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Pincher Apr 15th 2014 10:18 am

WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Well everyone. Onto the next hurdle!

Ok. I'll try to be helpful, but without giving to much away as that's not fair on those not on this forum, and it has to be on your own merit, not others.
The Stepforward tests have gone, but were of the following format:

Spelling: given a list of 6 words. Pick the one or two that are spelt incorrectly.

Antonyms/Synonyms: A list of six words. Pick out those, usually two, which are similar in meaning to each other, or different in meaning to the other four.

Statements: A statement is made. Then a list of four facts. Pick those facts which prove the statement.

Spatial reasoning: Pick the next shape/pattern in a sequence.

Maths: Work out the relationship between a list of numbers and work out what the missing numbers are.

I looked at the Vetassess test example for Victoria Police. This is a good representation of what should be practised:

http://www.vetassess.com.au/take_a_t...asoningAbility

Stepforward recommended a list of books to help. I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I thought it was ok. But I actually scored high on the StepForward tests so didn't do that much practising.

Mike Bryon and Sanjay Mohda have published several books on passing selection tests

Hope this helps.

Messy82 Apr 15th 2014 10:40 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Any help and advice is greatly appreciated Pincher :) I was wondering what tests they had taken off the site.

Thank you!

Lobsta28 Apr 15th 2014 7:22 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Hi pincher, I'm new to this forum so wondering if you have experience of the PEE tests and the stages after this?
Not looking for the answers just expectations of the format, dress code, next steps.
Your post is helpful in preparation for the initial exams, thanks

Pincher Apr 15th 2014 11:29 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
I've been through the whole procedure, albeit at Perth. Rather than go through everything step by step all in one go (it's a long process) it will be easier to address each stage as it is reached.
:)

BillyBoomhauser Apr 16th 2014 10:05 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Thanks for this Pincher.

I know you don't want to give too much away, but does the mathematics section of the PEE include general math questions (i.e division, multiplication, etc.) or is it purely working out missing numbers?

Cheers for your help.

Slippery Pete Apr 17th 2014 9:39 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by BillyBoomhauser (Post 11222318)
Thanks for this Pincher.

I know you don't want to give too much away, but does the mathematics section of the PEE include general math questions (i.e division, multiplication, etc.) or is it purely working out missing numbers?

Cheers for your help.

It's both at the WAPOL academy so it maybe the same

Pincher Apr 17th 2014 11:10 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
The format of the tests aren't set in stone. From having spoken to applicants who have sat the PEE in both the UK and in Perth they're always different and you may not always get what you're expecting.

gregster10217 Apr 17th 2014 1:58 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Lobsta28 (Post 11220591)
Hi pincher, I'm new to this forum so wondering if you have experience of the PEE tests and the stages after this?
Not looking for the answers just expectations of the format, dress code, next steps.
Your post is helpful in preparation for the initial exams, thanks

I went through the whole process in London last year. Like Pincher, I won't give anything away, but would suggest you follow his advise regarding preparation for the PEE. With regard to dress, I firmly believe you will be assessed at every stage (even if you aren't) so I would dress accordingly, as in a suit and tie for all of it, even the information session. There were people on my PEE wearing ripped jeans and t-shirts with tattoos all over the place. Tattoos aren't a problem as long as they're not offensive, generally, but jeans and a t-shirt for a professional exam?! I don't think so. Strangely enough, the people I saw dressed like that, I haven't seen them again.
For what it's worth, having been in Australia with the family for near on 6 weeks now, and 3 at the academy, it's been the best thing we've ever done and will not be returning to the UK. So people, use your time wisely and prepare, prepare, prepare as it is so very worthwhile.
:D

Lobsta28 Apr 17th 2014 6:17 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Gregster, that's helpful thanks
Any books, sites, apps that are good to help you get back into maths,Robles solving, spelling and the likes?

