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Pincher Jun 6th 2010 4:46 am

WAPol: transitional/lateral entry.
 
Hi,
I know there has been lots about the International recruitment pathway into WAPol. However, is anyone out there going via the Transitional/lateral entry route?
My wife's an Ozzie, and I will be applying for a Spouse visa and hopefully WAPol through this route.
Thanks.

richie-318 Jun 14th 2010 8:47 am

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Originally Posted by Pincher (Post 8615135)
Hi,
I know there has been lots about the International recruitment pathway into WAPol. However, is anyone out there going via the Transitional/lateral entry route?
My wife's an Ozzie, and I will be applying for a Spouse visa and hopefully WAPol through this route.
Thanks.

Don't know about this one but please keep us updated.

Pincher Jun 15th 2010 6:24 am

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Will do. But don't hold your breath. I haven't started on the visa paper work yet!!!

geordiebloke Jul 9th 2010 7:13 pm

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Heard a rumor the other day that WAPol are going to recommence the DEAT/Transitional program by the end of the year.

Nothing on the official website to say that this is the case, but worth keeping a look out for anyway :)

Pincher Jul 9th 2010 8:09 pm

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Thanks for the heads up. Will keep a look out on the site.

richie-318 Jul 9th 2010 11:48 pm

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Originally Posted by geordiebloke (Post 8690885)
Heard a rumor the other day that WAPol are going to recommence the DEAT/Transitional program by the end of the year.

Nothing on the official website to say that this is the case, but worth keeping a look out for anyway :)

If you hear anything more please let us know, I got stung last time when they cancelled it.

StuArc Jul 18th 2010 11:29 pm

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Hi all.

Having applied and passed for Edmonton Police in Canada, I have been unfortunate enough to have been 'culled' in the financial climate.

I did download a WAPOL form in 2007, but went on holidays the next days and returned 14days later to find WAPOL ended their recruitment campaign.

Anyone out there knows if theyintend to recruit from the U.K again???

StuArc Jul 20th 2010 1:16 am

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I've now sent an email to WAPOL.

I'll update those on here when I get a reply.

StuArc Aug 9th 2010 9:24 am

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NOT RECRUITING - NO PLANS TOO EITHER!

geordiebloke Aug 9th 2010 3:21 pm

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Originally Posted by StuArc (Post 8764799)
NOT RECRUITING - NO PLANS TOO EITHER!

I wouldn't give up hope, or read too much into the above. WAPol are still losing a high number of cops to other trades and I can only see this increasing over the coming months/years.
These cops have to be replaced and certainly, over recent years at least, they have struggled to get their quota via the local population, hence the transitional program.
My advice would be, sit tight and regularly check out the WAPol website.

richie-318 Aug 21st 2010 5:45 am

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Originally Posted by geordiebloke (Post 8765380)
I wouldn't give up hope, or read too much into the above. WAPol are still losing a high number of cops to other trades and I can only see this increasing over the coming months/years.
These cops have to be replaced and certainly, over recent years at least, they have struggled to get their quota via the local population, hence the transitional program.
My advice would be, sit tight and regularly check out the WAPol website.

Why are they all leaving? Does make you think.....

I'm still holding out for them to start recruiting again. However also thinking maybe looking at the MODL taking a year or so out and learning one of those.

Any thoughts anyone?

geordiebloke Aug 21st 2010 7:46 pm

Re: WAPol: transitional/lateral entry.
 

Originally Posted by richie-318 (Post 8792843)
Why are they all leaving? Does make you think.....

I'm still holding out for them to start recruiting again. However also thinking maybe looking at the MODL taking a year or so out and learning one of those.

Any thoughts anyone?

Mate, the main reason for the high turnover of cops, is that there are far more opportunities to make better money doing other things.
That's not to say that pay and conditions are bad, because they're not, but when the opportunity exists to make twice as much working on the mines,
or going back to a trade, you can see why many are tempted.
WA is on the verge of a resources boom that most experts are saying will be on an unprecedented scale. This will require huge numbers of workers and no doubt lead to an increase in people leaving the public sector, just like the previous boom.
These people have to be replaced, hopefully leading to more opportunities for you guys.

woodhillkamikaze Oct 18th 2010 6:25 pm

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i'm a current NZ police officer. I applied last year and we visited in Jan this year. Perth is a lovely place and I finally got an email 3 weeks ago asking if I'm still interested in joining and could I come over Nov for the assessments as there is provisionally a transitional course March 2011. Unfortunately I had shoulder surgery 3 days after receiving the email but I let them know I'm still keen as and will hoefully be good for assessments January '11. Fingers crossed!:fingerscrossed:

Pincher Oct 19th 2010 2:12 am

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Please keep us up to date with how you get on, and good luck!

woodhillkamikaze Oct 19th 2010 12:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Pincher (Post 8928365)
Please keep us up to date with how you get on, and good luck!

