Where to live in Subic to avoid the sleazy areas
 

My husband has been offered a job in the Subic area, my only concern is the info I have read about the way the phillipine girls are, desperate to bag a western man for his money! Really don't fancy having to be out and about and have my husband targeted and propositioned every where we go. I would like an area that is as far away from this kind of behaviour as possible as I find it totally disrespectful to go on like this in front of a mans wife ! are there any areas that are in a quiet area with other expat couples and families? Not come across any other british woman who has posted her experiences of living there with her husband so would be by interested to hear from anyone already living there and if its as bad as I have read! really want to come live there as apart from this it seems a really nice place.

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Don't always believe what you read. Of course your husband will be propositioned if he is in a girly bar of which there are a lot in Barrio Baretto. Stay on what used to be the base there are reasonable rentals there. The heyday of Olongapo City when it was the world's largets brothel are long gone.

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You are grouping all Filipino girls/woman with the bar girls. There are many others that also want a western husband but if they know he is married they may not even say hello, they do have morals . The bar girls mostly same story boyfriend in the province made them pregnant then he has gone, so baby with mum etc and now she has to support. Not always true. So hows it go in the bar hello daddy/hony ko how old are you [ i,m 120 ] oh your still young , where you from [ London ] oh its that in LA . Do not worry too much just enjoy

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Probably best to not let your hubby out of the house if you are so insecure in your relationship, and if you have such a negative view of Filipinas without (perhaps) even having visited the country, then I suggest you both stay in the UK.
I'd sooner have a relationship with a Filipina than the usual heavy-drinking, bed-hopping slapper that is so prevalent these days in Britain, so yes, maybe Western women DO need to worry, and not just in bar areas...unless they're looking for work. :)

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Frankly, no need for that - she's asking a relevant question!

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She got a relevant answer...as I've lived as an expat in Subic and other parts of the Phils for over 23 years, and I'm British.

Do you have anything constructive to add ? :)

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Where do you read such "Facts"?? You are tarring every filipino female with the same brush, I could say all english women are bed hopping, violent alcoholics, which is my experience, but as you know, this is actually a minority. You really are just as likely to find someone in the UK as in Phils, who will turn their eyes to your hubby.
As was said above, if you're that distrusting then maybe you should remain in the UK and spend time building a trusting relationship, rather than travel halfway around the world and live in a world of jealousy.
Just my honest opinion, good luck:thumbsup:

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Well ok she is allowed to ask but better ways to phrase it. Let me tell you a story that goes back now over 20 years, in a friends house with his wife and her friends , i said i,m now going to The Philippines and 1 of his wife's friends said with out hesitation oh they are so Subservient . I think at that time they only had 1 woman President they were of course to have a 2nd and the lady from ilio ilio and so on . How wrong and how insulting ..........yes she was no picture

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:rofl: she never did get the question answered the replies she got made me smile.No further postings by her yet maybe job offer is off the agenda?

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It's a shame I havnt yet had a reply from a female british expat living there with her family , obviously expat men replying are going to sing the praises of the phillipine women ! If I were an ageing guy looking to up my chances and bag a younger girl who treats me like a king for financial gain then I suppose I would head off to either phillipines or Thailand ! from a females point if view I don't understand how you can be with someone when you know it's more of a business transaction and not based on love . Surely you would want a partner to love and want you based on your personality and physical attraction, not on your bank balance or nationality ? Being with someone who only wants the benefits of your money must also make you very insecure as there will always be someone else with more money than you . Real love can never never be bought , it's a very shallow existence .

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Very true, money can't buy you happiness, I'll take the money:D

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You must have met some very interesting ladies :D :lol: :lol:

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Wow i think you have more problems than the filippinas . My wife is so far away from a 20 year old, 1 of her favorite singers is Matt Monroe , she can tell me almost the whole history of The Philippines . So in The UK etc women are also not looking for a man to take care of them and the children. You have the problem, not me

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Well i think this is bullshit unless you have friends in the British Consulate and a few other wealthy expats you wont find so many wives other than filippinas. If your real then clearly you cant trust your husband and you do sound like a real bitch which is why so many of us has decided to call this home

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No, the majority of UK women have good jobs and careers that enable them to be quite independant if they wanted to be . They contribute to the household financial and help towards paying the bills, mortgages etc. UK women can earn as much if not more in some cases than men . Have you not heard of house husbands who look after the children whilst their wives go to work ? all the UK women I know certainly didnt or don't meet a guy and immediately think have they got enough money to look after me and any potential children !!!
The relationship is based on physical attraction, personality and love , I would never expect a man to have to keep me , I'm quite capable of doing that myself , so , no I guess I don't have a problem .

