Any current or recent RCIPS officers on here?
 

Hi all,

I am looking to bend the ear of any willing and able RCIPS officers, either currently serving or ex.

Good points and bad, I am not looking for any rose tinted view, and after living in Cayman and also reading posts on here that would certainly be unwise anyway!

Please get in touch if you feel you have a view point to offer on this.....

Many thanks.

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how can i assist?

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Have just looked on RCIPS website, seems they maybe recruiting overseas officers with more than 5 years policing experience. Do you know if this is correct?

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Have looked on the site can't doesn't seem they are recruiting other than new recruits?

Maybe iv missed it.

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RCIPS looking for GPD Officers and also firearms Officers, advertised on policeoracle.com

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Hi folks. It appears they are recruiting a number of posts. Details can be found on www.gov.ky. They are looking for uniformed officers, experienced detectives and S I O'S. I have looked back at some threads on this site going back to 2010/2011. Back then there were some very negative opinions about working as a police officer in RCIPS. Are there any current serving officers who can shed any light on whether things have improved. I would be looking to apply for one of the detective roles if I were to apply. There are many things to consider, one being I would have to resign from my current force as they are no longer offering career breaks. I have 15 years in the job, I'm female, single and have no real ties to keep me in the UK. I would welcome any opinions before applying. Thanks :)

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Hi RSthetruth - potential applicant here! :) If you're serving with the RCIPS, it'll probably be difficult to communicate... From what I've read, their supervisors monitor this forum quite avidly, and posts have previously caused "flare ups" at work. Do you think this is still the case? Feel free to PM.

Also, hi to siren! I've seen exactly the same adverts as you... I've done a LOT of research the last day or two - reading news articles and forum posts (both new and old) and there's an absolute wealth of material on the RCIPS, mostly highly varied in content, some of which I might be inclined to take with a pinch of salt.

I'm in a similar boat to yourself - a serving UK officer, 10 years service, and my force will require resignation in order for me to transfer... Although to be honest, the rate they're getting rid of people these days, that's probably a blessing in disguise, pension or not. Not having any ties here, I'm happy (pending successful application and interview) to make the jump, although not knowing anybody over there it might be an interesting start to things!

To save filling this thread with my own information, if you (or anybody else for that matter!) wants to PM me we can exchange e-mail addresses and I'll give you some more information and thoughts... Be interesting to hear which forces you're all from in case you're just down the road! It'd be great to keep in touch with other potential applications - round this neck of the woods, I'm the only one! :(

Also - to save anybody needlessly registering on policeoracle.com, their current advert states:

We are currently seeking to fill vacancies to complement four key areas of policing.

General Policing:-
1. Uniform – Required to perform general policing duties as a part of district operations including proactive patrols and responses.
2. Firearms – Required to provide firearms support and assist in effective firearms responses.

Specialist Policing:-
1. Criminal Investigations – Required to assist with general criminal investigations including homicides.
2. Financial Crimes – Required to assist with complex financial investigations.

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Aaand apparently private messaging is restricted to users with more than 3 posts...

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I'm trying to find out if this is a permanent contract, I wouldn't resign from my current force if RCIPS are only offering a max number of years I.e 7.

The way things are you would be unlikely to get back into a U.K force after the 7 years are up.

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As previous posts, considering my options and grateful for more info.

Like a number of colleagues north of the border, things havent been exactly a change for the best.

Have been using LinkedIn to speak with a serving RCIP officers and from.his account nothing has put me off

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Hey bud,

The advert they're currently running states "...for an initial commitment of three years". Looking into the history of their recruitment drives, it seems as though they always recruit at the start of a year, usually every two years. They previously offered two year commitments, and (assuming it will still be the same) these 'rolled over' into another two-year contract if everything was going smoothly with you. Looking at other forums and threads on this site, there's quite a high turnover, as cops seem to go expecting the proverbial red carpet, and get upset when they find the reality of a somewhat indifferent attitude towards them.

There's been various talk over time of a work limit of 7 years, but it would seem (after some research) that this can also be rolled over too... That would explain why there's a number of British gaffers that seem to have settled into place over there. The employers are responsible for the work permits, so ultimately it's their decision whether or not they renew it. Obviously this is all advice from the internet, so take it with a pinch of salt, but that's what I've read and it seems good... in theory!

