Driving in Portugal
#2
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Re: Driving in Portugal
Yes but only for the past 18 years. They seem to get away with it in the Algarve because you seldom see police on the roads.
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Re: Driving in Portugal
Yes, huge problem and nothing seems to be done about it - so frustrating....never mind plain dangerous!
#6
Re: Driving in Portugal
Its no more dangerous than facing your passenger during a conversation, which remains the norm here
Some other good ones:
Swinging out left (or right) to get space to turn right (or left) as if you are driving an articulated lorry towing a trailer, not a car
45 mph (or less, or randomly changing speed) in the middle lane of a motorway (empty or full, makes no difference)
Tailgating so close you can smell their breath
weaving in and out using all lanes to under/overtake (especially if on a bike)
Lots of Chico-espertos zooming past the patiently waiting traffic in the correct lane to cut in at the last minute as soon as anyone leaves the smallest gap, thereby meaning people at the back of the queue dont actually move forward.
Stopping on a roundabout to pick up and or drop off people
reversing back onto a roundabout (I nearly had to change my seat covers when this happened as I was leaving the roundabout)
Stopping in the most creatively dangerous place to talk on the phone (all fine though as the hazard lights may (or may not) be on)
And these are just the examples I have seen so far this week (its Monday)
Driving here is dangerous and hence stressful, just be extra, extra careful and always assume that any other road user could do something unbelievably stupid and dangerous at any time, which someone invariably does, and you should come through OK, maybe
Of course, the accidents rates are only high here because of the badly marked roads, as I am repeatedly and knowledgeably informed
Some other good ones:
Swinging out left (or right) to get space to turn right (or left) as if you are driving an articulated lorry towing a trailer, not a car
45 mph (or less, or randomly changing speed) in the middle lane of a motorway (empty or full, makes no difference)
Tailgating so close you can smell their breath
weaving in and out using all lanes to under/overtake (especially if on a bike)
Lots of Chico-espertos zooming past the patiently waiting traffic in the correct lane to cut in at the last minute as soon as anyone leaves the smallest gap, thereby meaning people at the back of the queue dont actually move forward.
Stopping on a roundabout to pick up and or drop off people
reversing back onto a roundabout (I nearly had to change my seat covers when this happened as I was leaving the roundabout)
Stopping in the most creatively dangerous place to talk on the phone (all fine though as the hazard lights may (or may not) be on)
And these are just the examples I have seen so far this week (its Monday)
Driving here is dangerous and hence stressful, just be extra, extra careful and always assume that any other road user could do something unbelievably stupid and dangerous at any time, which someone invariably does, and you should come through OK, maybe
Of course, the accidents rates are only high here because of the badly marked roads, as I am repeatedly and knowledgeably informed
#8
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Re: Driving in Portugal
There seems to be a magnet down the centre of the road here because everyone seems to drive in the middle and then look incredibly surprised at the car coming from the opposite direction.
#9
Re: Driving in Portugal
They read somewhere that they have to tear down the dotted line.
#11
Re: Driving in Portugal
I don't like denigrating any nationality, but especially Portuguese in Portugal.
I've driven many vehicles in many countries on several continents.
My observation is that there are good and bad drivers everywhere.
I've driven many vehicles in many countries on several continents.
My observation is that there are good and bad drivers everywhere.
#12
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Re: Driving in Portugal
I can't help observing the lack of police enforcement where mobile phone use is involved, especially after coming close to having a head on collision twice in one week. Came very close to ending up in the ditch both times too.
#13
Re: Driving in Portugal
The mechanic in the local garage told me yesterday that the police will concentrate on easy to prove things that they are certain to get the fine money from.
He also then launched into a spittle-flecked tirade about the state of the country - I learnt a lot of new Portuguese words
Oh, I forgot,
Indicating left entering a roundabout, irrespective of which exit you will take (because we are going round anticlockwise?) and then exiting still indicating left
Indicating after initiating the turn (to show we are turning and not veering randomly?)
NEVER indicating (Lisbon, indicator stalks docked at birth)
I wonder what percentage of the drivers on the road obtained their licences when bribing the tester was the norm here?
I loved my friends' faces on their first visit as we drove home from Lisbon airport - as white as their knuckles (which were deeply embedded in the dashboard)
He also then launched into a spittle-flecked tirade about the state of the country - I learnt a lot of new Portuguese words
Oh, I forgot,
Indicating left entering a roundabout, irrespective of which exit you will take (because we are going round anticlockwise?) and then exiting still indicating left
Indicating after initiating the turn (to show we are turning and not veering randomly?)
NEVER indicating (Lisbon, indicator stalks docked at birth)
I wonder what percentage of the drivers on the road obtained their licences when bribing the tester was the norm here?
I loved my friends' faces on their first visit as we drove home from Lisbon airport - as white as their knuckles (which were deeply embedded in the dashboard)
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Re: Driving in Portugal
I have found zebra crossings to be a danger point for pedestrians.