Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
#76
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Re: Negative Vibes.
Originally Posted by uk+kiwi
Not sure what area of work you are in, BUT if you are a highly salaried contract IT professional for example in the UK, I am sure I do not need point out that you are unlikely to remain as highly paid in NZ, although if demand is there for your skills in NZ, I am sure you could have a very very nice lifestyle. Good luck.
Redundancy due to "downsizing" "outsourcing" and other terms for…we can't afford to pay you so you will have to go but we will still keep our company cars…is now unfortunately the way of most things and as the industry dwindles here and the manufacturing base is moved to Taiwan, India, China etc the only prospects for many school leavers (who I feel heartily sorry for) is working either working in B&Q warehouse type place, a fast food outlet or a call centre, not the best prospect to start out on. Who on a minimum wage job can get on the property ladder these days when a 2 bed terrace that needs working on, situated in a not so salubrious area is going for £100,000
#77
Re: Negative Vibes.
Originally Posted by Tech21
Got it in one (with the exception of the high salary bit), my field is network support, user support, LAN and WAN and my wife is in IT project management. My job doesn't pay that highly either in the UK or in NZ and my wife can earn far more than I can (again in UK and NZ). We have both been made redundant at one time or another me after 20 years with the same company who were bought by a German company and closed down 3 years to the day of them taking over but it did give me the kick to retrain and do something else that I liked doing and break into computing and go contracting. I paid for all my own training and travelling expenses, I did the first 6 months work for no pay (yes NO PAY at all, not even getting petrol paid for a 40 mile a day round trip) just to get the experience 'cause even with quallies, no job without experience, chicken and egg syndrome.
Redundancy due to "downsizing" "outsourcing" and other terms for…we can't afford to pay you so you will have to go but we will still keep our company cars…is now unfortunately the way of most things and as the industry dwindles here and the manufacturing base is moved to Taiwan, India, China etc the only prospects for many school leavers (who I feel heartily sorry for) is working either working in B&Q warehouse type place, a fast food outlet or a call centre, not the best prospect to start out on. Who on a minimum wage job can get on the property ladder these days when a 2 bed terrace that needs working on, situated in a not so salubrious area is going for £100,000
Redundancy due to "downsizing" "outsourcing" and other terms for…we can't afford to pay you so you will have to go but we will still keep our company cars…is now unfortunately the way of most things and as the industry dwindles here and the manufacturing base is moved to Taiwan, India, China etc the only prospects for many school leavers (who I feel heartily sorry for) is working either working in B&Q warehouse type place, a fast food outlet or a call centre, not the best prospect to start out on. Who on a minimum wage job can get on the property ladder these days when a 2 bed terrace that needs working on, situated in a not so salubrious area is going for £100,000
#78
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Re: Why prople have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Nice one Jon. Could n't agree with you more. We do our biggest moves in life not only for us but our kids and in general to make a better life. Costs are everywehre. If you live in the Uk its expensive no matter how much you earn - you live to your extremes i guess. I know people earning £80,000 per annum but still have a loan for the flashy BMW on their drive! When thinking about costs etc do what i do. Think if i can take my family somewhere where the weather isn't too bad, food is ok and we're doing it together then I'm happy cos the my flamily make my life complete. Priceless indeed does come to mind........or if all ealse fails use mastercard ;>)
#79
Re: Why prople have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by Paresh
Nice one Jon. Could n't agree with you more. We do our biggest moves in life not only for us but our kids and in general to make a better life. Costs are everywehre. If you live in the Uk its expensive no matter how much you earn - you live to your extremes i guess. I know people earning £80,000 per annum but still have a loan for the flashy BMW on their drive! When thinking about costs etc do what i do. Think if i can take my family somewhere where the weather isn't too bad, food is ok and we're doing it together then I'm happy cos the my flamily make my life complete. Priceless indeed does come to mind........or if all ealse fails use mastercard ;>)
INMHO its cos of the kids that you have to make sure you make the right move...after all .... they dont get a choice if you jump they have to jump too
#80
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Re: Negative Vibes.
Originally Posted by kaz Hen
Ha! We are off to watch the All Blacks and Scotland on Nov 25th so I will let you know how much the Scotts love the Kiwi's after that.
KAZ
KAZ
#81
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by Gill and Rob
Just my opinion, but I think kiwis are friendlier than Brits. I came from the NE of the UK, renound for its friendliness and hospitality and have found kiwis to be lovely. I think the transition from UK to NZ is easier than NZ to UK, as everyone speaks to you here, where as stangers are often viewed with suspision in the UK.
Gill
Gill
#82
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Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by bookemjano
Definitely - even the teenagers say hello to you here. I didn't know the names of half the neighbours in the UK, even though I lived in that house for 7 years - been in Rangiora for two weeks and have been invited into the homes of several of the neighbours and had offers of help from them all.
Would agree that Kiwis are both friendly and helpfull. A few weeks before we moved into our home here were invited by the people we were buying from to a party to meet all the neighbours (a cynic might say for them to meet us) and the day we moved in we had one set of neighbours turn up with muffins for morning tea and in the evening another set turned up with fish and chips so we wouldn't have to worry about cooking.
Would this have ever happened in the UK? I think not....
#83
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by Herm
Would agree that Kiwis are both friendly and helpfull. A few weeks before we moved into our home here were invited by the people we were buying from to a party to meet all the neighbours (a cynic might say for them to meet us) and the day we moved in we had one set of neighbours turn up with muffins for morning tea and in the evening another set turned up with fish and chips so we wouldn't have to worry about cooking.
Would this have ever happened in the UK? I think not....
Would this have ever happened in the UK? I think not....
#84
Re: Negative Vibes.
Originally Posted by scottish
Hi Paul, Im too much of a lady to answer that mate.... but they do so na na na na na...
In the 1840 100s of Scottish people emigrated to NZ and were the first to Europeans to populate the Otago area.....they left Scotland due to two mains reasons
1) the Split in the Presbyterian Church
2) To escape the economic depression in the area
So there you have it.
Apparantly shortly after that the world famous purple Tin lager (Super Ts) took a grip on Scotland and no further emigrations happened......until yourselves obviously
#85
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Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
you have too much time on your hands mate haha.
ps... and no thats not the reason. Good answer though.
ps... and no thats not the reason. Good answer though.
#86
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Am I wrong, but are most of the folk here with great neigbours & friends living in areas outside Auckland ?
I never had probs making friends in Brissol, but after 4 years here can count the number of friends I have on one hand, and Íve given up attempting to introduce myself to people because they're not that interested .... maybe it's just me !!
I never had probs making friends in Brissol, but after 4 years here can count the number of friends I have on one hand, and Íve given up attempting to introduce myself to people because they're not that interested .... maybe it's just me !!
#87
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by scottish
you have too much time on your hands mate haha.
ps... and no thats not the reason. Good answer though.
ps... and no thats not the reason. Good answer though.
#88
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by Pompey_Paul
Come on then what is the reason?......PS i do all my research while at work...its not my time i'm burning
#89
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Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
Originally Posted by uk+kiwi
...the Scottish make good lovers? Or is it even more specific?
I reckon it's cause the scotts never beat NZ at rugby and Kiwi's love the scott's skirts.
KAZ
#90
Re: Why people have Negative Concepts about NZ ?
[QUOTE=kaz Hen]Are they!! And are we talking personal experience here!
I've no idea! But I think it was Scottish (?) who said the reason was too rude to mention so I thought it must be sexual. Perhaps not?
I've no idea! But I think it was Scottish (?) who said the reason was too rude to mention so I thought it must be sexual. Perhaps not?