EDIT: It's also worth noting that 95% of forces WON'T have you back, because a) you'll have to resign as they don't seem to do proper career breaks any more, and b) you won't pass any vetting tests as you'll have been out of the country for 3+ years, which (as far as I'm aware) means you have to wait 6 months until you can be vetted... I've read some horror stories about cops that have returned to the UK, had to re-join from scratch, and then failed the vetting. After waiting 6 months, they applied again, only to be mucked about because of some "outstanding" complaint with the RCIPS!

Source: http://www.policeoracle.com/forum/in...nd-re-joining/

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That is for a reason. BE does not want people joining purely to 'spam' other users with unwanted private messages. We actually like people to contribute to the site and hold discussions into which all members can join.

While we appreciate that some details are best exchanged purely by private message, if everything takes place that way the forum ceases to be a source of useful info and may as well close down. Posters who simply do three posts to get their post count up will find their count will drop and they may not be able to post at all.

Please could all users post constructively and help the forum stay alive! We want the next lot of applicants to be able to read your expereces :)

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Hi, thanks for the input! I completely understand your explanation, however (speaking for myself) the majority of the threads I'm interested in (certainly at the moment) are all circa 2010/2011. Part and parcel of the requirement of this particular thread is obtaining information which, due to the sensitive nature of the job we're discussing, some people may not be comfortable sharing on a public forum, because the matter will inevitably be archived by Google and thus become available for all and sundry to see forevermore. It doesn't look as though you've looked at this in context.

Taking your explanation on board, I think it's a little paranoid to suggest that, without your input, EVERYTHING will end up as back-and-forth PM's. I appreciate fully the requirement to have a fully functioning board, and the information and assistance that can be obtained from somewhere like this is pure gold, however... As I said to somebody on a PM, I normally avoid forums for EXACTLY this sort of reason. A new thread starts, and within a couple of posts, there's a moderator giving a gentle reminder to "post constructively". Everybody IS posting constructively! However, having seen some of the ways previous threads have ended up, I understand why you're so keen on the warning, although personally, it now feels a little like we're children being chastised.

I hope that's not out of order :confused:

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When you are more familiat with BE you will realise it is actually very rare for a moderator to jump in on a thread- we really do try to stay in the background. But as you have seen, other threads in this area of the forum have quickly gone pear-shaped - I am merely trying to avoid that happening again, I'm sure you've seen also that the last time the RCIPS was discussed a lot on here it got rather heated. At that time we had some nasty issues behind the scenes involving a couple of those posting on the subject - hence my wanting to keep half an eye out in case those posters return.
Certainly not chastising you!

On a personal note I actually enjoy delving into the threads in e poice area - many years as a 'civvy' back in the UK has left me with an interest in seeing how policing varies across the world!
Good luck to those of you looking to make the move!

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*adjusts sunglasses and trooper hat*

Well ma'am, if you run a background check against my licence and registration, you'll see I'm a clean citizen with nothing to hide! :p

But seriously, that's clarified things, appreciate it! :thumbup:

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I am applying to join RCIPS. Having read threads on here over the past few years about the RCIPS, I am not interested about the organisations bad points or anyone that wants to moan about them (every Police Service has management issues etc). I would be grateful if anyone actually knows anything about the current recruitment campaign please; What is the length of service an experienced Officer will be initially hired for ? Is Cayman criminal law similar to ours ? Please only reply if you actually know, I really don't want speculative answers or personal opinions. Sorry to be blunt, but I am ready to send my application and I am serious about joining them. Many thanks in advance.

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If you're that serious, you'd have read the recruitment pages on the CI government website properly, which would have given you the answer you want. Or better yet, why don't you contact them and ask them directly? If you're not interested in "speculative answers" or "personal opinions", one might politely suggest posting your rudely worded enquiry on a forum thread filled with potential applicants perhaps isn't the place for you.

:blink:

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@ metalredstar - the advert states must be able to make an initial commitment of 3 years. Doesn't state what they INTEND to hire you for which is something i would like to know. I interpret this as two different things. I have read the government website, because that's where the application link is, so thanks for your help with that. Oh, yes i did email them a week ago with my questions, got no reply,hence posting my questions on here so again thanks for pointing out the obvious. Also, don't take the content of posts on here personally, as you rightly point out it is an open forum, which means people are entitled to ask things and seek answers. I apologised for my bluntness, if you are a person to interpret my post in that way. I mean no offence, i would just like factual answers is all.

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Hi Stark,

I emailed them last week and have yet to get a reply.

I believe it's for a maximum of 7 years but need this confirmed.

I think I will hold out for Canada or Australia, as if accepted to RCIPS there are too many factors and I don't want to be unemployed after 7 years service.