Will do and thanks :) It's such a long and slow process but hopefully in the end it will all be worth it :thumbsup:

woodhillkamikaze Nov 3rd 2010 5:58 pm

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Update:

Had my surgery and all's well. Emailed the recruitment lady and have been given the dates of 10-12 of Jan provisionally however should receive confirmation letter next week sometime. :thumbsup:

Now to train as much as possible for the beep test and fitness and get the strength back in my shoulder :)

Hopefully I have allowed myself enough time in 2 months but now I have a target and can get into the selection pool!

I'll let you all know how it pans out :fingerscrossed:

Zambia Nov 20th 2010 8:33 pm

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Hi

Folks what is the current story on WA Police taking in lateral entries?

I have a few people back in the UK asking.

Thanks
Z

Pincher Nov 22nd 2010 6:19 am

Re: WAPol: transitional/lateral entry.
 
Hi.
The Transitional/Lateral entry is for Police officers who qualify to work in Australia through already having a visa (I will fit this criteria as my wife is an Oz and I am in the process of applying a spouse visa). WA Pol are currently recruiting so if you already have a visa you will be eligible.
WA Pol also run (ran?) an international entry pathway for cops without visas (ie you apply and if successful you would then get a visa). However this pathway is currently closed.
Hope this helps.

geordiebloke Nov 22nd 2010 7:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Pincher (Post 8997405)
Hi.
The Transitional/Lateral entry is for Police officers who qualify to work in Australia through already having a visa (I will fit this criteria as my wife is an Oz and I am in the process of applying a spouse visa). WA Pol are currently recruiting so if you already have a visa you will be eligible.
WA Pol also run (ran?) an international entry pathway for cops without visas (ie you apply and if successful you would then get a visa). However this pathway is currently closed.
Hope this helps.

Just to clarify the above, the visa has to be of the permanent residency kind, which is the minimum to be employed as a police officer. Only having a working or temp visa will not suffice.

naomilondon Jan 1st 2011 7:46 am

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Hi, I am in the same position as you. A UK based Sgt have permanent residency visa for Oz which I activated in March. I visited the recruitment team in Joondalup at the time and was told if I submit an application it would be 18 months before they looked at it, although something has obviously changed as they are recruiting now! They did say I would need to fly back out to Perth to sit entrance exams and fitness tests etc. Will keep an eye on your thread for any updates, I haven't lodged an application yet, planning on doing so as soon as I feel I am fit enough after having had a baby just a couple of months ago don't think my abs would cope with the sit-up!

Zambia Jan 1st 2011 11:49 am

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Originally Posted by naomilondon (Post 9071128)
Hi, I am in the same position as you. A UK based Sgt have permanent residency visa for Oz which I activated in March. I visited the recruitment team in Joondalup at the time and was told if I submit an application it would be 18 months before they looked at it, although something has obviously changed as they are recruiting now! They did say I would need to fly back out to Perth to sit entrance exams and fitness tests etc. Will keep an eye on your thread for any updates, I haven't lodged an application yet, planning on doing so as soon as I feel I am fit enough after having had a baby just a couple of months ago don't think my abs would cope with the sit-up!

Naomi you could also try the Victoria police at present they are recruiting. Unsure of lateral entry but they would be worth a call.

naomilondon Jan 1st 2011 9:28 pm

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Thanks, I will have a look at their site.
Also forgot to say before, they said that if I was successful at getting into WAPOL that I would go as a PC, there is no provision to transfer at rank or into a specialist role, you have to do mandatory 18months as normal PC before you can apply for specialist roles. They do recognise pior service and this is reflected in pay scales and they said there may be the possibility of going as senior constable. I was also reminded of the fact that you have to do 2 years country service, which worries me slightly especially if I get my son settled in school in Perth and then we have to uproot to the middle of nowhere, in the UK they work hard to post you where it is convenient for you to work dependent on your family circumstances sounds like it is quite different over there. If anyone works for WAPOL that was previously a UK officer maybe you could comment on the differences etc?

geordiebloke Jan 1st 2011 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by naomilondon (Post 9072068)
Thanks, I will have a look at their site.
Also forgot to say before, they said that if I was successful at getting into WAPOL that I would go as a PC, there is no provision to transfer at rank or into a specialist role, you have to do mandatory 18months as normal PC before you can apply for specialist roles. They do recognise pior service and this is reflected in pay scales and they said there may be the possibility of going as senior constable. I was also reminded of the fact that you have to do 2 years country service, which worries me slightly especially if I get my son settled in school in Perth and then we have to uproot to the middle of nowhere, in the UK they work hard to post you where it is convenient for you to work dependent on your family circumstances sounds like it is quite different over there. If anyone works for WAPOL that was previously a UK officer maybe you could comment on the differences etc?

