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mxmx Apr 4th 2018 1:31 am

Fiscal Representative
 
Hi Everybody,

Does anyone know of a reputable, cost effective, fiscal representative in Portugal?

Moved outside of the EU and my understanding is that I now need to designate a fiscal representative since I happen to have a Portuguese NINo number (NIF)...

Not a tax resident in Portugal nor do I have any income/property but don't have any family in the country that I could entrust with those responsibilities.

I went through some older threads in the forum and looked at the companies recommended but their annual fees are now over 300 euros a year which in my case feels like a lot of money.

Looking ideally for something in the 100-200 euro range and if anyone could recommend someone they've had a good experience with I would really appreciate it! I speak Portuguese so language is not a barrier :)

Thanks

Mac and Mabel Apr 4th 2018 10:44 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
If you're not tax resident and don't own property in PT, what responsibilities do you think you have requiring of a fiscal representative?

bejaboz Apr 4th 2018 11:53 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 

Originally Posted by mxmx (Post 12475748)
Hi Everybody,

Does anyone know of a reputable, cost effective, fiscal representative in Portugal?

Moved outside of the EU and my understanding is that I now need to designate a fiscal representative since I happen to have a Portuguese NINo number (NIF)...

Not a tax resident in Portugal nor do I have any income/property but don't have any family in the country that I could entrust with those responsibilities.

I went through some older threads in the forum and looked at the companies recommended but their annual fees are now over 300 euros a year which in my case feels like a lot of money.

Looking ideally for something in the 100-200 euro range and if anyone could recommend someone they've had a good experience with I would really appreciate it! I speak Portuguese so language is not a barrier :)

Thanks


We were non residents for nearly ten years and never used a fiscal representative, total waste of money when all they do is pay your bills and as Mac and Mabel have said. it doesn't sound like you need one anyway.

mxmx Apr 5th 2018 1:22 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
Thanks for the replies.

I agree with you that it doesn't seem to make sense for me to appoint one given that I don't have any tax matters to answer to.

With that said, after registering with the consulate following my exit from the EU I received a letter from the tax people (Autoridade Tributaria) informing me that it is the law that all citizens with a NIF living outside of the EU are required to appoint a fiscal representative in Portugal.

I wrote to them and explained my situation ( I wanted to see if I could cancel my NIF or perhaps be excused from that requirement ) but no luck.

So my options right now are to either ignore it (which could potentially lead to, I believe, a 750 EUR fine plus having to appoint a fiscal representative anyways), hire a lawyer in Portugal to look into canceling my NIF ( potentially a long and costly process ) or find a cheap fiscal representative.

I'm exploring all avenues and thought I would ask here to see if anyone knows of a fiscal representative that is cost-effective and hasn't given them any headaches.

Mac and Mabel Apr 5th 2018 2:11 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
Have pm-ed you.

mxmx Apr 5th 2018 4:30 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
Thanks Mac and Mabel.

mxmx Apr 5th 2018 4:30 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
Looks like I need at least 4 posts to be able to see the message so here it goes :)

lapper Apr 6th 2018 9:47 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
Hello,

pm sent.

Kind regards,
Louis

riv May 2nd 2018 10:36 am

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
So can anyone state definitively whether it is the case that someone owning a house in Portugal BUT not being resident - just visiting for hols less than 6 months total in the year - IS or is not required by law to have a Fiscal Rep ?

If it is not a legal requirement can someone please set out exactly what they do ?

If you own a property and have an NIF does this mean you MUST send in a tax return each year ? If so I think i wd prefer to have a Fiscal Rep. do it for me, but I would much appreciate learning what the legal position is.
Thanks.

Red Eric May 2nd 2018 7:35 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
If you're resident in another EU member state you are not required to appoint a fiscal rep.

If you're not resident in Portugal and you don't have any income arising in Portugal, you do not file a tax return.

If you own a property under the above circumstances then all you need do is pay the annual tax. You can do this yourself from abroad provided you have a PT bank account and online access to your account with Finanças.

lapper May 2nd 2018 7:42 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
PM-ed you, riv.

KR

Red Eric May 2nd 2018 7:59 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 

Originally Posted by lapper (Post 12493526)
PM-ed you, riv.

KR

Not information you'd like to share with the rest of the forum?

Hmm - I wonder why that is :frown:

riv May 2nd 2018 8:37 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
This is useful ( and a relief ) to know.

By 'pay the tax' - I take it you mean the IMI - equivalent of local council tax ?
Do you know if the Ca^mara will arrange to send the demand to an address in uk ? It's a once a year thing so I suppose if one knows when to expect it it can be a peg on which to hang a visit ( and / or just pay with an international bank transfer ).

Thanks again.


Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12493524)
If you're resident in another EU member state you are not required to appoint a fiscal rep.

If you're not resident in Portugal and you don't have any income arising in Portugal, you do not file a tax return.

If you own a property under the above circumstances then all you need do is pay the annual tax. You can do this yourself from abroad provided you have a PT bank account and online access to your account with Finanças.


riv May 2nd 2018 10:59 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 
ON another site I did read that if you have an NIF you DO have to make a tax return ( even if it's a nil income in Portugal one ).
AND have to have a Fiscal Rep..
Presumably there would be some sense in the Fiscal Rep being the Solicitador/a who acts for the buyer in the purchase of the property ?

AliceCaroline May 2nd 2018 11:27 pm

Re: Fiscal Representative
 

Originally Posted by riv (Post 12493644)
ON another site I did read that if you have an NIF you DO have to make a tax return ( even if it's a nil income in Portugal one ).
AND have to have a Fiscal Rep..
Presumably there would be some sense in the Fiscal Rep being the Solicitador/a who acts for the buyer in the purchase of the property ?

What was the "other site"?

From what I've read Red Eric is correct and this other site wrong.


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