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Gazza-d Jun 17th 2021 10:55 am

Re: Oddities in the Philippines
 

Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13018828)
I think she rises early anyway and enjoys the early morning ambiance outside. It's cool and you're in a select group of people out at that time.
She feels good as she has got to fifth in the line. I wouldn't go so far as saying they enjoy lining up here but from my observations I don't think they see it as such a pain as we do.

In the west we lead busy lives so queuing in line is a disruption, here it passes the time of day as they actually talk to each other in the line.

Stokkevn Jun 17th 2021 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Philosophical 11 (Post 13018585)
Not sure where to put this....Oddities or Humorous episodes.

I have a very good friend who was telling me that she had to pay her electricity bill today. Remembering my time before, I told her I can remember having to queue (stand in line) for about half an hour in the blazing sun to pay my bill. She said it was no problem. She gets there early. The place opens at 8.00 and she is there at 7.15. She gets a ticket that she is number 5 in the queue. She is very pleased about that. gets served at 8.25. Now....she had to get up at 5.30 to get the jeepney into town. Got home after waiting for said jeepney at 12.25. When I mentioned that in the UK we do it on line and takes a few minutes.....I sensed that I could have been talking black magic and witchcraft to her.

I never really queue when paying my electric bill. I just take my dog with me who is quite a good crotch sniffer and am always waved through the queue quite quickly one place at a time until I reach the front.

mikek1 Jun 17th 2021 6:11 pm

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I do not have to queue, I Go straight to the managers office. We have on grid solar power system so we export elecric to the grid. The electric company does not have the software program to ajust the bills so it is done manually. It takes about another month for the local office to get the bill so we are always a month behind.

mikek1 Jun 17th 2021 6:22 pm

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Whilst on the subject of elecric supplies I have been listening to the Philippine News and by all account it is informing that there could be many more brown outs ( Luzon) due to high useage and the generating system unable to produce a sufficient supply. The odd brown out is livable but continuous disruptiion could be a real headache. When there is a brown out the biggest inconvienience to us is no internet and no water pressure due to the electric pump being unable to work. The brown outs we suffer are always in the daytime, because we do not use aircon during the day its not a problem, however if the brown outs occurred at night we would struggle to sleep as we use aircon at night.

Stokkevn Jun 17th 2021 7:37 pm

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Originally Posted by mikek1 (Post 13018936)
Whilst on the subject of elecric supplies I have been listening to the Philippine News and by all account it is informing that there could be many more brown outs ( Luzon) due to high useage and the generating system unable to produce a sufficient supply. The odd brown out is livable but continuous disruptiion could be a real headache. When there is a brown out the biggest inconvienience to us is no internet and no water pressure due to the electric pump being unable to work. The brown outs we suffer are always in the daytime, because we do not use aircon during the day its not a problem, however if the brown outs occurred at night we would struggle to sleep as we use aircon at night.

We have had constant brownouts for the last 12 years. For things like a few lights, WiFi, PC or TV etc get an inverter and run it off the car battery or a spare car battery and a trickle charge solar cell, normally gives about 6 hours use, or if it going to be a long one just restart the car every 3 hours. It even runs my water booster pump for a short period.

Stokkevn Aug 18th 2021 1:03 am

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I have just bought a bottle of citric drink. It is a slightly cloudy clear liquid named Pocari Sweat. Not exactly an inviting name.

Gazza-d Aug 18th 2021 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Stokkevn (Post 13041889)
I have just bought a bottle of citric drink. It is a slightly cloudy clear liquid named Pocari Sweat. Not exactly an inviting name.

It's the go to after a bout of the runs.
There's a sports shoe shop in the vista mall Balanga called athletes foot.

SushiFan Aug 18th 2021 8:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Stokkevn (Post 13041889)
I have just bought a bottle of citric drink. It is a slightly cloudy clear liquid named Pocari Sweat. Not exactly an inviting name.

It is originally from Japan, hence the somewhat awkward name. It is an iso-tonic drink, meaning that it is intended to replenish salt, minerals and such after sweating. However, as with all soft drinks, has a lot of sugar been added.