They do recognise prior service in WAPol, but not rank, if you have between 5 and 9 years service, you are eligible to become a first class constable, if you have 9 years plus service, you are eligible to become a senior constable, once you pass the required exams and courses (not hard and can be completed within your first year here)
Country service..... well yes you have to do it, but it can be as little as 1 year if you go to the right place.
I've have not heard of anybody being forced to do these postings and you can argue exceptional circumstances if they are looking to move you to a country spot.
I would also say that everybody I know who is doing, or has done a country spot, really enjoys it and the opportunities it offers.
Don't let the country posting bit put you off as it really isn't something to worry about.
All the best

Steve

naomilondon Jan 3rd 2011 6:42 am

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Thanks Steve, I will be submitting my application soon.

Just another quick note, not sure how far through your spouse visa application you are at the moment but they advise it can take up to 6 months, I did mine with Australia house they were really good, had it back within 4 weeks! Just a shame that it cost's a small fortune!

woodhillkamikaze Jan 22nd 2011 5:31 pm

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Just another update. I sat the entrance exams and fitness tests on the 10th - 12th of January and passed it all :thumbup:

Had the panel interview as well which I think went well. Now I am waiting to hear back from them to say yes. Then I get my full medical done and a bankruptcy check and once they clear all that I'll be there :fingerscrossed:

The transitional course starts 14th March this year so not long. We are hoping to get there for it as they told me they aren't sure if there'll be another one this year.

I will advise as soon as I hear from them :) Hopefully soon!

Paddy78 Jan 22nd 2011 8:39 pm

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Hello,

Stumbled on this blog by chance a moment ago. I got called up last week by the recruiting office and head over to Joondalup next week for the assessments! Can you give me a buzz when you get a moment:

027 3357288....on call tonight then on rdo's

Cheers, Simon

Zambia Jan 22nd 2011 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Paddy78 (Post 9122142)
Hello,

Stumbled on this blog by chance a moment ago. I got called up last week by the recruiting office and head over to Joondalup next week for the assessments! Can you give me a buzz when you get a moment:

027 3357288....on call tonight then on rdo's

Cheers, Simon

Just to clarify are you saying WAPOL are taking lateral entrys at present?

Congrats

Pincher Jan 23rd 2011 3:14 am

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They're not taking international applicants (ie a UK officer who doesn't have a visa). They are recruiting however, so if you are a UK officer who already has a visa entitling you to work in Oz, then you may apply. If you have previous policing experience, they will take this into account and push you up the pay scale accordingly.

Paddy78 Jan 23rd 2011 5:48 am

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Originally Posted by Zambia (Post 9122211)
Just to clarify are you saying WAPOL are taking lateral entrys at present?

Congrats

Cheers. Yes they have a wing for lateral / transitional officers in mid march. I got a call up a week or so ago. I applied in Sept 10 only so its happened pretty quick. Good luck.

ESTM Jan 24th 2011 4:00 am

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Hi all

Pincher, just to be clear when you mean visa to work do you mean a bog standard working visa or a spouse visa, because if its the first then i could apply?

I sent an email to recruitment last year in December and it was only for people who had been granted visa's due to spouses or key skills etc

Can you just confirm this mate please? :)

Cheers

Eds

geordiebloke Jan 24th 2011 1:18 pm

Re: WAPol: transitional/lateral entry.
 

Originally Posted by ESTM (Post 9125210)
Hi all

Pincher, just to be clear when you mean visa to work do you mean a bog standard working visa or a spouse visa, because if its the first then i could apply?

I sent an email to recruitment last year in December and it was only for people who had been granted visa's due to spouses or key skills etc

Can you just confirm this mate please? :)

Cheers

Eds

Whatever visa you have, it has to entitle you to permanent residency with no other restrictions, it's the minimum standard (visa wise) required to be a police officer over here.

Weebie Jan 31st 2011 2:15 pm

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Article in todays paper saying that the foreign drive was a success but also suggesting that it wasn't a success. They won't be doign nay foreign recruiting soon the article said.

woodhillkamikaze Feb 6th 2011 12:32 pm

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I got the email :) I am going for my final medical this afternoon and then as long as that is good I will be starting on the 14th March! :thumbsup: Almost there! :eek:

daunted Jul 12th 2011 4:58 am

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My son will be heading over from UK for recruitment assessments in September :thumbsup::wub:


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