Deblongden Apr 18th 2014 8:56 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by gregster10217 (Post 11223292)
I went through the whole process in London last year. Like Pincher, I won't give anything away, but would suggest you follow his advise regarding preparation for the PEE. With regard to dress, I firmly believe you will be assessed at every stage (even if you aren't) so I would dress accordingly, as in a suit and tie for all of it, even the information session. There were people on my PEE wearing ripped jeans and t-shirts with tattoos all over the place. Tattoos aren't a problem as long as they're not offensive, generally, but jeans and a t-shirt for a professional exam?! I don't think so. Strangely enough, the people I saw dressed like that, I haven't seen them again.
For what it's worth, having been in Australia with the family for near on 6 weeks now, and 3 at the academy, it's been the best thing we've ever done and will not be returning to the UK. So people, use your time wisely and prepare, prepare, prepare as it is so very worthwhile.
:D

Hi, Can you recommend any decent hotels close to the PEE venue please? Also am I right in thinking London Kings Cross is the closest main train station?

Thank you :)

HarryBosch Apr 18th 2014 10:40 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
I stayed in the Strand Palace Hotel. Top of Waterloo bridge. 2 mins from Australia House.
HB

Slippery Pete Apr 18th 2014 11:28 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by HarryBosch (Post 11224423)
I stayed in the Strand Palace Hotel. Top of Waterloo bridge. 2 mins from Australia House.
HB

If it's a nice place to stay :)

Deblongden Apr 18th 2014 12:51 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by HarryBosch (Post 11224423)
I stayed in the Strand Palace Hotel. Top of Waterloo bridge. 2 mins from Australia House.
HB

Cheers HB :)

HarryBosch Apr 19th 2014 12:04 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
I paid £180 for two nights which given it's location was a pretty decent price. Biggest thing for me was that it was only a 2 min walk to Australia House.

A few others I know stayed in rooms above the YMCA where you do your fitness tests. It's the other side of Covant garden from Australua House. Maybe a 20 walk.
If you check back last years posts about interview/fitness the details are in there.
HB

Silverman2014 Apr 19th 2014 8:56 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Is there a pass mark you need to reach for the PEE or are you against everyone else and they will take x amount of people who scored highest? Any ideas on the failure rate on last years PEE?

Pincher Apr 19th 2014 11:14 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
They don't tell you and you'll get no feedback. But clearly there must be some form of candidate ranking based on performance.

gregster10217 Apr 19th 2014 3:00 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Don't know about a pass mark, I thought I'd flunked it on the maths but clearly not. I think they judge it on overall performance and take the top xxx through to the next stage.
Could be wrong though.

Lobsta28 Apr 19th 2014 6:37 pm

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Hi. Just a question on fitness, what would the beep test pass be for a 33 year old male please, and is there any distance ranges / iPhone apps you could practise with, thanks x

grdnblack Apr 19th 2014 7:24 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Lobsta, I think you'll be looking at a minimum level of 9.1 (19-29yrs 10.1, 30-39yrs 9.1, 40+yrs 8.1) with the lines/markers 20m apart, obviously the higher the better. Searching online should find you an mp3 of the beeps

Pincher Apr 19th 2014 7:37 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Here's a link to a table which you can use to replicate the run on a running machine in a gym. Not exactly the same, but I found it really helpful, especially preparing during the wet winter months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-stage_fitness_test

They tell you that it's not based on best effort just go for your age target, but everyone with me did a little extra than they needed to.

Lobsta28 Apr 19th 2014 9:21 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Thank you both very much, really appreciated x

gregster10217 Apr 20th 2014 12:12 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Lobsta, type in bleep test/20m bleep test into the App Store search section and you'll get a number of results.
The other thing to practise is the agility test, especially the start. And get yourself some decent trainers, proper fitness trainers, not designer things. You will need something with a good grip to make the turns.

Lobsta28 Apr 20th 2014 5:32 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Thanks Gregster x

Richie86 Apr 20th 2014 9:43 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
I imagine this has already been asked a few times but I thought I'd repost in an attempt to get some direct answers. I'm through to the PEE in May and have been looking at a few psychometric test books but none of them seem particularly good. They all seem too simple or easy, I've even looked up to graduate level books. Any recommendations guys? I don't want to be spending weeks trawling the Internet/Waterstones when I could be revising.

Thank You Muchly!

Pincher Apr 21st 2014 6:38 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Richie86 (Post 11227007)
I imagine this has already been asked a few times but I thought I'd repost in an attempt to get some direct answers. I'm through to the PEE in May and have been looking at a few psychometric test books but none of them seem particularly good. They all seem too simple or easy, I've even looked up to graduate level books. Any recommendations guys? I don't want to be spending weeks trawling the Internet/Waterstones when I could be revising.