Stokkevn Aug 24th 2021 9:40 pm

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Not so much an oddity here but would be elsewhere in the world

Contractor for DPWH damaged a National Grid submarine power cable - in the real world the contractor would have to pay for the repair, but not here. Here to cover the cost of the damage the electric companies will be increasing the customer power costs by upto 15% until December when they say the repair, that would normally take less than 2 days to be completed, will be finished.

A couple of weeks ago Panay Water came out with a brilliant statement that 'Heavy rains have caused water shortage'. They then followed that up a while later blaming the customers for the cloudy water coming out of their taps.

The problem here is that no one questions it.

Feidlimid Aug 25th 2021 12:09 am

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Originally Posted by Stokkevn (Post 13044209)
Not so much an oddity here but would be elsewhere in the world. ... The problem here is that no one questions it.

We noticed an anomaly here with our electricity bill many years ago. Upon enquiring, we were informed that the additional amount was to cover the cost of electricity stolen from the local grid. So, rather than the company (or shareholders) having to forfeit the loss, they just deduct it from the honest households that do pay. As you say, no one here bothers to question it.


Stokkevn Oct 10th 2021 12:02 am

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I can't understand why they do it. Friends 20+ yo kids went for their covid injections ( Pfizer ), after their injection they had to read a DOH list of do's and don't's, 1st line was do not eat prawns, lobster or other shellfish after vaccination, a quick check on Pfizer web site identified avoid excessive alcohol and smoking after vaccination, no other dietary restrictions, quick check on a few national health systems had the same advise. Why do they make up such stupid lies here?

Bealinehx Oct 10th 2021 1:06 am

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Just like the wearing of face shields. The only place in the world. Is it effective?

Stokkevn Oct 10th 2021 1:49 am

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13060353)
Just like the wearing of face shields. The only place in the world. Is it effective?

Yes the Philippines is "The only Country in the World". That denies vaccinations to people with high blood pressure, in the rest of the world they are shoved to the front of the queue. Requires face shields for the general public ( supposedly less than 1% effective and even less when worn on top of head ). Requires plastic shields between motorbike rider & pillion, which according to the law could only be husband and wife, never found the design for the one they must have between them in bed at night though. But despite all these extra requirements they have come bottom in a world ranking on recovery post covid ranking.

spouse of scouse Oct 10th 2021 2:13 am

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You have to wonder why. It's not as if the Philippines are lacking people with enough expertise to make sound, science-based decisions, so why the rogue statements like 'no shellfish' and the silly policies such as the windshield? It just doesn't make sense.

Stokkevn Oct 10th 2021 2:47 am

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 13060360)
You have to wonder why. It's not as if the Philippines are lacking people with enough expertise to make sound, science-based decisions, so why the rogue statements like 'no shellfish' and the silly policies such as the windshield? It just doesn't make sense.

It must only be something to do with money, the motorbike windshields were fabricated by a company with family links to a politician, face shields have been linked to 'my BFF' of the president and I can only assume that someone in the DOH owns a chicken or pork farm looking for increased sales due to restrictions on seafood consumption.

I would dispute your statement that they have sufficient science based expertise here after reviewing a friend's son's science module where the answers given in the back by the department of education were 52% wrong.

spouse of scouse Oct 10th 2021 3:32 am

Re: Oddities in the Philippines
 

Originally Posted by Stokkevn (Post 13060366)
It must only be something to do with money, the motorbike windshields were fabricated by a company with family links to a politician, face shields have been linked to 'my BFF' of the president and I can only assume that someone in the DOH owns a chicken or pork farm looking for increased sales due to restrictions on seafood consumption.

I would dispute your statement that they have sufficient science based expertise here after reviewing a friend's son's science module where the answers given in the back by the department of education were 52% wrong.

Ah, good old fashioned corruption. It's all over the world isn't it, the only difference is the lengths taken to hide it (or not!).

That's a worry about the DOE giving incorrect answers to test questions.

Raffin Oct 10th 2021 11:18 am

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I've been looking at a year 11 Maths text book recently. So far all answers have been correct, but back in my day only half the problems had answers given. In this book they are all given, only they are a few pages after the end of the section and they are upside down!