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Jim2001 many thanks for the info. If you do get a reply from them,would you mind keeping me updated? Thanks

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No probs mate

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Hi all

If selected the contracts are for three years.

They used to be for two but this has changed.

At the moment government workers are exempt from rollover which is the seven year status people are mentioning. This has since changed to nine years but you can claim PR after seven.

Hope this helps :)

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ESTM thanks for the info. 3 years? This is something to think about, I'm guessing that the likelihood of having a further 3 year contract after this us down to government budgets, the need to retain you and your performance. This is a big gamble, i may reconsider applying.....such a shame if RCIPS were to offer permanent jobs they wouldn't have to keep on hiring every few years.

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Hi Stark

I guess it boils down to what you've got going on in the UK?

A lot of government roles are contracted but some people end up staying for years and then even claim PR.

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Hi ESTM,

I've been thinking about this and i will apply in any case. I have no attachments here in the UK the only thing is that I have a job in the police until i'm 60 (all being well). It is a gamble, because 3 years isn't a lot and I won't have a job to come back to if RCIPS don't renew a contract after 3 years (assuming i do get a job offer of course). So lot's of thinking to do, and the info from here is giving me things to consider as well.

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Hi mate

Yeh its alot to consider and only you can really make the decision, all i would say is it was the best thing i ever did, i love it and its the best job in the world.

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I don't doubt you, it would probably be the best thing I will have done too. I'm going to apply....It's a gamble....but i think worth it

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What do you love about it? Are you still out there and if so how long have you been serving with them?

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Hi,
New to this forum, so hello! I've been thinking about going for this every couple of years when the vacancy pops up and decided that now is better than never!

I'm a young single guy with 9 years experience with a force near to London and basically fed up! I'm on the ARV's and full advanced driving etc etc.

I was wondering if anyone is able to shed some light on the firearms positions available.

I complied a list of questions, hopefully someone might be able to answer to give me a better idea of the job role.
Is the firearms position full time? (or as in some UK forces where they have their traffic arm up in times of need).
Are the tactics similar to the UK?
What does the day to day job entail? (i.e training / F/a warrants or "assisting division" as we call it)

I'm also very keen to hear about other aspects of the job / life in general including cost of living, broadband, social aspects with colleagues.

Any PM's would be greatly received (as from reading there maybe some reluctance to post here).

Would also happily accept phone calls / skype from anyone so I can be better informed when making this jump.....

(also my force still allow career breaks up to 5 years, does anybody see this as a problem or is it unlikely they would allow it)?


Thanking you greatly!

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My force allows career breaks of up to 5 years, however looking at the regulations it states you cant undertake full time education or activities for which you are paid, so think I would have to resign from my force !!

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Hi folks, application is away. Has anyone heard anything back? Probably wont hear until after closing date

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My application is going in next couple of days...

How many of us applying? We should set up a private email group. Feel free to PM me and I get a group going.

Cheers

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I think with "modern" policing (bureaucratic shambles of a system that it is) it's the same anywhere, nowadays. You either take the leap of faith and resign, or keep plodding on. Personally, I know what my decision will be! Just waiting for the clearance certificate to come back, and then my application is going in! If I can't get an opportunity like this with the help of my home force, then sorry boys and girls, you're on your own from now on! :D

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As a quick aside, what did everyone else do with regards to disciplinary history? I don't have one, but HR won't give me anything to confirm... They said they would only give the "official" written confirmation to a prospective employer when asking for a reference. I found that a bit peculiar, but understandable, I suppose. I just hope it isn't their own, internal way of making it difficult for people to move elsewhere... Was anyone else in the same boat?

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Ive just sent over an email to my HR as Im currently on a career break and ive told them why I need it. If they refuse I'll just call Fed rep and get them to sort it out.

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You must have a pretty useful Federation... Ours are the worst! Just getting someone to respond to an e-mail or actually call you back is almost impossible. Let me know how you get on :)

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Anyone got any info from a current RCIPS serving officer about way of life / cost of living etc?

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powersmurf Ive sent you a message (or rather I will when I exceed 3 posts!)

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taketheplunge:- im not a serving officer but was also looking at moving, I have looked at the cost of houses and cheapest I have seen is $1500ci plus bills to rent for a 3 bed, I have also looked into schooling which looks like I would have to pay for that due to having two kids...so looking quite expensive atm :(

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What sort of area is that in? I'm guessing that's probably not a too good area if its the cheapest youve found?

Being single I'd only need an apartment and due to amount of burglaries was thinking somewhere in a block which is gated / guarded, no idea of cost yet though!