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I understand that a lot of men are intimidated by a successful , driven , beautiful career woman , so it easier to go for a certain culture of women who need to treat you like a king and stroke your ego, but a lot of the time it's for the financial need to support themselves and their extended families. Am not saying at all that this is your relationship, but I know enough of what happens in a lot of Asian countries and why there is a genuine necessity for these girls to bag a uk man with money . I have a family member who is living with a Thai girl whom got pregnant and he now supports her and her mother, sisters etc . he has no trust in her as he knows that she would up and leave him for the next expat with a bigger pay cheque.

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Ok but you do have a problem in The Philippines and yes i did have a few lady friends in The UK that would pay their own way and i,ve had a wife that did try hard but i helped along the way so what. Ah you know my woman now is not a child loves me loves me not i don't care , she takes care of me and i try to take care of her. They are not all bar sluts............Trust your Husband or dont let him come here

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Not sure where my last post went [ polly ] but i have had woman friends in the UK that paid their own way also my wife with 2 children whose father was a waster, hey we cant all live in middle England so what i helped , it was my wife after all. So now at an older age i got a woman in her 40,s and our 8 year old boy and that's all i pay for. So if you are for real why cant you trust your husband. Why worry

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How often have you visited the Philippines?

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Try Antartica!
Seriously - it is quite obvious that you have insecurity issues and are one of these people that like to label people with generalised statements - redheads are fiery, blondes are dumb, etc. It is disturbing that a seemingly educated person like yourself genuinely believes that a filipina would over ride their ingrained virtues to bag a man with money.

If we are talking about generalisations - and that is what you are doing - that women are only interested in a man's money - it happens all over the world and not just Asia as you are suggesting. If we get back to basics we can argue that a woman, any woman, will choose a man as a life partner who can care for her and nurture her and provide a stable base for any off springs. When choosing a mate the financial stability of the male is one of many attributes that a woman will look for.

Although my sister in law is a nice lady there is no way that she would have married my brother if he had been a taxi driver for example, and there is no way that my ex wife would have married me if I had been a shelf stacker at Tescos. Both ladies in question are British and both my brother and my jobs with the respective salaries were important to them.

It is obvious that you know very little about Asia and in particular the Filipino culture and I find your original assessment quite offensive - to label filipino women the way you have. To suggest that Filipino women will target and proposition your husband wherever you go is naive and insulting.

As you have a significant hang up about this - my advice is don't come.

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I think your "understanding" is misplaced, most educated men I know have a strong preference towards "successful , driven , beautiful career women" as intelligence is a huge attraction to a man, just as confidence in a man attracts a woman.

Maybe you should re-read the replies to your initial posting and rethink both your relationship and whether you should move away from the security you imagine is solely available in your home country.

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Even Nigella Lawson did not re marry beneath her station so beautiful career woman, yes not so many on the local council estate. What does your Husband think about his career move or don't the poor fella have a say in it

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:lol:

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Im 39 (hopefully not ageing that much) been over here for over 10 years now, happily married, so I think your comments about only being over here if youre ageing and want to give filipinas all your money is misled. Sure Filipinas will look for western men for a secure future if the chance arises but they are also respectful and if they see you with your wife or you tell them youre married & arent interested, many are envious and respect that......it is what they struggle to get from filipino men so who can blame them. Now if youre husband is likely to go to the bars, of course they are going to be all over him as thats what them places are there for, like it or not its a part of society. But as for your point of a place to stay, if you look for a place around the old airbase, there are many expats from all over the world living in the areas, the rental prices are a little steeper but if thats what youre looking for, its a really nice area, you should have a car if you live in the freeport zone though.:D

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A nice honest post but i think The Lady has already made up her mind and is not for turning..... don't know why but my last sentence looks familiar

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:amen: to that mate!