Raffin Oct 10th 2021 12:45 pm

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Why does the Philippines have quite a number of silly policies? Saw another one locally here recently when they sprayed the smaller roads against covid. Like the face shield as you don't hear of it being done in other countries and they even did it on a day when it was clear they would soon be rained heavily on, which they were.
I think silly policies are endemic to developing countries, whereas in the developed world they can have them but they usually don't persist.
In the face shield example they went from something you should use in crowded hospitals and other public spaces to public transport and much less crowded indoor and open areas. Even to builders outside. Put through an IATF meeting last year without much thought when they were looking desperately to restrict transmission. Maybe some members had links to importing companies, yes.
At present the policy on wear is supposedly being discussed in government but it's a few weeks now since the President's latest announcement. Last year he said you only needed them in hospital, then rapidly changed his mind. Like those supermarket ads in the UK "Every little bit helps", he said even if it adds a little extra protection it is worth while! He is not a deep thinker and his attention is elsewhere as he ends his 6 years. This time a representative wrote to him making the argument of cost to give him a get out and save his face. They're not expensive. So once the chief executive here gets involved science, or the lack of it, doesn't count.
As he has been defending a company recently about face shield purchases I think you won't hear much more about it. The face shield rule requirement will persist into next year, though maybe not enforced so strictly. Then a new President will make an announcement.

mikemike Oct 10th 2021 12:53 pm

Re: Oddities in the Philippines
 

Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13060522)
Why does the Philippines have quite a number of silly policies? Saw another one locally here recently when they sprayed the smaller roads against covid. Like the face shield as you don't hear of it being done in other countries and they even did it on a day when it was clear they would soon be rained heavily on, which they were.
I think silly policies are endemic to developing countries, whereas in the developed world they can have them but they usually don't persist.
In the face shield example they went from something you should use in crowded hospitals and other public spaces to public transport and much less crowded indoor and open areas. Even to builders outside. Put through an IATF meeting last year without much thought when they were looking desperately to restrict transmission. Maybe some members had links to importing companies, yes.
At present the policy on wear is supposedly being discussed in government but it's a few weeks now since the President's latest announcement. Last year he said you only needed them in hospital, then rapidly changed his mind. Like those supermarket ads in the UK "Every little bit helps", he said even if it adds a little extra protection it is worth while! He is not a deep thinker and his attention is elsewhere as he ends his 6 years. This time a representative wrote to him making the argument of cost to give him a get out and save his face. They're not expensive. So once the chief executive here gets involved science, or the lack of it, doesn't count.
As he has been defending a company recently about face shield purchases I think you won't hear much more about it. The face shield rule requirement will persist into next year, though maybe not enforced so strictly. Then a new President will make an announcement.

I think you will find the answers to all, or most of the above is the value of the ''back handers'' expect more and more of the same as we get closer to the elections, be they national or local, even at micro level.

Stokkevn Oct 15th 2021 12:02 am

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Originally Posted by Feidlimid (Post 13044244)
We noticed an anomaly here with our electricity bill many years ago. Upon enquiring, we were informed that the additional amount was to cover the cost of electricity stolen from the local grid. So, rather than the company (or shareholders) having to forfeit the loss, they just deduct it from the honest households that do pay. As you say, no one here bothers to question it.

It just absolves the company for having to do anything to resolve the problems, any loss due to incompetence, inactivity, lack of maintenance or corruption etc. is just passed onto the customer, so why would they bother to fix anything.

Stokkevn Nov 13th 2021 11:43 pm

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PAGASA seems to have a warped outlook on how the months of the year work. Looking for the coldest time of year in Philippines, PAGASA state "Based on the average of all weather stations in the Philippines, excluding Baguio, the mean annual temperature is 26.6o C. The coolest months fall in January with a mean temperature of 25.5oC" I was just wondering how many months are there in January here.

freebie Nov 15th 2021 8:15 pm

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So yesterday El Presidente says face shields no longer required. Widely reported last night in Daily Inquirer, PhilStar CNN , Manila Times etc.. so I enter SM Makati this morning without shield happy as life is now more normal.
Two guards tell me to put my shield on and basically physically tried to stop me entering. I asked if they were aware of the Presidents ruling and that their refusal to let me in was totally wrong. The older security fellow told me " we are still awaiting official orders from the boss."..
I suggested they read the news ( showed them a screenshot of President saying Face shields no longer required )" and if their boss had a problem, he should contact Malacanyang
They went to delay someone else with no shield, at which point I walked in to continue my business. Yet they were harassing every Filipino and making them wear their shields... sometimes Filipinos are extremely ( too ) passive when confronted by a person in uniform.

