactly what they do ?

If you own a property and have an NIF does this mean you MUST send in a tax return each year ? If so I think i wd prefer to have a Fiscal Rep. do it for me, but I would much appreciate learning what the legal position is.
Thanks.

Red Eric

If you're resident in another EU member state you are not required to appoint a fiscal rep.

If you're not resident in Portugal and you don't have any income arising in Portugal, you do not file a tax return.

If you own a property under the above circumstances then all you need do is pay the annual tax. You can do this yourself from abroad provided you have a PT bank account and online access to your account with Finanças.

lapper

PM-ed you, riv.

KR

Red Eric

Not information you'd like to share with the rest of the forum?

Hmm - I wonder why that is

riv

This is useful ( and a relief ) to know.

By 'pay the tax' - I take it you mean the IMI - equivalent of local council tax ?
Do you know if the Ca^mara will arrange to send the demand to an address in uk ? It's a once a year thing so I suppose if one knows when to expect it it can be a peg on which to hang a visit ( and / or just pay with an international bank transfer ).

Thanks again.

riv

ON another site I did read that if you have an NIF you DO have to make a tax return ( even if it's a nil income in Portugal one ).
AND have to have a Fiscal Rep..
Presumably there would be some sense in the Fiscal Rep being the Solicitador/a who acts for the buyer in the purchase of the property ?

AliceCaroline

What was the "other site"?

From what I've read Red Eric is correct and this other site wrong.