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We (male westerners) are not all after a bit of young flesh, we are not all "dirty old men".
I am married to a very intelligent successful wonderful pinay that has a great career, she is only slightly younger than me 18 months) she is or they have different values from western women, more family focused with a need to please.
Now I compare this with the attitude of western women (not saying them all) and its a no contest.
I am loved and treated like a king, I in return treat her like a queen and love her like I have never loved before. Now I could go out to the bar areas and she would not stop me, what you are missing in your relationship is the trust . That's why she need not worry, may be the cracks are already showing in your relationship???

Tony

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It's clear you don't trust your husband. Jealousy towards younger prettier women is a terrible thing and will eat away at a relationship. If your husband loves you he won't stray. Surprisingly enough, it is possible for a man to say "No". If you doubt he loves you enough, and you clearly do, it might be better to avoid areas with young pretty women in the Philippines and everywhere else in the world, including your current home.

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I don't have a jealousy issue at all, I am a very well established model /agent with a successful ten year plus career and a wnderful trusting long marriage.I also do know though that looks are certainly not everything , ones personality is a far more endearing asset, something that the old ugly western men with young pretty goldiggers should maybe think about!! My only issue is having to be disrespected by other women when I am out with my husband in a blatant manner. I have a fantastic long and happy marriage of over 20 plus years ! I don't suppose the majority of the people whom have commented to my post have achieved the same ? Divorcees trying to relive there youth with a younger model the same age as there grandchildren no doubt ! Least I know my husband is committed to me out of love and respect .where will your relationships be in 20 years time ???????.

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Unrelated, but a useful thing to remember if you are relocating to Subic is that you needn't go through the stress of using the international terminal at Manila airport to travel abroad.

By far the easiest way to travel long haul is to use Clark (the former American air force base) to hop over to Hong Kong and then go long haul from there.

Whilst the domestic terminal at Manila airport is great, the international terminal is a stress generator.

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Don't go if it will make you unhappy.

I was talking to my Filipina wife (of 22 years) about this, and she agreed with me.
She also didn't like the way you were demeaning and stereotyping Filipinas and their motivation for marrying foreigners, but having lived in the West for 21 years now, has of course become accustomed to this ignorant and racist viewpoint. My wife also is quite able to hold her own in our partnership, now that she has, with my encouragement, a British degree and a very good job...so not financially dependent upon me in any way.

Similarly, with help and guidance of my wife and myself, my Filipina stepdaughter (whom I've raised since she was a toddler) also has a 1st class Honours degree from a top English university and has an excellent job in New York.

No doubt you and your ilk seeing these ladies out and about with me, would assume them to be gold-digging sluts who have been lucky enough to find an ugly old foreigner to faciliate the achievment of their ambitions.

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Wow what with you being a beautiful career woman. well in 20 years many of us will be long gone , what about you will you still be angry...........my wife is 43 but i,m not the old fart and young tart......... yes little lady i see that all the time......My wife hates them ,so what to do, If ever a slut talks to your husband just bark my you already frighten me and trust me i don't want sex with your husband

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Ok little lady my wife also agrees you have got to be in one bad place for sluts to disrespect you. You do not have to worry here as i said just bark and they are all gone even the men,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes even the men

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If you are real just enjoy your time here take care of your man do not worry so much. He old farts young tarts i laugh you wont change it

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in 20 years she will be in benidorm seking don miguelo aged 20 along with the other feisty grannies we never want to hear about.


Married two kids and loving it, hey that is not meant to happen lol and my pinay wife is stunning model material but too shy to be anything other than the attractive Nurse that she is

Just as well I never believe in stereotypes.

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Now there's an interesting idea. I'll remember that one :lol:

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some just do not need any encouragement:thumbsup:

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maybe now got her husband a job in south america what and still asking the same questions,,,,,,,,,,,,i,m sure not poor fella don't matter where he works in the world...there are sluts..............not in the UK of course