Bealinehx Nov 15th 2021 8:18 pm

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Isn't that El Presidente has instilled in the population for the last five and a half years?

Raffin Nov 15th 2021 9:18 pm

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He deliberately put the new face shield policy out late evening yesterday to miss the evening news so it was bound to be poorly applied. His last few months will be spent on campaigning so we will see him taking even longer on decision making.

Stokkevn Nov 15th 2021 9:53 pm

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Originally Posted by freebie (Post 13072258)
So yesterday El Presidente says face shields no longer required. Widely reported last night in Daily Inquirer, PhilStar CNN , Manila Times etc.. so I enter SM Makati this morning without shield happy as life is now more normal.
Two guards tell me to put my shield on and basically physically tried to stop me entering. I asked if they were aware of the Presidents ruling and that their refusal to let me in was totally wrong. The older security fellow told me " we are still awaiting official orders from the boss."..
I suggested they read the news ( showed them a screenshot of President saying Face shields no longer required )" and if their boss had a problem, he should contact Malacanyang
They went to delay someone else with no shield, at which point I walked in to continue my business. Yet they were harassing every Filipino and making them wear their shields... sometimes Filipinos are extremely ( too ) passive when confronted by a person in uniform.

In the presidents directive for no face shields required in areas with alert level 1, 2 & 3 a bit further down the document it says "LGUs shall have the discretion to mandate the use of face shields" , glad that cleared things up.

mikemike Nov 16th 2021 11:49 am

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Originally Posted by Stokkevn (Post 13071454)
PAGASA seems to have a warped outlook on how the months of the year work. Looking for the coldest time of year in Philippines, PAGASA state "Based on the average of all weather stations in the Philippines, excluding Baguio, the mean annual temperature is 26.6o C. The coolest months fall in January with a mean temperature of 25.5oC" I was just wondering how many months are there in January here.

Ah that will be the 13 th month:tape:

Gazza-d Nov 16th 2021 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by mikemike (Post 13072494)
Ah that will be the 13 th month:tape:

Big queues at the atm's yesterday, at least the one's with cash. We worked out that it must be 13th month. Bet it will all be gone before the end of the week.

Philosophical 11 Nov 16th 2021 2:24 pm

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Originally Posted by freebie (Post 13072258)
So yesterday El Presidente says face shields no longer required. Widely reported last night in Daily Inquirer, PhilStar CNN , Manila Times etc.. so I enter SM Makati this morning without shield happy as life is now more normal.
Two guards tell me to put my shield on and basically physically tried to stop me entering. I asked if they were aware of the Presidents ruling and that their refusal to let me in was totally wrong. The older security fellow told me " we are still awaiting official orders from the boss."..
I suggested they read the news ( showed them a screenshot of President saying Face shields no longer required )" and if their boss had a problem, he should contact Malacanyang
They went to delay someone else with no shield, at which point I walked in to continue my business. Yet they were harassing every Filipino and making them wear their shields... sometimes Filipinos are extremely ( too ) passive when confronted by a person in uniform.

I hear what you are saying.... but the guards are only doing their job as instructed. I personally wouldn't bother with that hassle.

freebie Nov 17th 2021 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Philosophical 11 (Post 13072536)
I hear what you are saying.... but the guards are only doing their job as instructed. I personally wouldn't bother with that hassle.

Perhaps where you live you dont and havent had to face Face Shield Nazis......in Makati they are/were everywhere.