Thank You Muchly!

How about a 'brain training' type app for your mobile/computer which increases in difficulty as you progress. I hear 'Luminosity's supposed to be very good.

Richie86 Apr 21st 2014 9:07 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Pincher (Post 11227286)
How about a 'brain training' type app for your mobile/computer which increases in difficulty as you progress. I hear 'Luminosity's supposed to be very good.

Pincher, thank you. Downloaded that app & am playing away as we speak.

arronc Apr 21st 2014 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by Richie86 (Post 11227422)
Pincher, thank you. Downloaded that app & am playing away as we speak.

I couldn't find the app is it on andriod?

Richie86 Apr 21st 2014 10:12 am

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Originally Posted by arronc (Post 11227440)
I couldn't find the app is it on andriod?

iPhone arronc

Pincher Apr 21st 2014 10:22 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
You should be able to get it for you computer for any format. For Android phones try 'Mind Games'.

Lividave Apr 21st 2014 1:01 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Hi Guys,

New to this site and first time post.

I've been fortunate enough to make it to the PPE on the 28th of May and was wondering if it consists of only mulitple choice questions?

From the example questions I've seen online its all multiple but have heard differently.

Thanks

Lobsta28 Apr 22nd 2014 7:37 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
I'd be interested to know this too Lividave!

Pincher Apr 22nd 2014 9:56 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Not being deliberately obtuse. All, some or none may be multiple choice. Usually some are, but the format changes each time.
Keep an open mind as to what to expect.

Departie Apr 22nd 2014 10:51 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Hi There, I'm through to the PEE test on the 29th of May, I'm a little confused as to if the physical test is held on the same day after reading other posts, can anybody confirm that it is purely the PEE test? The confirmation email didn't contain a great deal of info of what to bring etc!

Lividave Apr 22nd 2014 12:45 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Departie (Post 11228905)
Hi There, I'm through to the PEE test on the 29th of May, I'm a little confused as to if the physical test is held on the same day after reading other posts, can anybody confirm that it is purely the PEE test? The confirmation email didn't contain a great deal of info of what to bring etc!

I believe its just the PPE test at this stage, the physical test follows if your succesful.


Thanks Pitcher, wasn't quite sure.

old.sparkles Apr 22nd 2014 1:17 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Lividave (Post 11229065)
I believe its just the PPE test at this stage, the physical test follows if your succesful.


Thanks Pitcher, wasn't quite sure.

Think you mean Pincher :)

Pincher Apr 26th 2014 5:53 pm

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
Did a bit of rooting around and found this book. It might be useful(?)

Police Prep : Comprehensive Guide to Australian Police Officer Exams

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Bo...n%3D0973515112

and this company...

http://www.policeprep.com/australia/Public/tour_au.htm

Orange Hudson May 15th 2014 11:22 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 
hello,

I apologise if this is posted elsewhere but I was wondering if anyone has any examples of the Math based questions or knows where I could find some...

thanks :)

old.sparkles May 15th 2014 11:26 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Orange Hudson (Post 11261481)
hello,

I apologise if this is posted elsewhere but I was wondering if anyone has any examples of the Math based questions or knows where I could find some...

thanks :)

There's some info in the rest of this thread :)

Orange Hudson May 15th 2014 11:39 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11261488)
There's some info in the rest of this thread :)

thanks, I found this:

"Maths: Work out the relationship between a list of numbers and work out what the missing numbers are"

but I was hoping someone might have had some actual examples to practice or a link to some etc... :)

old.sparkles May 15th 2014 11:48 am

Re: WAPol 2014 PEE preparation
 

Originally Posted by Orange Hudson (Post 11261501)
thanks, I found this:

"Maths: Work out the relationship between a list of numbers and work out what the missing numbers are"

but I was hoping someone might have had some actual examples to practice or a link to some etc... :)

Not sure on the type of test you need

There are some free tests here - http://www.psychometricinstitute.com...n=ipc_co_promo

or here - http://www.psychometricinstitute.com...tude-Tests.asp

Google psychometric testing. There is some mention of a book Pincher brought in the first post. Not sure if you want to order that, or the Luminosity app. / Brain training sort of thing


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