Bealinehx Nov 17th 2021 2:54 pm

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Face Shield Nazis are doing their best to reduce the problem of trying to find an environmentally friendly method of disposing of discarded face shields.
This nonsense only prevails in the Land of 7,000 Islands, and a few more if you are inclined to be pedantic.

freebie Nov 17th 2021 3:03 pm

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But wait.. theres a small ray of hope


https://nolisoli.ph/97659/face-shiel..._medium=direct

Philosophical 11 Nov 17th 2021 8:52 pm

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Originally Posted by freebie (Post 13073052)
Perhaps where you live you dont and havent had to face Face Shield Nazis......in Makati they are/were everywhere.

Certainly wouldn't call them Nazis.... but just ordinary people trying to do their job as instructed.

I went to my supermarket the day after I posted and face shields were no longer required. About time too. Almost every one in the store had face shields before but perched on top of their heads. I think the Philippines were just about the only country in the world to come up with this idiotic idea. Same as pillion rider shields.

Bealinehx Nov 17th 2021 9:34 pm

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P11 you are quite right. Someone very high up has made a lot of money from these idiotic scams.

EnglishRed Dec 11th 2021 7:09 pm

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Here's a good oddity you may want to take afvantage of.

We were in Market Place (supermarket) recently getting some essential supplies in for the festive season (wine and spirits!). Looking at the gin they had a one litre bottle of Tanqueray Malacca Gin for Php 1579, there was also 75cl bottle of Tanqeray at php 750. Shelf below there were bags with a bottle of each for Php 1270, ie Php 309 cheaper than a one litre of the Malacca.

When we asked the staff how this works they just said it was a special offer, several bags into the trolley and made sure the price was the same when scanned at the till. Now have enough Gin to keep us going for a fair few months.

Stokkevn Dec 11th 2021 8:18 pm

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You were lucky, I saw a special offer on the crisps that I like that were marked at P120 each or two for P250.

Gazza-d Dec 11th 2021 9:06 pm

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I like to drink calamansi concentrate, diluted obviously, and at the local supermarket it's cheaper to buy multiple 500ml bottles than the bigger 750ml bottles. The other thing to watch is the buy one take one. It's seldom two for the price of one but the take one is often some small item taped to the side.

Raffin Dec 11th 2021 9:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Gazza-d (Post 13080582)
I like to drink calamansi concentrate, diluted obviously, and at the local supermarket it's cheaper to buy multiple 500ml bottles than the bigger 750ml bottles. The other thing to watch is the buy one take one. It's seldom two for the price of one but the take one is often some small item taped to the side.

Slightly off the topic, but I used to put that diluted concentrate, either calamansi or more often dalandan, in a big mug of tea in the morning. But it came to be expensive, scarce and is a bit messy. So now use local honey with juice from lemons....from the market as they are exepensive in the supermarket.

Gazza-d Dec 11th 2021 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13080584)
Slightly off the topic, but I used to put that diluted concentrate, either calamansi or more often dalandan, in a big mug of tea in the morning. But it came to be expensive, scarce and is a bit messy. So now use local honey with juice from lemons....from the market as they are exepensive in the supermarket.

We bought a 1.4 litres bottle of lemon juice from SnR yesterday for 219 pesos. Just add honey but the honey is quite expensive and most honey here is fake honey

Raffin Dec 12th 2021 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by Gazza-d (Post 13080608)
We bought a 1.4 litres bottle of lemon juice from SnR yesterday for 219 pesos. Just add honey but the honey is quite expensive and most honey here is fake honey

Yes, there's some really pricey local and imported honey on sale here. Don't know about that fake honey claim. But SM have one or two cheap brands for cooking use and I find them good for mixing in diluted juice. Not thick and not too sweet.
Yes, you can buy bottles of juice but you can't beat the clean taste you get from the fruit. Slice in a jug and add hot water repeatedly until it loses taste.

PS I find that the cheap honey I am using is actually "honey flavoured syrup". Apart from being cheaper I suppose it makes it flow easily for cooking. Anyway I would guess those concentrates also have syrup. Doesn't worry me.

Bealinehx Dec 12th 2021 10:20 am

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Pure honey so much healthier than sugar. Just look at the overweight middle class under 18's here.


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